medjuck Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Review here: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/mar/28/floating-points-pharoah-sanders-lso-promises-review-extraordinary and it's now on Spotify. I first heard a cut on KCRW, didn't know what it was and went searching for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 I listened to this and it wasn't clicking with me, but I may be an outlier as most things I'm reading are positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 I love it. I am a fan of Floating Points but a bigger fan of Pharoah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 I really enjoyed it. A little too polite at times, but I think Sanders' playing is excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Heard good thing about it so it’s on my ‘to listen’ list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 It's not Jazz and anyone judging it on that criterion is missing the point, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 4 hours ago, mjazzg said: It's not Jazz and anyone judging it on that criterion is missing the point, I think. Sanders is like Stan Getz, his sound is so magical it’s worth hearing him in almost any context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 The composition and arrangement are way too cute (Morton Feldman cheesified), but Sanders's playing - as well as the way his gorgeous sound is captured - are excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted March 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Here's another review: https://thebluemoment.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 I'll take a chance. Ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) I read an interesting reference to Harold Budd's 'Pavilion Of Dreams" as a possible precursor to this collaboration. Just listening to that now, not having done so for a while and I can hear the similarities, although Brown is a bit more foregrounded on it than Pharaoh is on 'Promises'. I had forgotten how good the Budd is. Again, not Jazz. Edited March 31, 2021 by mjazzg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 12 hours ago, Д.Д. said: The composition and arrangement are way too cute (Morton Feldman cheesified), but Sanders's playing - as well as the way his gorgeous sound is captured - are excellent. Ha! Great description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 I don't hear the Feldman connection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 It's all very 2021. I mean its sonic touchstones, Pharoah (mostly) aside. Not a bad thing, mind you. But not nearly the otherworldly escape it may seem to be on first examination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Judging by how it is taking off on Spotify, this is likely to be Sanders's most popular album - by a wide margin. 1 hour ago, mjazzg said: I don't hear the Feldman connection Not even a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 47 minutes ago, Д.Д. said: Judging by how it is taking off on Spotify, this is likely to be Sanders's most popular album - by a wide margin. Not even a bit? I love the idea of all those Spotify listeners being introduced to Pharoah. I hear the piano motif is similar but it wasn't enough to make me think of Feldman, not sure it will be from now on either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 There's a nice review of this album in today's Wall St Journal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 I'm impressed by the album. Meditative music for uncertain times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 Just now, Clunky said: I'm impressed by the album. Meditative music for uncertain times. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 10:04 PM, mjzee said: There's a nice review of this album in today's Wall St Journal. Also one in The New Yorker, as a "Pop Music" review. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/03/29/pharoah-sanders-takes-on-electronic-music So, seems to be reaching a diverse audience for probably equally diverse reasons. Not a bad thing, imo, although...when did Pharoah star playing C-Melody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 I do find it interesting how much this album has polarised opinions. On the one hand, I have read think pieces on how it represents an unacceptable "gentrification" of free jazz, which privileges historical figures that are perceived to have cultural cache whilst ignoring the living music. On the other hand, there's been adulation on the level of this article: https://4columns.org/holiday-harmony/pharoah-sanders (warning: do not read on a full stomach). Having listened to it a few times now, I really enjoy it, although I'd have preferred a little more Pharaoh and less of the slightly soupy orchestrations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: I do find it interesting how much this album has polarised opinions. On the one hand, I have read think pieces on how it represents an unacceptable "gentrification" of free jazz, which privileges historical figures that are perceived to have cultural cache whilst ignoring the living music. Last I checked, Pharoah Sanders was still alive? And, you know, what's the point of having a long career if you can't do something with it? What's the desired outcome? Retirement? Obscurity? Death? The latter is probably preferable to the vulture types who love to "rediscover" dead people so they can claim the cachet of "ownership/curatorship" without the inconvenience of the real person getting in the way., you know, here, let me tell you about the tragic tale of a great talent who died alone and forgotten to all but a handfull, most of whom are also dead now, so, here, let ME tell you all about it. Hell, I hope that Pharoah lives to be 100, has bigger and bigger hit records, and dies a worldwide, household name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Reynolds Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 I think it’s boring to an extreme. Nice to hear Sanders get some ink and recognition but I’m much more attuned to more crunchy and invigorating music than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 hours ago, JSngry said: Last I checked, Pharoah Sanders was still alive? And, you know, what's the point of having a long career if you can't do something with it? What's the desired outcome? Retirement? Obscurity? Death? The latter is probably preferable to the vulture types who love to "rediscover" dead people so they can claim the cachet of "ownership/curatorship" without the inconvenience of the real person getting in the way., you know, here, let me tell you about the tragic tale of a great talent who died alone and forgotten to all but a handfull, most of whom are also dead now, so, here, let ME tell you all about it. Hell, I hope that Pharoah lives to be 100, has bigger and bigger hit records, and dies a worldwide, household name. Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 I didn't mean to suggest Sanders was dead. From his playing on this one he certainly sounds alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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