JSngry Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Live recordings, with and without Dolphy on board, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 I remember all the excitement when stereo LPs first became available. But, for a quintet, say, mono will do. Who now cares if the tenor saxophone is on the left and the trumpet is on the right? Big deal. If you were listening to them live, it would be mono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shrdlu said: If you were listening to them live, it would be mono. For all the civilians in the house, this is a joke, don't take it seriously.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted September 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 Any thoughts on this yet? Recieved my copy today but no chance so far to give it a spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 A very relaxed feel to this session. Nice listening, nothing startling. Sound on the disc is quite good, Reeves has done a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaro Vega Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 His rhythmic approach on the head to "Like Sonny" is very different, more staccato, than on previous versions I've heard, or when he quotes at length while on tour with Miles in 1960. The title piece is a variation on "Out of This World" which he played the shit out of on that earlier Impulse album and digs in quickly here. It's interesting to hear him at this stage, with "A Love Supreme" and "Crescent" surrounding it, playing his own material from earlier. Nice long bass intro to "Traneing In," though it sounds like Elvin had to put down a smoke to get into tempo with everyone when it was time for the ensemble to enter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 I didn't pre-order and amazon is showing CD in-stock date as 10/05...is somebody shipping sooner, or are there advance copies out there already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 I had a copy of the CD in my hands at the local HMV yesterday - didn’t buy it. They had the vinyl in stock too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 6 hours ago, JSngry said: I didn't pre-order and amazon is showing CD in-stock date as 10/05...is somebody shipping sooner, or are there advance copies out there already? Weird. I pre-ordered from Amazon and received it yesterday. Guess they sold out of pre-orders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted September 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 My local shop owner told me its the only jazz record he really sells a lot (in a sleepy small town somewhere in The Netherlands). It is quite popular I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Very good to have. Anything by the Quartet at this stage is welcome. There is a lack of production. I suspect that Bob Thiele wasn't involved. There are three takes of "Village Blues". All are equally good and there was no need for another take after the first one. It is too short, and there is no piano solo, but maybe the film guy wanted it that way. The tracks that feature the whole group are much more satisfying. Now, let's have the rest of the unissued Trane from 1962 and 1963. It does exist, because there was a radio broadcast of it about 10 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Middleton Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 OK, I bought it, I downloaded it. I listened to it. I liked it. But wasn't wowed by it. Two Directions at once was much more interesting. It's just that there was only one new track, Blue World. On to the next. Liking the new Nat Birchall tribute to Yusef Lateef, The Storyteller. Most of Birchall's albums have been inspired by Coltrane's spiritual side. So this one is a nice change. If it was a toss-up, I'd get the Birchall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 17 hours ago, Robert Middleton said: OK, I bought it, I downloaded it. I listened to it. I liked it. But wasn't wowed by it. Two Directions at once was much more interesting. It's just that there was only one new track, Blue World. On to the next. Aren't all the tracks new? [Aside from the original soundtrack within the movie, which very few people appear to have heard or even heard of] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Yes, all the tracks are newly issued. Blue World is a variant of Out of This World. It's a relaxed session from the Quartet; I'm enjoying it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Nate Chinen’s review for Pitchfork: John Coltrane’s Blue World Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiRiIII Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Transparent Blue Vinyl is coming: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaro Vega Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Thanks for posting Chinen's review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 This is an interesting article by the Times critic Giovanni Russonello on how he approaches a recording like Blue World. What a Jazz Critic Hears on Coltrane’s ‘New’ Album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Brad said: This is an interesting article by the Times critic Giovanni Russonello on how he approaches a recording like Blue World. What a Jazz Critic Hears on Coltrane’s ‘New’ Album " When my subject is an album from the archive, full books on the performer’s life are usually available, as is a complete discography. For Davis, who died in 1991, the authoritative tome is his autobiography. " This would be the autobiography that was mostly invented by the author and poor transcription? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 I can't understand his attitude. Autobiographies and interviews always must be taken with some grain of salt, memories can fail. I experienced that while researching Pony Poindexter's discography while consulting his memoirs. Some of the dates he remembers are unplausible, some are exact to the day and pass the test. Oh, and discographers can be mistakne, too, unless they get acces to a label's vaults, which rarely is the case, and even then ..... all of the dates for Cal Tjader's live recordings for Verve are one week off. There are reliable concert reviews that tell the correct dates. You always have to double check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 Listened to it this evening. I felt like I felt when I hear The Beatles Christmas Records for the first time, like, yeah, it's those guys all right, being themselves...but although still The Beatles, nor really "Beatles records". And yet, very (and thoroughly) enjoyable precisely because of that. Three things stand out for me (and three there will be, look, numbers!): This was certainly a very casual session. Not a lot of pre-planning (maybe none?), not a lot of budget, obviously, just everybody show up at Rudy's, decide on tunes, get levels, and give the money guy what he needs (shades of Prestige!). So it's a little startling to hear Coltrane so casually throw out some of this really advanced harmonic shit, like, you know, even when he wasn't looking for the mountaintop, this is where his head was at, no turning back, a truly evolved mind in that way. Whoever cleaned the tapes up did a good job, but there's no hiding the fact that, however they started out, they were in pretty rough shape by the time this project got going. Oh well! Elvin on the 2nd take of "Naima" is just stone cold motherfucking NUTS. I've never heard anything like that before, from anybody. I see that this was recorded "at" Rudy's studio, and the legends of Rudy not letting anybody touch his stuff is no doubt a true fact, but...can I be forgiven for thinking that either Rudy was not behind the knows for some/all of this? Or maybe just that everybody knew what kind of a deal it was going in, both time and money were tight, so, you know, just get something down...or maybe it's just that the tapes were old and whoever had them had played them a lot over the years? Now - when do we get an official CD of The Beatles Christmas Records? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) I listened to this film the other night. I say "listened to" because there are no subtitles, and I don't speak French, so I didn't want to spoil the experience, in the event that a version with subtitles becomes available. I just had it on YouTube with the volume up high, while I did things around the house. What is interesting is that Coltrane is used in the first half of the film, and the baroque music is used in the second half. This suggests some sort of a shift in the narrative, but again, I didn't watch the film. When I compile my soundtrack album, I will probably alternate Coltrane and the baroque pieces to create a more varied listening experience. And because "Naima" is used more than once, and because the film is in French, I will also include the stunning vocal version of "Naima" by the Double Six of Paris. Edited October 15, 2019 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Who was the dumbass who thought it would be a good idea to include the control booth chatter before every track? Way to screw up an otherwise decent album. (I already forgave the producer for the bad cover art and lack of Couperin and Vivaldi.) Now I have to load this into Audacity and get rid of the engineer. It should not be the listener's job to finish someone else's album. Edited December 29, 2019 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 You might want to look at it as the soundtrack equivalent of an IKEA product. Sans the meatballs in the in-store restaurant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 37 minutes ago, Daniel A said: You might want to look at it as the soundtrack equivalent of an IKEA product. Sans the meatballs in the in-store restaurant. Nonsense. IKEA is all about style and presentation, and they would have much better taste than to include the mood-busting control room banter. The square celibate who compiled this album could learn a thing or two from IKEA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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