JSngry Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Some, none at length, but all of them heavy. His "The Song Is You" solo from that side is the one that Anthony Braxton repeatedly refers to as one of the turning points of his (Braxton's) life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsj Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 garthsj - the Revelation albums to which I refer are/were exceprts from the Half Note, some of which appear in toto on the Verve 2 CD set, the rest of which remain unissued in full, at least to my knowledge. The Ind released things are different performances altogether, although they are every bit as superb, and every bit as recommended. Warne was definitely in a zone during those 1959-1960 NY years! You are right! Damn! Without my original LPs I got confused about these late 50's Marsh/Konitz "extract" albums from Revelation and Wave. Peter Ind is to be congratulated for keeping these available. Tantalizingly, in the liner notes to the Marsh album, he claims that he has tapes of the Gerry Mulligan Jazz Orchestra from those days, and "It is my hope that given time and success with Wave -- more of this music can be released." I wonder if that will ever happen? In the meantime ... I cannot stress how incredible the improvisations are on these two CDs.... Garth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 ok I'm confused now, as result of "All Music" I'm back on a Marsh kick and ordered "More Jazz from the village" (Wave),is this different from "Jazz from the village" ( Wave) "Jazz" (the lp) and "More Jazz" (the cd) are almost the same thing. The cd restores a number of edits and is missing one track. I have not checked the lp to see if the missing title might be something restored to one of the other tunes. I will report back later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 How many thumbs up on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyles Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 How many thumbs up on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Johnson Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Y'all reminded me that I've been wanting to purchase a copy of All Music from Mr. Nessa. So the order goes off today! Not sure quite what to expect--sad to admit, I've never heard any of Marsh's music, not that I'm aware of, anyway. I'll post some impressions when it arrives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Peter, it's safe to say you're going to love it. Talk about an ear opener. Without a doubt, it will have you saying "must have more Marsh, must have more Marsh"... B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 How many thumbs up on this? I'm sold. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 How many thumbs up on this? I'm sold. B) Sl five more won't matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 How many thumbs up on this? I'm sold. B) Sl five more won't matter? Normally it would, but I sensed these four thumbs up were applied with extra force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 As long as you're ordering Marsh Criss-Cross sides, I'd not be yoyr friend if I didn't tell you that not getting this one would be just plain ignunt. (said w/extra extra force ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 (said w/extra extra force ) In that case, I better get it. My momma didn't raise no dummy. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 WURD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 I think the Ballad date is the cream of the Criss Cross Marsh stuff. I think Jim was saying that. I stopped my survey of Marsh recordings (earlier in this thread) because as we got out of the '50s we reached an area where I was in the position of dealing with sessions and producers "in competition" with me and I could understand others reacting by dismissing my complaints or ignoring worthy sessions I had something to complain about. "Star Highs" is a problematic date for me. Warne plays well as does Hank, but the producer in me has a problem with balances and aspects of Mraz's and Mel Lewis's sound. I would have done it differently. I don't think Warne hits the highs he could, but he makes no mistakes and ALL of his recordings are worth serious study. I do know he was happy with this date. He told me a number of his "best fans" were delighted he made a record with "another master" - Hank Jones. Please don't ignore the Chet Baker CC date called Blues For A Reason. Chet, Warne, Hod O'Brien, Cecil McBee and Eddie Gladden. See why I stopped my survey? I want you to buy them ALL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 I just notice there are more messages in the "Rush" thread. Maybe I should shoot myself. I'll ignore messages from Dan. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Burke Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 I just notice there are more messages in the "Rush" thread. Maybe I should shoot myself. You're not alone, friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Burke Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 I was making a Tristano School comp for someone on faculty tonight and ran across this line in Terry Martin's liners to the Intuition CD: "When Lennie died in 1978, after recording amongst other riches, his solo piano masterpiece 'C Minor Complex', he would leave the legacy of his students." Is a recording of this piece available (OOP or otherwise)? I mean, I don't mind at all hunting down an LP. That's what I do.... B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 its on the mosaic set and the "New Tristano" CD on Rhino I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 I think the Ballad date is the cream of the Criss Cross Marsh stuff. I think Jim was saying that. I stopped my survey of Marsh recordings (earlier in this thread) because as we got out of the '50s we reached an area where I was in the position of dealing with sessions and producers "in competition" with me and I could understand others reacting by dismissing my complaints or ignoring worthy sessions I had something to complain about. "Star Highs" is a problematic date for me. Warne plays well as does Hank, but the producer in me has a problem with balances and aspects of Mraz's and Mel Lewis's sound. I would have done it differently. I don't think Warne hits the highs he could, but he makes no mistakes and ALL of his recordings are worth serious study. I do know he was happy with this date. He told me a number of his "best fans" were delighted he made a record with "another master" - Hank Jones. Please don't ignore the Chet Baker CC date called Blues For A Reason. Chet, Warne, Hod O'Brien, Cecil McBee and Eddie Gladden. See why I stopped my survey? I want you to buy them ALL! Thanks, for th info Chuck. I look for that Chet Baker date as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted June 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 No "C Minor Complex" isn't on the Rhino twofer--they omitted it to save space, the nitwits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Burke Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 (edited) The Rhino CD has a tune called "G Minor Complex" but the Intuition liners refer to "C Minor Complex". Same thing? A goof? Either way, this is weird because the above quote makes it sound like the recording was made quite a ways prior to 1962. Complex indeed.... Edited June 9, 2004 by Brandon Burke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 The Rhino CD has a tune called "G Minor Complex" but the Intuition liners refer to "C Minor Complex". Same thing? A goof? Not a goof - 2 different pieces. Rhino did include C Minor Complex in a piano anthology issued at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Burke Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 Thanks. By the way, I "goofed" in that last post. I meant to say that the Intuition liners make "C Minor Complex" sound like something that was recorded in the 70's. Is this the case, or was it recorded for but ultimately left off of The New Tristano? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 I think you misread the liners. I don't think there are any commercial recordings of Lennie from the '70s. C Minor Complex was issued on the original lp and subsequent reissues except the Rhino cd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Two items of (possible) interest: | another review of ALL MUSIC, this one at One Final Note: http://www.onefinalnote.com/reviews/m/mars...e/all-music.asp | Warne's youngest son Jason (or someone claiming to be this individual), has posted a response to Derek Taylor's fine review of ALL MUSIC at the Bagatellen site: http://www.bagatellen.com/archives/reviews/000511.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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