Late Posted May 27, 2021 Report Share Posted May 27, 2021 Sonny Simmons: alto saxophone Barbara Donald: trumpet Mike Cohen: piano Jerry Sealund: bass Bill Pickens: bass Billy Higgins: drums recorded July 31 & August 1, 1969 Contemporary Studios, Los Angeles 1. Rumasuma 2. Back To The Apple 3. Reincarnation 4. For Posterity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted May 27, 2021 Report Share Posted May 27, 2021 Have long wished for that to show up on CD. That and 'Home' by Garty Bartz were the two I was most disappointed Fantasy missed in their massive CD reissue campaign in the 80's/90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted May 27, 2021 Report Share Posted May 27, 2021 It’s on my wishlist but it is very rare unfortunately. Fantastic music and a very accessible one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted May 27, 2021 Report Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) I have it on Contemporary vinyl - like it, it’s in the usual very good sound. Odd that Fantasy never reissued it. Edited May 27, 2021 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted May 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2021 6 hours ago, sidewinder said: ... it’s in the usual very good sound. Discogs only lists "recorded at Contemporary Studios," but I wonder if Roy DuNann was the engineer (in 1969?). Lester Koenig produced. This is prime Sonny Simmons, but the album, in my opinion, really belongs to Barbara Donald. Some of her finest solos. The ghost of Booker Little smiled during the recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Late said: Discogs only lists "recorded at Contemporary Studios," but I wonder if Roy DuNann was the engineer (in 1969?). Lester Koenig produced. This is prime Sonny Simmons, but the album, in my opinion, really belongs to Barbara Donald. Some of her finest solos. The ghost of Booker Little smiled during the recording. I no longer have the vinyl, but do have "Burning Spears" on cd. That disc says Produced and recorded by Lester Koenig. John Koenig is on Facebook - try contacting him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corto maltese Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Late said: Discogs only lists "recorded at Contemporary Studios," but I wonder if Roy DuNann was the engineer (in 1969?). Lester Koenig produced. Roy DuNann left Contemporary in the early 60s. The number of recordings with him as a sound engineer is surprisingly (and disappointingly) small. The funny thing is that he started working for Koenig recording dixieland jazz (for the Good Time Jazz label). That's where his heart was. He didn't like at all the modern jazz that Koenig started recording for Contemporary. I remember from an interview I've read the question what his thoughts were when he was recording those historic first sessions of Ornette Coleman. His answer was something like: "I would have sent the boy home." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted May 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 3 hours ago, corto maltese said: Roy DuNann left Contemporary in the early 60s. Must be someone else then. Regardless, a good recording. This album deserves to be better known. In the documentary posted above, there's a short clip where Simmons himself gets out his vinyl copy and talks about it. Oddly, Brewster's documentary makes little mention of Barbara Donald. The scene where Simmons locates the pecan tree in Louisiana (and disturbing site of Jim Crow violence) from his youth is moving. Too bad Jonathan Horwich couldn't have reissued this album on International Phonograph, but what he did release is a small treasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted June 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2021 On 5/28/2021 at 7:34 AM, Late said: In the documentary posted above, there's a short clip where Simmons himself gets out his vinyl copy and talks about it. Just realized I didn't post any link to a documentary. Here it is. Simmons was indeed a last man standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted July 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 Sonny Simmons San Francisco Chronicle article. Simmons' 1991 reunion with Donald, here. Neither had lost their touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted July 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 This is what Simmons fans need to watch: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 Great doc @Late. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 Craft should put out Rumasuma on CD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 They should make a nice twofold reissue with a cd and an LP version. Or a deluxe edition with the Prince Lasha sessions and the Burning Spirits in a boxed set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 This album is a Barbara Donald showcase .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optatio Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, soulpope said: This album is a Barbara Donald showcase .... Agreed! I have that album and this ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) On 11/20/2022 at 11:53 AM, soulpope said: This album is a Barbara Donald showcase .... Yeah I still remember I heard her playing the first time on his ESP work. I thought I was listening to some well known postbopper to found out it was Donald. I didn’t knew of her yet. Fantastic trumpeter. Edited November 21, 2022 by Pim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, Pim said: Yeah I still remember I heard her playing the first time on his ESP work. I thought I was listening to some well known postbopper to found out it was Donald. I didn’t knew of her yet. Fantastic trumpeter. Yep .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted November 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 I still think that Barbara Donald should've been on Ascension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitstructures Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 On 11/19/2022 at 11:58 PM, Pim said: They should make a nice twofold reissue with a cd and an LP version. Or a deluxe edition with the Prince Lasha sessions and the Burning Spirits in a boxed set I would totally buy a Simmons-Lasha box. Totally underserved in this era of plentiful reissues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Late said: I still think that Barbara Donald should've been on Ascension. In place of Freddie or in place of Dewey? Or in addition to both of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted November 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 7 hours ago, JSngry said: In place of Freddie or in place of Dewey? Or in addition to both of them? She could have subbed in for either, but—yes!—a third trumpet would also fit the bill. Donald really was one of the finest "out" trumpet players of the period. Or any period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 12 hours ago, JSngry said: In place of Freddie or in place of Dewey? Or in addition to both of them? 5 hours ago, Late said: She could have subbed in for either, but—yes!—a third trumpet would also fit the bill. Donald really was one of the finest "out" trumpet players of the period. Or any period. I think you could have subbed either for her, and possibly someone else like Hannibal, Alan Shorter or Don Cherry. I think that in the context they'd all have been an improvement. The trumpet playing is one of the weaker points of that record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 I think Hannibal was still in Tezas at the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted November 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 We have an "Ascension Name Game" thread that I should bump back up. Jazz fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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