sonnymax Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 As the brief news story states, "The deal means that more than 600 of Dylan's copyrighted songs written over nearly 60 years — "from 1962's cultural milestone 'Blowin' In The Wind' to this year's epic 'Murder Most Foul,'" the press release said — are now owned by the media giant." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 As Paul Desmond said, that's the way the world ends, not with a whim, but a banker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 $300 million is nothing to sneeze at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 Yep, sometimes you are happy enough to just take your $300 million and go home, especially if you are almost 80. That's almost $500,000 per song, including the stinkers like "Joey" etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 voice of a generation - make a lot of noise, make a lot of money, keep making a lot of money, finally cash out, hey, you did what you could, made what you could, not your problem anymore, that noise was ultimately just that - noise. Voice of a generation indeed1 Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Money talks...was that his tune also? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/07/arts/music/bob-dylan-sells-publishing.html?searchResultPosition=1 It is strange to me though. Who buys Bob Dylan's music today? I think he made out like a bandit. Edited December 7, 2020 by Dmitry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, Dmitry said: It is strange to me though. Who buys Bob Dylan's music today? I think he made out like a bandit. Depends on those licensing deals doesn't it? The companies (and I guess people) who buy rights to big names are thinking very long term. Wait a sec, does this mean UMG owns the rights to sell the recordings as well? That changes the calculation too ... for one thing, soon as dies there will be a ton of money to be made. Which can't be too far off if he's nearly 80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dan Gould said: Depends on those licensing deals doesn't it? The companies (and I guess people) who buy rights to big names are thinking very long term. Wait a sec, does this mean UMG owns the rights to sell the recordings as well? That changes the calculation too ... for one thing, soon as dies there will be a ton of money to be made. Which can't be too far off if he's nearly 80. I doubt that UMG now owns the recordings... I would have thought they belonged to Columbia and still do... I guess what it means is that whenever Columbia reissues some of Dylan's music a big check goes to UMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Dan Gould said: Wait a sec, does this mean UMG owns the rights to sell the recordings as well? Is what used to be Columbia now UMG, or are they still Sony. whoever they are now, they will still be selling the records. But UMG will collect the publishing royalties from those sales. I do hope that Dylan has some philanthropic organization or something where some of this 300 mil can go (or has been going). None of my business, of course, but it the voice of a generation gets pout-humanitarianed by Bill Gates, well, there's your voice of a generation then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Niko said: I doubt that UMG now owns the recordings... I would have thought they belonged to Columbia and still do... I guess what it means is that whenever Columbia reissues some of Dylan's music a big check goes to UMG Yeah, I wasn't sure if Dylan had any deal where he owned the recordings/masters. Maybe he was tired of paying off the recording costs and decided to take this deal instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duaneiac Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 Make that "Nobel prize winning" voice of a generation. It would have been so cool if Dylan had been willing to sell his entire catalog of work for this enormous sum of money -- all except for one song. He could pick the most obscure song, maybe one he himself forgot he even wrote, and just instruct his lawyers that this one song, and this one song only, was not for sale, no way no how, not for any amount of money! He would not have to give a reason why or an explanation. Perhaps he'd even take a bit of a financial hit because the buyer could not brag about owning the "complete" works of Bob Dylan. The mystique about this one song that Dyaln refused to sell, man, would grow enormously. . Musicians and academics would study it, seeking out the key which makes this song different from all other Dylan songs. People would claim how that one had always been their favorite Dyaln song all the time, the other songs are all played out, man. And it would all be just a big goof. That would have been so cool! Even cooler if that song had been titled, "Rosebud"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Get ready to hear Dylan’s tunes on tons of commercials. The Times They Are A-Changin’... for Pampers. Like A Rolling Stone... for Land Rover. Blowin’ In The Wind... for the wind power council. Edited December 7, 2020 by mjzee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 "Lay Lady Lay" for the ED drug of your choice. voice of a generation indeed, again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 http://www.citypages.com/music/bob-dylan-selling-out-his-8-best-product-endorsements/481354261 He's been lending his bona fides for commercial use for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 Voice of a generation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Dmitry said: Money talks...was that his tune also? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/07/arts/music/bob-dylan-sells-publishing.html?searchResultPosition=1 It is strange to me though. Who buys Bob Dylan's music today? I think he made out like a bandit. I bought his new CD!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Dmitry said: Money talks...was that his tune also? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/07/arts/music/bob-dylan-sells-publishing.html?searchResultPosition=1 It is strange to me though. Who buys Bob Dylan's music today? I think he made out like a bandit. I do. I like much of his more recent more than some of his earlier work. Edited December 8, 2020 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicky Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 A lot of nonsense, projection and envy on display here. Bob Dylan is a towering figure the likes of which will likely never exist again. To Jazzbo's point, the music he has recorded and performed into his later years is the equal of, and in many ways surpasses, what his younger self created at his so called commercial peak. His consistency and aesthetic greatness is akin to Ellington. The comments here are really ignorant and depressing... although somewhat predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, dicky said: The comments here are really ignorant and depressing... although somewhat predictable. Thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicky Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Chuck - I have a healthy amount of your recordings on disc. I treasure them all. What Dylan falls short for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 ha. I don't even really know what to think about all of this. Surprised his songs aren't set up to be in PD. Anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, dicky said: Chuck - I have a healthy amount of your recordings on disc. I treasure them all. What Dylan falls short for you? Nothing falls short. I just didn't like your post. Saw Dylan in a couple if interesting situations and rode the Clark St bus with him and Albert Grossman in '66 or '67. As a friend on Facebook posted: What's the world coming to when a brilliant artist who helped change American music, did things with words that weren't previously done in popular music, toured tirelessly for decades, inspired countless performers and songwriters, and is now pushing 80 has the audacity to sell his music publishing catalog for what the market will bear to the buyer of his choice while he's still alive, thereby saving his estate a multitude of headaches and possible acrimony. What an effing sellout! Edited December 8, 2020 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Circa 1961 I was in a dorm room at the U. of Chicago with a visiting Bob Dylan, then still Bob Zimmerman, and some of that school's talented folkies (the U. of C. was a folk music hot bed at the time). It was my impression that Dylan was not the most accomplished player in the room by a good margin, but when he more or less took charge of things, the music-making came together as it hadn't before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 0:59 PM, jlhoots said: I bought his new CD!! Jesus, if it's anything like his Christmas album, you got rooked. Dylan's Christmas CD is the worst Christmas CD I've ever bought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bresna said: Jesus, if it's anything like his Christmas album, you got rooked. Dylan's Christmas CD is the worst Christmas CD I've ever bought. Nothing to do with Christmas. Not sure why you thought it did. Edited December 8, 2020 by jlhoots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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