ListeningToPrestige Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 So much misinformation. Wikipedia and a bunch of other sources (probably all lifting from Wiki) have him born in NYC. Discogs and the liner notes to his first album have him born in Jamaica (liner notes unspecified location, Discogs says Montego Bay). Some discographies have Arriba! recorded at Van Gelder Studio, but this is likely wrong. Joe was produced by Lew Futterman, who tended to stay out of Bob Weinstock's orbit. Others make it Regent Studios, NYC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 Lew Futterman managed Jack McDuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 I have his conga instruction book in the basement. Will dig it up tomorrow and lokk for bio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) The liner notes to Prestige 7413 (Wild and Warm) correct an error in the notes to Prestige 7336. It says he arrived in the US from Jamaica in 1939, when he was nine or ten years old. Apparently the previous album (which I don't have) states something different. For whatever that's worth. Edited July 4, 2022 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Just spun Wild and Warm for the first time in a while. This, IMO, is the money cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Can't grab his book right now. My basement is a mess due to some repair work etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Remember that Andrew Hille was born in Haiti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Just pulled out this reissue twofer and listened - nice, but not overwhelming. There are more imaginative conga players than Montego Joe. Milford Graves plays some deep stuff in his solos. The role model definitely is Mongo*s band .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 3 hours ago, mikeweil said: Just pulled out this reissue twofer and listened - nice, but not overwhelming. There are more imaginative conga players than Montego Joe. Milford Graves plays some deep stuff in his solos. The role model definitely is Mongo*s band .... Is "No Tears" on there? That is the money cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 Yes it is, but .... what I said. But I can see what you like about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, mikeweil said: Yes it is, but .... what I said. But I can see what you like about it Well, I am in general more interested in the group sound than in the individual players. If a conga player can keep a good groove, then she's golden. Edited July 6, 2022 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) What I've always been confused by is he's credited with playing drums on The New Boss Guitar of George Benson but the sound of the drums and the feel clearly is Joe Dukes. That was cut at Regent Studios. I have the George Benson and Jack McDuff Prestige 2fer reissue from 2006 or 7 Concord put out Edited July 9, 2022 by CJ Shearn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 There are several Prestige issues from the 1960's with false personnel credits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Montego Joe came to Dallas with Ted Curson in the late 1970s as "featured guests" at an attemted-annual John Coltrane Festival. Both did not behave well nor play particularly well either. Curson had a documented history to support this performance being a big let-down instead of a determination indicator, but with Montego Joe, I'm afraid it was more or less a "fuck this clown and his New York Attitude no playing ass" thing. James Clay, who was also the leader of the bnad that accompanied them, extended that verdict to both of them, but that was James clay's prerogative, certainly not mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 4 hours ago, mikeweil said: There are several Prestige issues from the 1960's with false personnel credits. I figured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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