JSngry Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 That's "Shine On Harvest Moon". You might have something there.... . This might be that Barbara: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Baxley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 like he recorded in 1992 - whoa lets figure it the fuck out: so theres lots of clapping after the cut- this has to be TV show audio, no? esp w/ the mysterious dialogue side b? what TV shows in bay area had music programs that early? this is way before ralph j gleason jazz casual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez said: BARBARA RITCHIE IS THE SINGERS NAME but thats not on here i got too excited and had to cut it off and post the big dave part for you guys ????????????????????? How do you know her name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 did i cut it off the announcer says it barbara ritichie. very clearly ritichie. ill try n get the whole thing properly transfered up the main chunk of the discis what i posted- im starting to like it more and more, esp after jsngrys discovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) at first i was disapointed it wasnt like i envisoined exactly- but hey- this is how it happned. i w/ how jsngry put it all together, i am liking it and there is a some sololing and i was right in my guess that it'd be the trio---- now whats this tv show! this is going back really far- this is like pre beat movement bay area were talkin about, are we not. Edited December 27, 2019 by chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 I have no way to connect Barbara Ritchie & Barbara Baxley. But searching for "Barbara Ritchie" from a lot of different angles leads nowhere. If you want to, post the audio and stuff from the other side. There might be clues there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 its non sensical dialogue- it makes no sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 Would be nice to hear anyway...you never know...especially if it's off a TV show. One name or place might be all it takes to get the ball rolling. As far as TV shows...early local TV was a trip. They needed programming, and if somebody like Brubeck, who would have then been making a little noise in the area, wanted to come in a play a tune or two, no problem. Apparently Jerry Lester in NYC would have guys on like this, isn't there a story of Bird coming on and jamming "Almost Like Being In Love" over the closing credits, something like that? Just saying - assume nothing about what might or might not be nonsense unless/until you have a solid multi-planar frame of reference from which to so do! Ok, are you sure it's TV and not radio? Either way, I don't know Jimmy Lyons' voice well enough to tell if it's him, but that would be a logical "first guess" as to who the host is, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 i dont know!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted December 28, 2019 Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) I need to hear the whole disc!!!! Barbara Ritchie is correct! She worked at NBC in San Francisco at the time; Dave and Iola Brubeck had remembered her name when asked about the singer's identity after James Harrod had found a test pressing with Brubeck cuts. http://jazzwestcoastresearch.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2012-11-15T16:19:00-08:00&max-results=7 Harrod found evidence that Frances Lynne also sang with the group, but this lacquer prooves that Ritchie did, too! I need to hear this to compare the voices, as there are no other recordings of her, and the few of Lynne are very hard to access. Please get in touch with James Harrod about this! This would be a great discovery for the Tjader discography as well. Tjader did tap dancing as a boy. Edited December 28, 2019 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 28, 2019 Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 Alright, Barbara Ritchie it is! And Jimmy Lyons likely as the host, on KNBC (radio): https://bayarearadio.org/sf-radio-history/kpo On the off chance it was an early TV thing, the SF NBC station was KRON: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRON-TV James Harrod is one serious cat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 SORRY I RUINED THE CAL BOOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 should i take them down and put it up w/ a voice over "Chewy archives" every 20 seconds---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 We can still fit that into the new edition of the Tjader bio during the last proofreading. I will send S. Duncan Reid a link to thi page. Is this a 12" 78 rpm disc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 yes- a soundcraft 12" disc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Barbara Ritchie leaves a little to be desired, maybe. But Brubeck backing her is almost like a parallel universe Monk! That spoken introduction is a faux-erudite reference to autumn, therefore "September Song". It's annoying as fuck, that kind of thing, but Nat Hentoff a few years later does the same type thing only more fluently (which is even more annoying!). Is there anything else on either side of the disc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) 1 diallogue trk and 2 music, both non brubeck releated--- diagalgue trk is about xmas eve not a radio host intro but i dont know what so that makes sense w/ the date onthe other side- lemme post the music part hold on ????????????????????? Edited December 29, 2019 by chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Interesting arrangement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 The voice on the 10" test pressing James Harrod found sounds different - this might be Frances Lynne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 The singer on "Button Up...." sounds a bit more polished than does this Barbara Ritchie, don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 so its definetly brubeck on piano on the singer part then too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 hours ago, JSngry said: The singer on "Button Up...." sounds a bit more polished than does this Barbara Ritchie, don't you think? Yes. 1 hour ago, chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez said: so its definetly brubeck on piano on the singer part then too? I hear some typical Brubeck pianistics of those years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) me too i think!!!!!!!! so its a laquer, not an acetate? or is it a laquer acetate? or? so could the jimmy lyons nbc radio show fit a studio aud in for the applause? or is it a track? (fake applause)-- still radio , or is it TV? no prob the lyons radio show------ but the applause............. Edited December 30, 2019 by chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 im leaning SO much twds jimmy lyons raidio show.........people can clap on radio too oh god what am i doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 I know that Jimmy Lyons was a Disc Jockey. but he might have also had a live show from time to time, in-studio or location. But if this was location, I think he'd be pimpin the club? Or maybe that's not Jimmy Lyons at all? Lyons regular show was on KNBC and was called Discapades. If you could get some other sample of Lyons' voice, a comparison could be made. surely there's plenty out there? 11 hours ago, mikeweil said: I hear some typical Brubeck pianistics of those years. Same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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