[ghost of miles]

Which ones do you plan to pick up? I know I'm snagging Al Grey's SNAP YOUR FINGERS and J.J. Johnson's J.J.'S BROADWAY right out of the gate.

[Free For All]

ghost of miles, on Sep 4 2003, 10:55 PM, said:

Which ones do you plan to pick up?  I know I'm snagging Al Grey's SNAP YOUR FINGERS and J.J. Johnson's J.J.'S BROADWAY right out of the gate.

Ditto. I actually have never heard either one of these, so I'm psyched.

GoM, you a trombone fan?

[ghost of miles]

Free For All, on Sep 4 2003, 10:59 PM, said:

ghost of miles, on Sep 4 2003, 10:55 PM, said:

Which ones do you plan to pick up?  I know I'm snagging Al Grey's SNAP YOUR FINGERS and J.J. Johnson's J.J.'S BROADWAY right out of the gate.

Ditto. I actually have never heard either one of these, so I'm psyched.

GoM, you a trombone fan?

Probably no more so than the other instruments, but I do seem to be gravitating towards more 'bone players these days. White Lightning aka Barak is the big 'bone fan round these parts--hope he checks in soon after his Alaska sojourn.

I'd like to find more moody, Moncur-like players to listen to as well.

[chris olivarez]

What are the other releases?

[Claude]

From Jazzmatazz:


Buddy Rich & Harry "Sweets" Edison - Buddy and Sweets (Verve LPR) Sept 9

Hugh Masakela - Grrr (Verve LPR) Sept 9

Al Grey - Snap Your Fingers (Verve/Argo LPR) Sept 9
? with Bobby Hutcherson and Herbie Hancock

J.J. Johnson - J.J.'s Broadway (Verve LPR) Sept 9

Jack Teagarden - Mis'ry and the Blues (Verve LPR) Sept 9

[Daniel A]

ghost of miles, on Sep 5 2003, 05:55 AM, said:

I know I'm snagging Al Grey's SNAP YOUR FINGERS and J.J. Johnson's J.J.'S BROADWAY right out of the gate.

I'll get those two, too! The only album I have on LP from this batch (and the only one I've heard at all for that matter) is J.J.'s Broadway, which is very fine. It should appeal to those who are interested in J.J.'s arrangements for big band, given that one can stand the rather massive vibrato of the five-trombone lineup. There are a few quartet tracks as well, where Hank Jones is actually audible; he appears on a few of the five-trombone tracks, but he's so deep down in the soundmix that he could just as well have been dispensed with alltogether.

I'm very much looking forward to hearing Bobby Hutcherson on the Grey disc! (Herbie Hancock does only play on the last three tracks, though. Otherwise it's Floyd Morris on piano - who's that?)

[jazzbo]

I haven't heard the Masakela, but these are all fine choices. . . . I'm looking forward to the Teagarden (a clean copy at last!) and the Al Grey will NOT disappoint!

[Dan Gould]

Lon is correct-the Al Grey is definitely a winner.

[Brad]

Thanks for the recs. I wasn't sure about these until I saw this thread. What about the Buddy Rich one. Any thoughts on that one. I'll pick up the JJ and Al Grey for sure (I don't have any Al recordings). This groups looks like a bone delight.

[jpmosu]

Picked up a copy of Maskela's *Grrrrr.*

It's definitely worthwhile and unlike anything that's in my collection, but I do have a minor complaint: I'm not always crazy about Masekela's tone. It's almost too rough at times, and I'm wondering if anyone else hears this.

Maybe's it's just sleep deprivation...

[JohnS]

I can also recommend the Al Grey. Just discovered I have seven tracks from the sessions on an Italian 2lp set. Al Grey doesn't hog the limelight, Billy Mitchell and Bobby Hutcherson get plenty of solo space too. An excellent set.

[DrJ]

Count me in too for the JJ, Al Grey, Teagarden, Sweets, and the Masakela for sure...er, I guess that means all of them! ^_^

This will be my first exposure to Masakela, but reading the reviews for this one in AMG got me pretty stoked about hearing it.

This post has been edited by DrJ: 10 September 2003 - 09:13 AM

[jazzbo]

I haven't heard this Masakela, but as regards his tone. . . I can hear what you may be hearing as roughness. . . it's part of his unique sound that is also a sort of "African" trumpet sound that I heard in southern Africa in the sixties. . . .

[Joe]

Dave Burns siting on the Grey SNAP YOUR FINGERS, FWIW. (Worth a lot ot me, actually).

Definitely picking up the Rich / Edison date. Here's the info on it:

Buddy Rich
Harry "Sweets" Edison
Jimmy Rowles
Barney Kessel
John Simmons

1. Yellow Rose Of Brooklyn
2. Easy Does It
3. All Sweets
4. Nice Work If You Can Get It
5. Barney's Bugle
6. Now's The Time
7. You're Getting To Be A Habit With Me

[jpmosu]

jazzbo, on Sep 10 2003, 10:41 AM, said:

I haven't heard this Masakela, but as regards his tone. . . I can hear what you may be hearing as roughness. . . it's part of his unique sound that is also a sort of "African" trumpet sound that I heard in southern Africa in the sixties. . . .

Yes, I suspect my response to Masekela is a typical response to the new & different. It may just grow on me.

After all, the first time I saw *Queer Eye for the Straight Guy,* I thought it was annoying. Now I won't miss it.

[ghost of miles]

jazzbo, on Sep 10 2003, 09:41 AM, said:

I haven't heard this Masakela

I'll bet you have, Lon, without realizing it... I've heard the Byrds' "So You Want to Be a Rock 'n Roll" star for years, ever since I was a kid, and only recently when I was studying the liner notes to one of their re-issues did I learn that it was Masakela on trumpet!
Was Mel Torme's TORME supposed to be part of this round? Hopefully it's coming in the October batch... Supposed to be a damned fine Torme record (yes, I am a fan ^_^ ).

[desertblues]

Picked up the Buddy & Sweets yesterday, it's a good 'un! Only one lengthy drum solo (the 1st track) and great playing by Rich, Sweets and Barney Kessel throughout-nice price too (11.99 at Borders). Worthwhile, imho.
B)

[P.D.]

desertblues, on Sep 12 2003, 08:01 PM, said:

Picked up the Buddy & Sweets yesterday, it's a good 'un! Only one lengthy drum solo (the 1st track) and great playing by Rich, Sweets and Barney Kessel throughout-nice price too (11.99 at Borders). Worthwhile, imho.
B)

However verve in their inimitable fashion left off Willow Weep for me that could have fit quite nicely on the disc, giving us the complete session.

Probably left off the vinyl due to time limits, it could have easily fit on the CD..

It was issued on a variety of comps.. so it wasn't so bad it should be hidden.

BTW Sweets at the Haig has been released in Europe by the Disconforme villains.
No doubt soon to show up over here.

It's a very nice Sweets set

[jazzbo]

I guess I should have said "THIS Masakela" as I've heard plenty, but not this one.

Queer Eye. . .I still find them pretty annoying (I've only seen the episodes that NBC broadcast; still don't have cable or plan to). . .but my wife loves them. I'll grant they are entertaining. . .but annoying. I'd hate to be in the same room with them for long!

[montg]

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However verve in their inimitable fashion left off Willow Weep for me that could have fit quite nicely on the disc, giving us the complete session

Interesting. Even when Verve does something right, they don't do it right, if you know what I mean.

[P.D.]

montg, on Sep 13 2003, 10:18 AM, said:

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However verve in their inimitable fashion left off Willow Weep for me that could have fit quite nicely on the disc, giving us the complete session

Interesting. Even when Verve does something right, they don't do it right, if you know what I mean.

That's exactly what I meant.....

I Just love the whole "lets make these look japanese so they'll sell" mentality of the packaging.

In the Bush days... you'd think they'd be proud to be American :rolleyes:

BTW there is more than one extended drum solo on the Sweets album.. Barney's Bugle is about 9 mins long and but would be more appropriately titled "Rich's Rattle"

Maybe Desertblues didn't get past the first track

This post has been edited by P.D.: 13 September 2003 - 10:31 AM

[montg]

This may be a bit off topic, but has Verve ever released on CD "Sweets" with Ben Webster, Barney Kessell, Jimmy Rowles etc.?

[P.D.]

montg, on Sep 13 2003, 11:23 AM, said:

This may be a bit off topic, but has Verve ever released on CD "Sweets" with Ben Webster, Barney Kessell, Jimmy Rowles etc.?

This came up on AAJ recently.
Sweets and Ben made two albums for verve under Edison leadership ( they were together on others led by Rich, Billie etc)
Sweets was the first.. it does not seem to have had a CD reissue.

The second " Gee Baby Ain't I Good to You" was included in the 2CD set.. " The Soul Of Ben Webster"

it was coupled with the Title album, plus the Hodges Blues A Plenty

Wow 3LP's on 2CDs..INCLUDING unissued material !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All for about $15.00 at your friendly record emporium !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AH THOSE WERE THE DAYS

What Happened verve??????? :o :( :wacko:

This post has been edited by P.D.: 13 September 2003 - 11:54 AM