medjuck Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 Ted Gioia started this: https://www.change.org/p/give-duke-ellington-the-pulitzer-prize-he-was-denied-in-1965?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_33959600_en-US%3A3&recruiter=1109027729&recruited_by_id=e91caf70-a6c9-11ea-881e-2d025b4bf7df&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial&share_bandit_exp=message-33959600-en-US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 Signed. At 123, he's no longer too young! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 How would that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 Who exactly is this for at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 Maybe they can take Wynton's away and give it to Duke instead? Damage done, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 Duke Ellington’s name easily dwarfs any of the clowns on the Pulitzer committee who voted against the award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 I thought Duke already received one posthumously. Am I misremembering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 59 minutes ago, Ken Dryden said: Duke Ellington’s name easily dwarfs any of the clowns on the Pulitzer committee who voted against the award. And I'm kinda, like, ok with leaving them to twist and slowly dry forever in the bright unyielding sun of history. Fuck them then, fuck them now, and fuck them forever. https://hearingthepulitzers.podbean.com/e/episode-23-1965-no-prize-the-pulitzer-hat-trick/ This is a good episode. Let's name names: https://www.pulitzer.org/board/1965 Pulitzer Prize Board 1964-1965 Barry Bingham, Sr., editor-in-chief and president, Louisville Courier-Journal Sevellon Brown, editor, The Providence Journal Erwin D. Canham, Editor, Christian Science Monitor, Boston, MA Turner Catledge, Managing Editor, The New York Times Norman Chandler, President and Publisher, Los Angeles Times John Hohenberg, executive secretary, The Pulitzer Prizes, Columbia University Grayson Kirk, president, Columbia University, New York, NY Kenneth MacDonald, vice president and editor, Des Moines Register and Tribune W.D. Maxwell, vice president and editor, Chicago Tribune Ralph McGill, publisher, The Atlanta Constitution Paul Miller, president/chairman of the board, Gannett Newspapers, Inc., Rochester, NY Newbold Noyes, editor, The Evening Star, Washington, DC Joseph Pulitzer Jr. (III), editor and publisher, St. Louis Post-Dispatch Louis B. Seltzer, editor, Cleveland Press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 42 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: I thought Duke already received one posthumously. Am I misremembering? Nope. 1999. https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/duke-ellington He was dead then. He's still dead now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, JSngry said: Nope. 1999. https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/duke-ellington He was dead then. He's still dead now. Yeah, but why the second Pulitzer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 Ted Gioa has been a manufactured rage-machine lately, imo. I don't subscribe (aka pay) for his stuff (nor, to his cresit, are you required to), but it seems like every time somebody sends me something of his, there's this rageyness going on that seems totally directed towards making me think that he is One Righteous Dude. The guy wrote a TOTALLY magnificent book about West Coast Jazz, but since then.... And now...he bills himself as "The Honest Broker", so at least he warns you in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, JSngry said: Ted Gioa has been a manufactured rage-machine lately, imo. I don't subscribe (aka pay) for his stuff (nor, to his cresit, are you required to), but it seems like every time somebody sends me something of his, there's this rageyness going on that seems totally directed towards making me think that he is One Righteous Dude. The guy wrote a TOTALLY magnificent book about West Coast Jazz, but since then.... And now...he bills himself as "The Honest Broker", so at least he warns you in advance. I used to read his stuff on his Substack page and Twitter but stopped doing so, I found him tiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 He got good traction with a series of an microwave ready articles about how, statistically, new music is less present now than it was twenty years ago. I think the social media fame has gone to his head. I think I'm this kind of harmless stuff is just how you keep up your media profile these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 8 hours ago, JSngry said: Maybe they can take Wynton's away and give it to Duke instead? Damage done, though. Made me laugh, hard. don't stop being you. On the other hand, I was damned glad that they finally fully corrected the record for Jim Thorpe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 10 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: Yeah, but why the second Pulitzer? I have the same question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 Did they half-ass it in 1999 somehow? Or maybe it’s necessary to take away Wynton’s to truly correct the wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said: Did they half-ass it in 1999 somehow? Or maybe it’s necessary to take away Wynton’s to truly correct the wrong. Wait, I thought Wynton is Ellington. At least that is what Wynton told me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 And you were on the Pulitzer jury....now it starts to make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, JSngry said: And you were on the Pulitzer jury....now it starts to make sense. You are mixing me up with one of the other jurors. I voted for Ken Nordine and Babs Gonzales. Edited July 20, 2022 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 Oh, so you were on the Fiction jury. Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aparxa Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 Babs Approved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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