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All recordings done prior to 1923 are about to be pd


medjuck

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33 minutes ago, medjuck said:

One thing has me wondering, though: What is a "public domain from before 1923"?? :D

Come on, you text line fillers: What you wanted to say is "an estimated 400,000 sound recordings from before 1923 enter the public domain". :D So say it. The structure of your language does give you the tools to do it. :lol:

BTW, the article is only true for the US, of course - or to put it the other way round - not for Europe where the cutoff date is 1962 (some time in 1962 when the new EU law in question became effective in 2012).

But it will be interesting to see who will actually recycle these "acoustic-era" recordings in recognizable samples in their today's music.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Big Beat Steve said:

BTW, the article is only true for the US, of course - or to put it the other way round - not for Europe where the cutoff date is 1962 (some time in 1962 when the new EU law in question became effective in 2012)

 

Are you saying that all pre-1962 recordings are pd in Europe? 

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Yes. Recordings that were actually released up to some cutoff date in 1962 and that therefore had reached a first release of 50 years or more in the past by that cutoff date in 2012 when the revised European P.D. law came into effect that had been lobbied hard by, above all, Cliff Richard and Paul McCartney to prevent their zillion sellers from going PD as the 50-year limit of their recordings approached. The botton line is from that day into 2012 the 50-year P.D. rule in Europe that has existed for a long time no longer was a sliding limit moving forward with time but became static. But it did NOT become retroactively applicable to anything first released at least 50 years earlier.
That's the basis on which most of the much-lambasted European P.D. reissue labels (and also some U.S labels that are tokenly claiming to have been "released/pressed in the E.U.") operate. Just look at the recording cutoff dates of a LOT of (often huge-sized) box-set "anthologies" that are out there. According to the laws of the E.U. this IS legal. Strictly speaking not for sale in countries where these recordings are not yet part of the P.D. (but in this case the blame rather lies with "the bastids" or whoever ... ^_^)

Recordings recorded before that now-unmovable 50-year cutoff date but not released for the first time until much later are a very grey-shaded area in this (but due to the niche character of most of these collectible musics they usually pass unnoticed). Or, as it has also happened, the (re)issuers work out some deal with the parties involved anyway.

 

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