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Don Thompson was there - he should know how the sets/playlists were put together. If he claims that he chose for this presentation of the available material to approach the feel of the actual concerts, who are we to disagree?

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52 minutes ago, Mark13 said:

Don Thompson was there - he should know how the sets/playlists were put together. If he claims that he chose for this presentation of the available material to approach the feel of the actual concerts, who are we to disagree?

That’s hardly a reason to agree with the approach, because he was there. I have to agree with Jim. 

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On 29.6.2020 at 1:44 AM, crisp said:

Sorry if this has already been discussed but the track listing for disc five is wrong. 

Track one is I've Got You Under My Skin (listed as Just Squeeze Me)

Track two is Just Squeeze Me (listed as All The Things You Are)

Track three is All the Things You Are (listed as Autumn Leaves)

Track four is Autumn Leaves (listed as Wave)

Track five is Wave (listed as I've Got You Under My Skin)

Track six and seven are listed correctly.

When I listened to the CD I obviously wasn't concentrating because I only discovered this when I ripped the disc and the CD database used by Dbpoweramp listed the corrected titles with the listed titles in brackets.

Just got to disc 5 and was wondering why I'm hearing "I've Got You under My Skin" first - guess all's okay with my set then, just a stupid mistake?

 

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@JSngry I get your point, but it's a non-issue - the set is perfect as it is!

Plus, I'm not sure it actually contains any full set of music anyway. The run-down:

March 27: 5 tunes
March 26: 6 tunes
March 28: 7 tunes
March 29: 6 tunes (TelArc CD)

October 25/26: 7 tunes
October 27-29: 8 tunes (A&M double album) + 5 tunes (Artist House album) + 1 tune
October 30: 5 tunes
October 31: 2 tunes

Assuming they did at least 2 sets per night, that doesn't quite represent any full night, except possibly for Oct 27-29, if many (two thirds) of the tunes come from, say, the 28th.

Alas, there's no full discography provided with setlists - and I'd assume, since Thompson was the original recording engineer (and the reissue producer for Mosaic, obviously), they'd have had access to these, if they still existed?

Either way, wonderful, wonderful set! :tup: :tup: :tup:

Edited by king ubu
lousey typing ;-)

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Yes, all sets have this mistake. I contacted Mosaic and got an answer that they were 'painfully aware' of it and had corrected it in the discographical data on their site. As to my request for a replacement disk if they were to put this right in a future pressing, Scott informed me that all runs were manufactured and a repressing was just too costly. So it is what it is.

BTW, this error got me studying the booklet(s) and I noticed that session E is printed in its entirety in the booklet to cd's 5-6 whereas the only track from that session to be found on these cd's is 'Just Squeeze Me'. The other (six) tracks are on cd's 3-4 (and listed in the accompanying booklet)

Edited by Mark13

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Finally ordered from JazzMessengers.

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On 8/5/2020 at 5:45 PM, JSngry said:

I've not cracked the set open yet, but...if you have to rearrange the playing order to create the same flow as the sets as played in the club - and you already have the recordings of the sets as they were played in the club...what am I missing here? Why are you trying to create something that should already exist?

 

On 8/5/2020 at 6:05 PM, ejp626 said:

I don't think anyone is claiming that every song from every set was either recorded or presented on the Mosaic set.  From a very casual glance, I'd say maybe 50% of the material from a one week stand has been preserved (or at least presented here), with the other songs either not recorded or not up to snuff, so then Don Thompson rearranged the rest.

I'd bet one contributory factor (maybe the main impetus) is that all the A&M Horizon material is on disc 7.  It looks like Mosaic used A&M's CD master, maybe to save money, maybe on Universal's insistence (note that that disc appears in its own clamshell...maybe Universal pressed and supplied the disc separately).  Since the material could no longer be presented chronologically (other tracks from October 27-29 appear on discs 3 and 4), Mosaic let Thompson arrange the set order for each disc.  I'm listening now to disc 6; he did a great job.

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That's a good observation, yes. Follow the money, of course!

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