Brad Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 10 Women in Jazz Who Never Got Their Due “While we’re often taught to think of jazz’s history as a cavalcade of great men and their bands, from its beginnings in the early 20th century women played a range of important roles, including onstage....Prevented from taking center stage, many female instrumentalists became composers, arrangers or artists’ managers...The piano and organ were considered more socially acceptable instruments for young women to play, and few serious fans of jazz would be unfamiliar with the names Mary Lou Williams, Marian McPartland, Hazel Scott, Shirley Scott or Alice Coltrane. But the ranks of female jazz genius run much deeper than that.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duaneiac Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 No mention of Melba Liston? Or Vi Redd? Or Marjorie Hyams? Or Mary Osborne? Here's a group I just recently discovered. According to the comments on YouTube, the featured drummer, Viola Smith, was still alive at age 106 last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) Paywall again. Of no use to "furriners" Anyway (and without knowing if the author did include these), I'd nominate Mary Osborne Terry Pollard Jutta Hipp Billie Rogers Kathleen Stobart Edited April 24, 2020 by Big Beat Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 Hipp was included. A few of these folks I was unfamiliar with previously. Not a bad article at all. Of course, in the more modern era, we shouldn't leave out Barbara Donald, Monnette Sudler, Jill McManus, Linda Sharrock, Irène Schweizer, Jane Robertson, Claire Daly -- and younger contemporary artists like Shayna Dulberger, Amanda Monaco, Mette Rasmussen, Louise D.E. Jensen... maybe a NYT mention would help get the latter group more gigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 Bertha Hope - which was included - to me an obvious choice .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 Totally. She did a lot running Manna House up on the east side, saw a number of great concerts there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 Ingrid Jensen Francesca Tanksley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 Barbara Donald .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 Sounds interesting. I won't pay to read it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall15 Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 Pat Moran, Lorraine Geller, Joyce Collins, Clora Bryant, Joanne Grauer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 Clora Bryant was in the article. I mean, the situation for women in jazz is so much better today than it used to be in terms of visibility... the challenge, as ever, is getting paid to do the work, and of course sexism is still a huge factor in terms of how an environment geared towards male behavior is really going to encourage equality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted April 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said: Paywall again. Of no use to "furriners" Anyway (and without knowing if the author did include these), I'd nominate Mary Osborne Terry Pollard Jutta Hipp Billie Rogers Kathleen Stobart 3 hours ago, jlhoots said: Sounds interesting. I won't pay to read it though. The women mentioned in the article are: Lovie Austin Lil Hardin Armstrong Valaida Snow Peggy Gilbert Una Mae Carlisle Ginger Smock Dorothy Donegan Jutta Hipp Clora Bryant Bertha Hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 6 hours ago, soulpope said: Barbara Donald .... Yeah, big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 Jane Getz - she played in Pony Poindexter's quartet immediately before he left for Europe. In his memoirs, he said "she played her ass off". But besides a Mingus LP there is nothing, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 Guess Carla Bley would be an obviuos pick, speakin' of more recent times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, mikeweil said: Jane Getz - she played in Pony Poindexter's quartet immediately before he left for Europe. In his memoirs, he said "she played her ass off". But besides a Mingus LP there is nothing, it seems. She was gigging at The Lighthouse, Hermosa Beach as late as the late 90s. Not sure about recordings though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 Iro Haarla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, mikeweil said: Jane Getz - she played in Pony Poindexter's quartet immediately before he left for Europe. In his memoirs, he said "she played her ass off". But besides a Mingus LP there is nothing, it seems. She's on that first Pharoah record, on ESP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, JSngry said: She's on that first Pharoah record, on ESP. ... which accientally featured drummer Marvin Paitillo who also was in Poindexter's quartet. So that was their next gig after Pony took a ride to Europe. She also played on George Braith's "Musart" LP on Prestige. The Lord disco now also lists several sessions made in California from 1995 to 2017, even one CD of her own leadership, but all for private musician-run labels, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasimado Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 Transcript of an interview with Jane Getz here - quite a life! http://bigmessybites.com/jane-getz-interview-transcription Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 8:24 AM, JSngry said: She's on that first Pharoah record, on ESP. she's on Facebook these days, praising our current president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 Ray Hair? https://www.afm.org/person/ray-hair/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 7:57 AM, porcy62 said: Guess Carla Bley would be an obviuos pick, speakin' of more recent times. She got her due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 As much as anybody does these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 hours ago, felser said: She got her due. Yes, actually I didn’t read the article so I probably misunderstood the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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