Hardbopjazz
Jun 22 2004, 06:38 AM
He is playing this week in NYC. I have nothing of his as a leader. Any recommendations what to pick up first?
brownie
Jun 22 2004, 06:48 AM
If you have to have only one Slide Hamption, get the 'Silver Salvation' album that came out on Atlantic. It's been reissued on Collectables.
Beautiful album with solos by Freddie Hubbard and George Coleman among others.
Hardbopjazz
Jun 22 2004, 06:50 AM
Thanks, that will be the one I'll start with.
Dan Gould
Jun 22 2004, 06:58 AM
Except that its "Sister Salvation"
Hardbopjazz
Jun 22 2004, 07:03 AM
Yes, I noticed it was "Sister Salvation".
king ubu
Jun 22 2004, 07:05 AM
You might be able to find a cheap copy of "Exodus", an album that was part of the recent Jazz in Paris series. Great sidemen, there, too, such as couw's favourite trumpet player Richard Williams, Sangrey's favourite tenor man George Coleman (you know, that's that Alexander-clone guy...

)
A fun disc, for sure!
ubu
brownie
Jun 22 2004, 08:12 AM
| QUOTE (Dan Gould @ Jun 22 2004, 06:58 AM) |
Except that its "Sister Salvation" |
Oh Brother! Wonder where my mind was when I posted...
jazzbo
Jun 22 2004, 08:16 AM
Two very good recommendations there! Sister Salvation was (along with Charles Bell's and Leo Wright's first Atlantic lps) among my first three jazz lps I ever owned and I still get chills when I hear the Hampton lp!
Dan Gould
Jun 22 2004, 08:17 AM
| QUOTE (brownie @ Jun 22 2004, 09:12 AM) |
| QUOTE (Dan Gould @ Jun 22 2004, 06:58 AM) | Except that its "Sister Salvation" |
Oh Brother! Wonder where my mind was when I posted... |
Well,
Silver's Sister Sadie has been known to be instrumental in finding
salvation.
Clunky
Jun 22 2004, 08:52 AM
Slide's one in the "Americans in Paris" (EMI France) set is excellent- I forget its title but it's raw and powerful.
paul secor
Jun 22 2004, 08:54 AM
A Slide Hampton session I've enjoyed over the years is World of Trombones (now on a Black Lion CD). It's Slide Hampton leading a nine trombone choir accompanied by a rhythm section. Perhaps not typical Slide Hampton, but it's a good listen.
If you read the Penguin Guide to Jazz, you'll see it only merits a so-so rating. My ears tell me otherwise, and I always trust my ears over their words.
Dan Gould
Jun 22 2004, 09:04 AM
| QUOTE (paul secor @ Jun 22 2004, 09:54 AM) |
| If you read the Penguin Guide to Jazz, you'll see it only merits a so-so rating. My ears tell me otherwise, and I always trust my ears over their words. |
Who wouldn't trust their own ears?
Heck, I'd trust your ears ahead of theirs almost any day of the week.
JSngry
Jun 22 2004, 09:06 AM
| QUOTE (Clunky @ Jun 22 2004, 08:52 AM) |
Slide's one in the "Americans in Paris" (EMI France) set is excellent- I forget its title but it's raw and powerful. |
I think that's the EXODUS side. EX-cellent stuff!
I'm really fond of this one too:

Check out the lineup:
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=U...l=Aitf3zfj7eh5kDexter's A DAY IN COPENHAGEN & Mobley's THE FLIP are both sideman dates that dhow him to good advantage.
And as far as his writing goes, sometimes it gets a little heavy-handed for my tastes, but sometimes not. Dexter's SOPHISTICATED GIANT might be a good place to start, aside from his own dates.
There's a Fresh Sounds issue that couples his Strand & Charlie Parker Records dates that is pretty good too. You get Booker Little, George Coleman, Freddie Hubbard, and others on there. Pretty decent stuff!
jlhoots
Jun 22 2004, 09:08 AM
Ultimately all of the octet recordings are worth getting.
He's also involved in a major way in the latest VJO CD.
Clunky
Jun 22 2004, 09:10 AM
| QUOTE (JSngry @ Jun 22 2004, 03:06 PM) |
| QUOTE (Clunky @ Jun 22 2004, 08:52 AM) | Slide's one in the "Americans in Paris" (EMI France) set is excellent- I forget its title but it's raw and powerful. |
I think that's the EXODUS side. EX-cellent stuff!
|
wrong series ( Exodus is in the JiP series from Universal)
the one I'm thinking of has Joakim Kuhn thundering away on the piano and if I remember correctly Jenny-Clarke on bass
JSngry
Jun 22 2004, 09:13 AM
Oooh, haven't heard that one. Sounds like I should!
DMP
Jun 22 2004, 09:21 AM
I'm lukewarm on "Sister Salvation," but the "Exodus" title is very good. My favorite - and a good deal - is the "Collectables" "two-fer" of "Jazz With a Twist" and "Explosion" - similar set-up to "Salvation"' but (to my ears) livelier.
king ubu
Jun 22 2004, 09:22 AM
More on the Americans Swinging in Paris releases
here.
I don't own any so far, but I've had an earful of the Hampton at a store once, and I did like what I heard!

Slide Hampton - tb
Joachim Kühn - p
Niels-Henning Orsted Pedersen - b
Philly Joe Jones - d
Can't link directly to the album, as it's one of those stupid flash sites.
Here's the Exodus cover:

ubu
king ubu
Jun 22 2004, 09:24 AM
| QUOTE (DMP @ Jun 22 2004, 04:21 PM) |
| I'm lukewarm on "Sister Salvation," but the "Exodus" title is very good. My favorite - and a good deal - is the "Collectables" "two-fer" of "Jazz With a Twist" and "Explosion" - similar set-up to "Salvation"' but (to my ears) livelier. |
As I'm already at it:


No one mentioned this so far:

ubu
jazzbo
Jun 22 2004, 09:28 AM
If you want to sample his writing and arranging skills for BIG BOLD BAND, pick up almost any Maynard Ferguson Roulette. Man. . . !
ghost of miles
Jun 22 2004, 11:31 AM
| QUOTE (king ubu @ Jun 22 2004, 07:05 AM) |
You might be able to find a cheap copy of "Exodus", an album that was part of the recent Jazz in Paris series. Great sidemen, there, too, such as couw's favourite trumpet player Richard Williams, Sangrey's favourite tenor man George Coleman (you know, that's that Alexander-clone guy... ) A fun disc, for sure!
ubu |
Just picked this up at a half-off sale!
danasgoodstuff
Jun 22 2004, 01:11 PM
Brownie:
Perhaps you thought/wrote "silver Salvation" under the influence of Williams Jennings Bryan's "Cross of Gold" speech? (I think it was recorded in a recreation by Bryon years later.)
JohnS
Jun 22 2004, 01:15 PM
None of the octet recordings will disappoint but for my money it has to be "Exodus" by a nose followed by "Sister Salvation".
Fresh Sound have a two lps on one cd of rarer items by the octet but on my copy the music has been transferred from lp and it shows.
The sound on the "Americans Swinging In Paris" cd has a dreadful accoustic spoiling what could have been an interesting date.
sheldonm
Jun 22 2004, 02:04 PM
There are very few of Slide's recording I don't dig.
As far as the American Swinging in Paris series go, when's the next batch coming out???
couw
Jun 22 2004, 02:14 PM
| QUOTE (JohnS @ Jun 22 2004, 08:15 PM) |
| The sound on the "Americans Swinging In Paris" cd has a dreadful accoustic spoiling what could have been an interesting date. |
I used some tracks of this series on my BFT and did some level correction in a wav editor. These are all extremely clipped, resulting in a very harsh, very brittle sound. Someone gave up a lot on sound quality for gain in volume.
brownie
Jun 22 2004, 02:39 PM
| QUOTE (danasgoodstuff @ Jun 22 2004, 01:11 PM) |
Brownie:
Perhaps you thought/wrote "silver Salvation" under the influence of Williams Jennings Bryan's "Cross of Gold" speech? (I think it was recorded in a recreation by Bryon years later.) |
No, that's not it. But I would have plenty to tell a shrink about this slip if I saw one. Don't fell the need to

A better edit could fixed this!
Michael Fitzgerald
Jun 22 2004, 10:44 PM
My website has a complete discography of Slide. URL below.
I love the Octet - my favorite could well be the Two Sides of Slide album on Charlie Parker, now on 2-fer CD with the Strand album Horn of Plenty.
That Mellow-dy cheapie CD is quite good - at $5 or so, I've picked up several and passed them on to friends.
Mike
clifford_thornton
Jun 23 2004, 12:45 AM
How did that quartet with Joachim Kuhn come out originally, anyway?
I've got a nice big band date on Supraphon featuring Jiri Stivin, John Surman, Barre Phillips and Stu Martin among others, but the small-group stuff is a little more attractive to me. These rec's should be helpful...
Michael Fitzgerald
Jun 23 2004, 08:49 AM
Originally on Pathe LP 10156 - see my discography.
Mike
robviti
Jun 23 2004, 09:05 AM
no one's mentioned this gem yet, with clifford jordan, cedar walton, david williams, and billy higgins.
brownie
Jun 23 2004, 10:40 AM
or the Curtis Fuller 'Two Bones' BN album where Slide Hampton confronts his skills with Fuller. The rhythm section was Sonny Clark, George Tucker, Charles Persip.
This has not been reissued since its original release in Japan in 1980. That LP listed Al Harewood instead of Persip as the drummer.
The session was included in the Fuller Mosaic but it could stand a fresher reissue.
paul secor
Jun 23 2004, 08:46 PM
| QUOTE (brownie @ Jun 23 2004, 10:40 AM) |
or the Curtis Fuller 'Two Bones' BN album where Slide Hampton confronts his skills with Fuller. The rhythm section was Sonny Clark, George Tucker, Charles Persip. This has not been reissued since its original release in Japan in 1980. That LP listed Al Harewood instead of Persip as the drummer. The session was included in the Fuller Mosaic but it could stand a fresher reissue. |
I have the Japanese LP and it's been a favorite of mine over the years. Didn't think to mention it because it's only been available on that LP and as part of the Mosaic box, and both are long out of print. brownie is right. Blue note should do a reissue - it's a fine session.
mjzee
Jun 18 2005, 12:39 PM
I'm bringing this thread up because I wanted to start a thread on Slide's arranging skills, but thought I'd extend this one.
I put on Junior Cook's "Good Cookin'" (now part of 32 Jazz's "Senior Cookin'"). Without checking the liner notes, I could immediately tell Slide's arranging - he has a distinctive sound, one that I really dig. Tight, solid arrangements of the head, but leaving lots of room for blowing. And, refreshingly, he doesn't call attention to himself.
Another date in this league is Dexter's "A Day in Copenhagen." Does anyone else have favorites of Slide's arranging?
Michael Fitzgerald
Jun 18 2005, 12:52 PM
Some of the very best writing is for the Slide Hampton Octet, back in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Amazingly, all of their albums but one have made it to CD. The basic concept of the group was 2 trumpets, 2 saxophones, 2 trombones, 2 rhythm. Slide could make this sound like a big band and there was always plenty of solo space because it really *wasn't* a big band. The Fresh Sound CD that combines "Horn Of Plenty" and "Two Sides Of Slide" is magnificent.
Of course, at the same time, Slide was working with Maynard Ferguson, whose band was a bit bigger (but still not a full big band): 4 trumpets, 4 saxophones, 2 trombones, 3 rhythm. Some of the same pieces were in the books of both.
Mike
BTW, the Octet sometimes wasn't an Octet, strictly speaking. Added trumpet, tuba, piano, percussion, etc.
mgraham333
Jun 18 2005, 07:59 PM
QUOTE(jazzshrink @ Jun 23 2004, 08:05 AM)
no one's mentioned this gem yet, with clifford jordan, cedar walton, david williams, and billy higgins.

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Roots is one of my Slide favorites.... it also happens to be one of Slide's. He told me so in Chicago when I saw him in May.
mrjazzman
Jun 19 2005, 04:00 AM
my favorite slide playing/writing is on "A Day In Copenhagen", of course you get the added bonus of having my favorite ts player Dexter Gordon.........mrjazzman
sheldonm
Jun 19 2005, 10:48 AM
Here's a photograph of Slide playing at the Indy Jazz Festival (Tribute to Jobim) yesterday!
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