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More serendipity (see Ghost's post above). I acquired the "Poinciana Revisited" LP just last week. The track "Lament" quotes a tune at 5.22, and it's really bugging me to know what it is.

I hear it in my head played by a horn section. Can someone please help me out? Just 2 bars (or is it one bar of 6/8?) kind of jammed in there, then it moves on.

 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Milestones said:

Yeah, who' still around at 90 or above?  We lost some of them: Randy Weston, Jimmy Heath, Jimmy Cobb.

There's still Ahmad Jamal and Roy Haynes

 

Barry Harris is 90 and Sonny Rollins will be in 2 months!

Eugene Wright is 97!

And as many of us recently learned here in another thread, Hal Singer is 100!

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On 7/3/2020 at 2:12 PM, duaneiac said:

Barry Harris is 90 and Sonny Rollins will be in 2 months!

Eugene Wright is 97!

And as many of us recently learned here in another thread, Hal Singer is 100!

Benny Golson, Ted Brown, Charli Persip, Phil Nimmons, Sammy Nestico and Bill Holman, off of the top of my head.

Edit: And Marshall Allen!

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On 7/3/2020 at 0:27 PM, Milestones said:

Yeah, who' still around at 90 or above?  We lost some of them: Randy Weston, Jimmy Heath, Jimmy Cobb.

There's still Ahmad Jamal and Roy Haynes

 

Marshall Allen is 96 and still leading the Arkestra.

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I have read so much about Ahmad Jamal and never heard him. 
From the first Davis LP I had, and from the first Jazz Book I had, is is mentioned as one of the few musicians Miles Davis admired or said he was influenced by. 
I am not sure, for what labels he recorded since I fear that the labels that were available during the time I bought records, had featured him. 
I read that stuff like "Gal in Calico", "Surrey with the Fringe on Top" , those light hearted medium swingers with them light touch piano solos alterated by block chords (Garlands trademark) was influenced by Jamal. And that Miles said that he liked Garland because he had some influence from Jamal. 

Is it possible that on one of those Davis records there is a tune "Ahmad´s Blues". But I think that though it was on a Davis album it was only a trio feature and how it was as a young boy:  no Davis, no Trane, lesser attention, same thing with the trio track "Billy Boy" on "Milestones". 

 
So I only had read about Jamal. It is possible that in those years when was busy to learn to play  Ahmad Jamal was lesser active. It was more the years of the beginning of electric jazz, and those who played acoustic, were the heavy weighters like MCoy Tyner with his various Milestone recordings, and Herbie with VSOP. 

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11 minutes ago, Gheorghe said:

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So I only had read about Jamal. It is possible that in those years when was busy to learn to play  Ahmad Jamal was lesser active. It was more the years of the beginning of electric jazz, and those who played acoustic, were the heavy weighters like MCoy Tyner with his various Milestone recordings, and Herbie with VSOP. 

A telltale sign of how Ahmad Jamal was rated by some in radio - at least over here: The AFN radio stations in Germany of those mid- to late 70s had great music programs on AM that even catered to specialist and niche tastes with a heavy dose what then likely was called "nostalgia". But AFN radio on FM was an altogether differont matter, with background music doodling all day long in the style of "music to twiddle your thumbs off-duty in the barracks by" :D. The program largely consisted of MOR orchestras and (very occasionally) singers, and just about the only small group regularly featured (at least in those cases where I tuned in out of curiosity) was AHMAD JAMAL! Programmed right in between orchestra fare by the likes of Percy Faith, Mantovani, Hugo Winterhalter (yes! evidently some retro programming) et al. And in that context he did sound easily palatable enough ...

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Around 1960 I used to listen to AFN radio from Germany, just about hearing the music through a mass of static. The things I used to do to hear jazz, which the BBC largely disapproved of!

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5 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said:

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A telltale sign of how Ahmad Jamal was rated by some in radio - at least over here: The AFN radio stations in Germany of those mid- to late 70s had great music programs on AM that even catered to specialist and niche tastes with a heavy dose what then likely was called "nostalgia". But AFN radio on FM was an altogether differont matter, with background music doodling all day long in the style of "music to twiddle your thumbs off-duty in the barracks by" :D. The program largely consisted of MOR orchestras and (very occasionally) singers, and just about the only small group regularly featured (at least in those cases where I tuned in out of curiosity) was AHMAD JAMAL! Programmed right in between orchestra fare by the likes of Percy Faith, Mantovani, Hugo Winterhalter (yes! evidently some retro programming) et al. And in that context he did sound easily palatable enough ...

Wow, I fear I have to admit I had to run your statement thru google translate to fully understand it. 

I think I was listening to radio only until I bought more LPs myself or stopped completly when I was 17,18 and went alone to the clubs or started to perform myself. 
I fear I never really was "in tune" with radio listening because I want to decide, when and what music I hear. There were some jazz hours on Ö3, and I listened only to one: "Jazz Shop by Herwig Wurzer". This was only jazz LPs (spinning one or two tracks from an LP so folks might buy it. 
There was also "Jazz by Erich Kleinschuster" but this was mostly his own music. And "Fatty George" was not my music.

Music is such a thing I can´t listen to it just coincidally or while washing dishes or reading a book, so I fear I never really was the tipical radio listener. Since many decades I don´t even own a radio. I have a turntable, a CD-player. 

Is AFM what we called "UKW" when I listened to radio. We had UKW, KW, MW and UKW had Ö1 classic, Ö2 "volkmusic" and oom pah pah, and Ö3 was mostly pop and a few hours jazz. 

Ahmad Jamal I fear was not so much on the direct focus when I got my education. I think that mentors mentioned him as a stylistic influence for Miles and Garland thru Miles, but I fear they didn´t make efforts to pull our coats directly to Ahmad. 

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