ghost of miles Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 15 hours ago, Larry Kart said: Love this somewhat ignored edition of the Ellington Band. Three CDs, handsome booklet, thorough annotations by Patrica Willard. A must for "Happy Go Lucky Local Parts 1 and 2." 👍 Great set, and one of the first Ellington collections I ever picked up, believe it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 30 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: Yeah, early jazz is where guys like Stravinsky and Milhaud went for inspiration. I've always felt that there was a definite resemblance between the stoptime passage in Joplin's "Stoptime Rag" (its resolution in particular) and the final phrases of Stravinsky's Octet. As we know FWIW (I think this is so ) Stravinsky's experience of ragtime was through sheet music, not recordings or live performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 Is that Duke the Musicraft stuff? If so, Prestige had it in a 24000 series release that was a subject of endless fascination afaic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: I've always felt that there was a definite resemblance between the stoptime passage in Joplin's "Stoptime Rag" (its resolution in particular) and the final phrases of Stravinsky's Octet. As we know FWIW (I think this is so ) Stravinsky's experience of ragtime was through sheet music, not recordings or live performances. One of the advantages with Scott Joplin is that the music was written, so we have hi-fi options to experience this music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: As we know FWIW (I think this is so ) Stravinsky's experience of ragtime was through sheet music, not recordings or live performances. Did Stravinsky keep out of clubs or cafes or wherever it was where people went to hang out and get a taste of the new? I mean, if there was sheet music, somebody could play it anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, JSngry said: Is that Duke the Musicraft stuff? If so, Prestige had it in a 24000 series release that was a subject of endless fascination afaic... Not Musicraft - transcription discs. I first had these on a series of 5 Hindsight lps. Edited August 8, 2021 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: Not Musicraft - transcription discs. I first had these on a series of Hindsight lps. Yes -- Hindsight (a three CD box for me) but it's the Musicraft band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 The lps looked like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, JSngry said: Did Stravinsky keep out of clubs or cafes or wherever it was where people went to hang out and get a taste of the new? I mean, if there was sheet music, somebody could play it anywhere He did have the sheet music, so the story goes, and the chances of hearing Joplin's rags in French clubs or cafes in the teens or twenties would've been slim I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 Why? Maybe not clubs plural, but wasn't Paris on the cutting edge of Exotic Negritude? Or was this before any of that started happening? I guess what I'm asking is, how did Stravinsky get the sheet music to begin with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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