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Playing Favorites: Reflections on Jazz of the Later 1940's

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On 04/08/2020 at 4:17 PM, BillF said:

 One word of warning about this guy. Careful when checking him on Google or Wikipedia. You're likely to end up with the British Royal Family! :tdown :tdown :tdown

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29 minutes ago, sidewinder said:

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Late to the party with that one, Sidewinder. I made that quip on 4th August. Running on 33 rpm?

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On 18.9.2020 at 11:24 AM, BillF said:

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20-track compilation of four sessions by Allen, Brew and Stan on Spotify. All prime material!

Sounds treachereously like the Savoy material reissued on the "Brothers and Other Mothers" twofers. :D
(Reissue) Credit to whom credit is due ...

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1 hour ago, Big Beat Steve said:

Sounds treachereously like the Savoy material reissued on the "Brothers and Other Mothers" twofers. :D
(Reissue) Credit to whom credit is due ...

Probably is treacherous, but is wonderful music and is available to ME!! :excited:

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No doubt (and great music indeed) and no reproach meant, but the Brothers and Other Mothers twofer vinyls have been around for ages and therefore have been in circulation fairly widely. ;)

Actually, they are among the chosen few "key" vinyls where I bought a "spare" copy when I came across a pristine set at a giveaway price.

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4 hours ago, BillF said:

Late to the party with that one, Sidewinder. I made that quip on 4th August. Running on 33 rpm?

Not even that - 16rpm. :rolleyes:

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4 minutes ago, sidewinder said:

Not even that - 16rpm. :rolleyes:

You're down there with Slow Drag Pavageau! 

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3 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said:

Sounds treachereously like the Savoy material reissued on the "Brothers and Other Mothers" twofers. :D
(Reissue) Credit to whom credit is due ...

Still got my ‘Brothers and Other Mothers’ Vols 1 and 2 twofers. I think only Vol 1 came out in the UK so must have been a big seller. :rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, sidewinder said:

Still got my ‘Brothers and Other Mothers’ Vols 1 and 2 twofers. I think only Vol 1 came out in the UK so must have been a big seller. :rolleyes:

I remember the album but sadly never owned it.

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Listening to two very different contemporary celebrations of music of that era.

Love 'em both! Even the orch with strings on the Gibbs date! :tup:tup

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On 10/1/2020 at 11:12 AM, BillF said:

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Listening to two very different contemporary celebrations of music of that era.

Love 'em both! Even the orch with strings on the Gibbs date! :tup:tup

Agreed on both. That Gibbs recording is terrific. 

Listened to this one recently. Terrific music.

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On 10/1/2020 at 10:12 AM, BillF said:

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Listening to two very different contemporary celebrations of music of that era.

Love 'em both! Even the orch with strings on the Gibbs date! :tup:tup

I’m not familiar with the Gibbs material but the Lovano one is terrific. It’s been years since I listened to it. 

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8 hours ago, John Tapscott said:

 

Listened to this one recently. Terrific music.

See the source image

:tup:tup

 

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On 30.9.2020 at 7:34 PM, sidewinder said:

Still got my ‘Brothers and Other Mothers’ Vols 1 and 2 twofers. I think only Vol 1 came out in the UK so must have been a big seller. :rolleyes:

That might well be. My copy of Vol. 1 bought at the time ((c) Arista) is a German pressing by EMI Electrola. My copy of Vol. 2 (also bought new - a couple of years after Vol. 1) is a US Arista ("subsidiary of Columbia") pressing, As our local #1 record shop at the time had a very good jazz section and personnel that was very much in the know the US pressings did not make any difference price-  or availability-wise. (Happy times ...)

My spare copy of Vol. 1 is a US pressing too.

I don't know how well they sold overall by reissue standards back then but I do know that the Savoy twofers from those times were well distributed here and were all over the place for quite some time The only one (among those of interest to me) I had real trouble locating was "Black California Vol. 2".

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They got good distribution here in the early batches - the one with the Fats Navarro, Coltrane ‘Countdown’ and Byrd ‘Long Green’. I guess the damned accountants latched on before those later issues came out, so they then became a more elusive US import. Early 80s oil shock can’t have helped either. The ones over here were the EMI Electrola I think, very good sound too.

 Mole, HMV etc. had many of them in the deletions bin. Happy days !

I still have all of the ones I bought and pick up the US ones when I come across them. I have the ‘Black California Vol 2’ I think.

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1 hour ago, sidewinder said:

 I have the ‘Black California Vol 2’ I think.

Actually I found mine first as a CD reissue (which had about 80% of the 2 LPs' contents) in the early 90s and was glad to get it that way at all, and about a year later, during a visit to London I found a copy of the 2-LP set at Ray's and of course picked it up (though it was not all that cheap). Happily I managed to resell the CD at once to another local collector.

I've seen the occasional other copies of that one in secondhand record shop bins since.

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I was able to find Black California Volume 2 on eBay a few years ago. I have volume 1 but as a record. Discogs seems to have plentiful copies of the series.  

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I've been listening to some late '40s/early '50s modern jazz, all on BN, and one thing I find incredibly frustrating is that they'll have these incredibly groovy heads with interictally patterned rhythms going on, and then when they get to the solos it's almost always straight walking 4 - keep that shit going and solo over it!

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23 hours ago, BillF said:

 

This one is really great !

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2 hours ago, Gheorghe said:

This one is really great !

Which one is that, Gheorghe? (Your quote isn't visible).

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The Dizzy Gillespie 2 CDs at Spotlite

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5 minutes ago, Gheorghe said:

The Dizzy Gillespie 2 CDs at Spotlite

Yes indeed! :tup:tup

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A fine contemporary group that celebrates the music of c.1945. Strong influence of this classic album:

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