Rooster_Ties Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Joe said: Crying out for a proper box set, I'd say! Lord yes!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Joe said: Crying out for a proper box set, I'd day! you mean a proper or "Proper" box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 8 hours ago, romualdo said: you mean a proper or "Proper" box? the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 AFAIK, the Proper Boxes are a thing of the distant past. Someone like Fresh Sound could do a great job on a Teddy Charles set if they had a mind to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 Fresh Sounds makes the trains run on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 2 hours ago, felser said: Someone like Fresh Sound could do a great job on a Teddy Charles set if they had a mind to do so. https://www.freshsoundrecords.com/teddy-charles-albums/4648-the-complete-tentet-vibrations-digipack-edition-.html https://www.freshsoundrecords.com/teddy-charles-albums/4411-adventures-in-california.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) Tentet arrived today and I just finished listening. This stuff is right up my alley: Postwar Twilight Zone jazz, along with some moody private-eye jazz sounding tracks. I am kind of amazed that it has taken me this long to find Teddy Charles, but better late than never! This will pair nicely on a playlist with Duane Tatro's Jazz for Moderns! Edited September 19, 2022 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: Tentet arrived today and I just finished listening. This stuff is right up my alley: Postwar Twilight Zone jazz, along with some moody private-eye jazz sounding tracks. I am kind of amazed that it has taken me this long to find Teddy Charles, but better late than never! This will pair nicely on a playlist with Duane Tatro's Jazz for Moderns! Jealous that you're hearing Tentet for the first time! Such a great record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: Tentet arrived today and I just finished listening. This stuff is right up my alley: Postwar Twilight Zone jazz, along with some moody private-eye jazz sounding tracks. I am kind of amazed that it has taken me this long to find Teddy Charles, but better late than never! This will pair nicely on a playlist with Duane Tatro's Jazz for Moderns! Indeed, very similar. All pretty serious too, not just mood music, though it can serve that purpose. George Russell's "Lydian M-1" is a high light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: George Russell's "Lydian M-1" is a high light. Agreed! On first listen, that stuck out, along with the opening track, and also "You Go to My Head." I had it on in the background while I was working, so I couldn't give it my undivided. Edited September 19, 2022 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 How come nobody's mentioned Gil Evans's arrangements for Tentet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, medjuck said: How come nobody's mentioned Gil Evans's arrangements for Tentet? As for me, I haven't had a chance to absorb who arranged what! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, medjuck said: How come nobody's mentioned Gil Evans's arrangements for Tentet? Perhaps in part because the instrumentation -- particularly the rather insistent timbre of Charles' vibes -- isn't well suited to Gil's typically more evanescent sound world. Thus the sound of the Tenet per se tends to predominate on the tracks Gill arranged; though the opening of "You Go to My Head," with its echo of the opening of "Boplicity," certainly bears his fingerprint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 I think Jimmy Raney’s guitar — both his particular playing, and also (and maybe especially) the timbre of guitar/his-guitar — are a pretty significant part of the overall sound of much of the Tentet album, and the two most key tracks from Word For Bird (which are included as bonus tracks on some Tentet releases on CD). His playing (and sound) — along with Charles’ vibes — really give the the entire proceedings quite a different character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said: His playing (and sound) — along with Charles’ vibes — really give the the entire proceedings quite a different character. Yes, the guitar and vibes give it that air of mid-century futurism! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 On 17/09/2022 at 11:57 PM, mikeweil said: https://www.freshsoundrecords.com/teddy-charles-albums/4648-the-complete-tentet-vibrations-digipack-edition-.htm great pic!! - looks like there are two Art Farmers present - who is that just to the left of Mal Waldron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 hours ago, romualdo said: great pic!! - looks like there are two Art Farmers present - who is that just to the left of Mal Waldron? Art's twin, bassist Addison Farmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 57 minutes ago, Joe said: Art's twin, bassist Addison Farmer. He also had a nephew, his name is Julius Farmer and he is also a bassist. I heard him on some ocasion here in Austria. Who of them is Teddy Charles. I never saw a picture of him but liked his passionate vibe playing on many of the fifties albums, like on that "Blue Moods" from Miles, with Mingus and Elvin Jones and no piano, or "Miles Davis-Lee Konitz" where he plays on side B, and I think there was also a Wardell Gray album on Prestige, where he plays. I think I heard his vibe just in my beginnings, when those Prestige albums where easy to buy. But I never saw him pictured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 54 minutes ago, Gheorghe said: Who of them is Teddy Charles. I never saw a picture of him but liked his passionate vibe playing on many of the fifties albums, like on that "Blue Moods" from Miles, with Mingus and Elvin Jones and no piano, or "Miles Davis-Lee Konitz" where he plays on side B, and I think there was also a Wardell Gray album on Prestige, where he plays. I think I heard his vibe just in my beginnings, when those Prestige albums where easy to buy. But I never saw him pictured. The guy with the glasses in the very front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Gheorghe said: I think there was also a Wardell Gray album on Prestige, where he plays. I think I heard his vibe just in my beginnings, when those Prestige albums where easy to buy. That actually was a Teddy Charles session. Here is a photo. https://www.jazzwax.com/2008/12/teddy-charles-o.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 Wasn't he a boatsman or something? Had a yacht that he sailed to Newport? Something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 Yes. He is interviewed on his boat in later years in the Jackie Paris documentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, mikeweil said: What is his preference in wine, beyond red? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Joe said: Art's twin, bassist Addison Farmer. never knew Art & Addison were twins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 9/15/2022 at 6:35 PM, felser said: You can get the whole 'Word From Bird' CD for under $10 - just go that route. Well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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