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2019-2020 MLB Hot Stove Thread

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4 minutes ago, Larry Kart said:

 See who won the World Series in 2017 and 2018 or the passenger lists for those two Boeing 737 Maxes than went down. Yes, it's who won a game versus death, but some sort of cheating is the common denominator, no?

Are you sure this comparison is in the very best of taste?

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I'm not even sure it's a relevant comparison, never mind a tasteful one!

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Of  course it's not in good taste. That's part of the reason I made it -- to remind us that cheating is cheating, that sometimes the consequences are very grave, and that the rationalizations for cheating are much the same before and until the chickens come home to roost.

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2 hours ago, JSngry said:

Has it been curtailed? Or is it going to continue as soon as somebody finds a newer, sleeker, less obvious technology that's more seamlessly integrated and doesn't involve something Flintstoney analog-primitive like banging on a freaking trash can?

I’d have to think that, yes, there will be limits on the present uses and that you do it again at your peril but players will look to find something else, as you mentioned. 

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Players, maybe not so much, but organizations, definitely.

If there's any real gut-level enragement about this "scandal", it that it's one more sign of management taking control of the execution of the on-field game. Labor now hired not just to work to the best of their ability, but to work as told, regardless of natural abilities. "Cheating" is a word that trivializes the trend.

That might be a metaphor for life in the 21st Century, or it may not be.

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Beltran is out. Mets looking forward new manager. 

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2 hours ago, ghost of miles said:

You beat me to it.  NY Times article:  Carlos Beltran resigns

Mets just held a conference call. They’re the masters of corporate speak. 

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4 hours ago, T.D. said:

After decades of flagrant and condoned steroid/PED usage, we're surprised that baseball has a culture of Omertà:lol:

Hello.

And of course, the Cardinals are the purest of the pure: https://kmox.radio.com/articles/news/mike-shildt-says-cardinals-knew-others-were-cheating

Oh, but uh....

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jan/30/st-louis-cardinals-hacking-scandal-punishment-houston-astros-mlb

Some call it "cheating", but others call it "espionage". SEXY!!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jun/17/st-louis-cardinals-espionage-claims-us-sports-dark-arts-go-back-100-years

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Ball Four?

JUST four???????

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