Stefan Wood Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 I just saw this on the Jazzmatazz site: NEW Albert Ayler - Complete Live at Slug's Saloon Recordings (Lonehill) Apr 27 NEW Sonny Criss - Lost Recordings (Lonehill) Apr 27 — with five bonus tracks NEW Eric Dolphy - Complete Memorial Album Sessions (Lonehill) Apr 27 NEW Bob Dorough & Sam Most Quartet - Complete Recordings (Lonehill) Apr 27 — with four bonus tracks NEW Harry Edison & Charlie Shavers - Complete at Midnight & At Riverside Sessions (Lonehill) Apr 27 NEW Duke Ellington - 1967 European Tour: Complete Teatro Sistina Concert - 2 CDs (Lonehill) Apr 27 NEW Booker Little - New York Session (Lonehill) Apr 27 — with one bonus track NEW Gerry Mulligan & Art Farmer - Complete Live in Rome Concert (Lonehill) Apr 27 NEW Jack Teagarden & Bobby Hackett - Complete 1950s Studio Recordings (Lonehill) Apr 27 What label is this? Couldn't find a website or any information regarding the cds. For instance, is the Booker Little session the same as the one he did with Donald Byrd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.D. Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 (edited) This is I think, a European Label ( British???) I saw the first signs of these in adds in the latest JaZZ Review / Jazz Journal. I also saw the list on Jazzmatazz but the links to CDuniverse do not list any tracks etc. I suspect tat the Booker Little is the MOMA recording with Teddy Edwards and Booker Ervin. Many times reissued via a variety of labels. Often under the " In NY" title. The Edison/Shavers were Capitols answer to the success of the Buck Clayton Jam Sessions.. two LPs Session at Midnight / Session at Riverside.. I don't think there were any unissued tracks from these as might be thought from the " Complete " tag. These have been issued on CD previouslyon the British Dormouse label.. good mainstream Jazz for those who like that sort of thing. The Tea / Hackett will be the Coast to Coast / Jazz Ultimate sets.. also previously on Dormouse and more recently in the Collectors Classic catalogue. There is also a Lee Morgan announved by Lone Hill... Those Dizzy Days Lee with the Gillespie Big Band???????????????? I am curious about the others though. I think I know the Dolphy. Edited April 8, 2004 by P.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 I suspect tat the Booker Little is the MOMA recording with Teddy Edwards and Booker Ervin. Many times reissued via a variety of labels. Often under the " In NY" title. . This was originally on the Warwick label. And it's Teddy Charles not Edwards), of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mule Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 There is also a Lee Morgan announved by Lone Hill... Those Dizzy Days Lee with the Gillespie Big Band???????????????? Perhaps it's DIZZY ATMOSPHERE which was orginally on Specialty.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 This is yet another Disconforme label (Definitive, Jazz Factory etc.). As one almost could have guessed from the excessive use of the word "Complete". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.D. Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 (edited) I suspect tat the Booker Little is the MOMA recording with Teddy Edwards and Booker Ervin. Many times reissued via a variety of labels. Often under the " In NY" title. . This was originally on the Warwick label. And it's Teddy Charles not Edwards), of course... Damn it Brownie... can't I have a beer in the afternoon.. well morning actually well it was a bloody mary Virgin really.... but I burnt the eggs What's the Criss??????????? I think the Ellington is the 2cds Live in Italy 1967 that I have on the Jazz Up label Edited April 8, 2004 by P.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 What's the Criss??????????? I think the Ellington is the 2cds Live in Italy 1967 that I have on the Jazz Up label No idea about the Criss but I'll be out looking for that one! I would not be surprised if that Lonehill label is part of the Disconforme group but there is no mention of the label or those albums on the FreshSounds/Blue Moon website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 It's listed on the Disconforme site: http://www.disconforme.com/pages2/lonehill...hilljazzcat.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 up, as these hit the streets tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 I suspect tat the Booker Little is the MOMA recording with Teddy Edwards and Booker Ervin. Many times reissued via a variety of labels. Often under the " In NY" title. . This was originally on the Warwick label. And it's Teddy Charles not Edwards), of course... Damn it Brownie... can't I have a beer in the afternoon.. well morning actually well it was a bloody mary Virgin really.... but I burnt the eggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 What would the Dolphy be? Could this be (the "first time all together on one CD" would point in that direction) the complete session with Donald Byrd and Nathan Davis? (I never had those) ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Could this be (the "first time all together on one CD" would point in that direction) the complete session with Donald Byrd and Nathan Davis? (I never had those) ubu Don't bother, they suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 I'll bet that the Dolphy is the IRON MAN dates, some of which came out on VeeJay (or was it Exodus?) as a "Memorial Album". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Could this be (the "first time all together on one CD" would point in that direction) the complete session with Donald Byrd and Nathan Davis? (I never had those) ubu Don't bother, they suck. Clear words... thanks! What's the best way to get the Iron Man stuff? I have a Charly disc, as well as a WestWind, they do overlap a bit, but I think I got all - however, it would definitively be nice to have that music on one disc, decently remastered, complete discography, and some good liners... ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 That stuff has been leased out and pirated so often... AFAIK, the one time that it was ALL released "under one roof" was on a 2-Lp set on Douglas (the label of the original producer), athough maybe Celluloid did it too later on. Seems like I remember something like that on Celluloid, but I already had the Douglas issue, so I didn't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 (edited) Could this be (the "first time all together on one CD" would point in that direction) the complete session with Donald Byrd and Nathan Davis? (I never had those) ubu Don't bother, they suck. Clear words... thanks! What's the best way to get the Iron Man stuff? I have a Charly disc, as well as a WestWind, they do overlap a bit, but I think I got all - however, it would definitively be nice to have that music on one disc, decently remastered, complete discography, and some good liners... ubu This is Eric Dolphy, is afaik the latest incarnation of the Iron Man stuff (2003). It's a two-CD set on Varese Sarabande. The sound quality is decent. http://www.cdconnection.com/bin/nph-search...=googericdolphy Edited April 26, 2004 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:.impossible Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I wouldn't say they suck. Donald Byrd isn't in top form, but the band does groove with the added percussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Since these are apparently Disconforme, can I assume that they're ripoffs and skip 'em? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 impossible - as a great Dolphy fan and growing completist... (you know how it continues)... I will have that stuff some day, anyway... Brad: the ARE Definitive, see here, the Lonehill page right on their website. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 is it fair to say that these are mainly rip-offs of rip-off bootlegs and that getting a burn somewhere is the prefered way to go? Is there any official release of that Dolphy material? (and is it available?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 is it fair to say that these are mainly rip-offs of rip-off bootlegs and that getting a burn somewhere is the prefered way to go? Is there any official release of that Dolphy material? (and is it available?) There isn't, as far as I know. And the next in your row of question then should be: was there ever an "official" release, in the sense that the artists got paid etc? And wouldn't there be more material around, as these recordings took place on at least three dates, as far as I remember? ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 This is strange... the Ayler Slug's came out posthumously on ESP. I have Dolphy on Douglas in a Casablanca (!!) pressing...Donald Byrd/Bookler Little "The Third World" on TCB ("editing & remixing: Joe Scarzia at Mercury Sound Studios")... how could these have all fallen under the same domain? Is it just like, well, we can't tell who, for sure, DOES own this stuff, so we may as well stake a claim to it also? Answer for Couw: yes, burns are the way to go. And if anyone gets the Ayler, why not send a couple $$$ over to Revenant in anticipation of the big AA box which is done w/the family's cooperation. clem How much music is there on the Slug's date? It's the only ESP I don't have in one or the other version. Only as much so it fits easy onto one CD? Or is there more? And who sends me a burn? B) ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 From Dusty Groove again: The title's possibly a bit misleading here -- as the record's not so much a memorial to Dolphy, but a repackaging of sides that were repackaged originally as such in the 60s! If that's not confusing enough, let us just explain that the set features 9 tracks from Dolphy's important recordings for Alan Douglas -- tunes that have shown up over the years in a variety of formats, but which are probably most famously known under the album titles Iron Man and Jitterbug Waltz. The format of the work is quite unusual -- and at times is closer to Dolphy's Blue Note recordings than most of his other work of the period -- with an approach that is both spiritual and angular, always touched with Dolphy's keen sense of modernism. Players include Clifford Jordan, Sonny Simmons, Prince Lasha, Richard Davis, and Bobby Hutcherson -- and titles include "Love Me", "Ode To CP", "Mandrake", "Iron Man", "Burning Spear", and "Music Matador". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Well, too bad about these so-called reissues, including those Dizzy Days. Would have liked to have had them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Has anyone picked up the Criss? Supposed to be unreleased stuff??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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