shrugs
Aug 26 2006, 02:03 PM
Grateful Dead - January 30, 1978
Uptown Theatre - Chicago, IL
if the Franklin's don't get you......
orchiddoctor
Aug 30 2006, 01:07 PM
DRUM ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL:
And they're off to the races! Rhino's first release. Pure Jerry, all Jerry, nothing but Jerry, the first half being retreads of course!
http://stores.musictoday.com/store/product...OMBO&sfid=2
jazzbo
Aug 30 2006, 01:08 PM
Just got a "jerry-gram" that Rhino is putting out a new two cd "Best of Jerry Garcia" that has one studio best of, and a live disc with some previously unreleased stuff.
PLUS of course by preordering there are two bonus discs you get, one a complete interview of Jerry by Dr. Demento, another more live material considered for but bumped from the second disc of the "Best of" two cd.
And intriguingly at the bottom of the email is THIS:
Grateful Dead Vault News
Stay tuned for upcoming details regarding a very special Grateful Dead Vault release on the horizon for late this year. We look forward to sending production updates as they develop in the weeks ahead!
jazzbo
Aug 30 2006, 01:23 PM
Wow, our posts were one minute apart with the news!
orchiddoctor
Aug 30 2006, 03:00 PM
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Aug 30 2006, 02:23 PM) [snapback]548091[/snapback]
Wow, our posts were one minute apart with the news!
The news or the snooze? Half the disc is a best of--we already had the complete box--and a selection of live stuff? Bonus cd with only three tunes? Can't do better than that?
Not off to a good start.
How'z about a best of Pigpen?
jazzbo
Aug 30 2006, 04:05 PM
Well, yeah. But I found this pretty interesting, at the bottom of the email I received:
Grateful Dead Vault News
Stay tuned for upcoming details regarding a very special Grateful Dead Vault release on the horizon for late this year. We look forward to sending production updates as they develop in the weeks ahead!
I wonder if that is the box set that mysteriously hand an order page and then did not appear earlier in the year?
orchiddoctor
Aug 30 2006, 06:18 PM
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Aug 30 2006, 05:05 PM) [snapback]548175[/snapback]
Well, yeah. But I found this pretty interesting, at the bottom of the email I received:
Grateful Dead Vault News
Stay tuned for upcoming details regarding a very special Grateful Dead Vault release on the horizon for late this year. We look forward to sending production updates as they develop in the weeks ahead!
I wonder if that is the box set that mysteriously hand an order page and then did not appear earlier in the year?
Maybe. But Rhino seems to like to reissue/repackage stuff.
Matthew
Aug 30 2006, 06:53 PM
QUOTE(orchiddoctor @ Aug 30 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]548237[/snapback]
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Aug 30 2006, 05:05 PM) [snapback]548175[/snapback]
Well, yeah. But I found this pretty interesting, at the bottom of the email I received:
Grateful Dead Vault News
Stay tuned for upcoming details regarding a very special Grateful Dead Vault release on the horizon for late this year. We look forward to sending production updates as they develop in the weeks ahead!
I wonder if that is the box set that mysteriously hand an order page and then did not appear earlier in the year?
Maybe. But Rhino seems to like to reissue/repackage stuff.
Maybe
Filmore West 1969 complete set? After all,
Rhino has never released the set...
jazzbo
Aug 30 2006, 07:40 PM
QUOTE(orchiddoctor @ Aug 30 2006, 06:18 PM) [snapback]548237[/snapback]
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Aug 30 2006, 05:05 PM) [snapback]548175[/snapback]
Well, yeah. But I found this pretty interesting, at the bottom of the email I received:
Grateful Dead Vault News
Stay tuned for upcoming details regarding a very special Grateful Dead Vault release on the horizon for late this year. We look forward to sending production updates as they develop in the weeks ahead!
I wonder if that is the box set that mysteriously hand an order page and then did not appear earlier in the year?
Maybe. But Rhino seems to like to reissue/repackage stuff.
YES, but Rhino is now the outlet for the boys. .. they were thinking of putting out another ten cd set.. . maybe they are primed to have Rhino do it. . . . It's my insane little hope.
orchiddoctor
Aug 30 2006, 11:00 PM
QUOTE(Matthew @ Aug 30 2006, 07:53 PM) [snapback]548249[/snapback]
QUOTE(orchiddoctor @ Aug 30 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]548237[/snapback]
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Aug 30 2006, 05:05 PM) [snapback]548175[/snapback]
Well, yeah. But I found this pretty interesting, at the bottom of the email I received:
Grateful Dead Vault News
Stay tuned for upcoming details regarding a very special Grateful Dead Vault release on the horizon for late this year. We look forward to sending production updates as they develop in the weeks ahead!
I wonder if that is the box set that mysteriously hand an order page and then did not appear earlier in the year?
Maybe. But Rhino seems to like to reissue/repackage stuff.
Maybe
Filmore West 1969 complete set? After all,
Rhino has never released the set...

orchiddoctor
Aug 30 2006, 11:03 PM
News Flash:
8-3-06 A.P
Rhino Records has announced a release of a ten box set from the Grateful Dead titled "Me and My Uncle." It will consist of 5 cds with 75 selected live takes of the title track, plus a bonus disc of alternate mixes and audience takes. It is part of a larger series they are calling "Pure Bobby."
jazzbo
Aug 31 2006, 05:45 AM
Shoot. I was hoping they'd start that series with the "Cassidy" set!
orchiddoctor
Aug 31 2006, 08:32 AM
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Aug 31 2006, 06:45 AM) [snapback]548389[/snapback]
Shoot. I was hoping they'd start that series with the "Cassidy" set!
Lon--you are so out of it. G.D. productions released that three years ago.
jazzbo
Aug 31 2006, 08:36 AM
Damn! And now it's as out of print as the Fillmore Set, and probably commanding even LARGER prices!
orchiddoctor
Aug 31 2006, 11:18 AM
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Aug 31 2006, 09:36 AM) [snapback]548436[/snapback]
Damn! And now it's as out of print as the Fillmore Set, and probably commanding even LARGER prices!

I can get a copy of it if you like--"fo' a dollah and a quarter!"
jazzbo
Aug 31 2006, 11:45 AM

Weird Dead moment of the day: I was listening to some Dead rehearsal tapes of 1975 (I think for the SNACK thang) and all of a sudden Weir says "Okay for a quarter: who wrote "Misty"?"
This leads to some discussion of Erroll Garner and how he couldn't read music and even led to Jerry playing "Misty" on his guitar. . . . If I had noticed that the last time I heard those tracks, about a year ago, I've totally forgotten!
orchiddoctor
Aug 31 2006, 12:26 PM
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Aug 31 2006, 12:45 PM) [snapback]548521[/snapback]

Weird Dead moment of the day: I was listening to some Dead rehearsal tapes of 1975 (I think for the SNACK thang) and all of a sudden Weir says "Okay for a quarter: who wrote "Misty"?"
This leads to some discussion of Erroll Garner and how he couldn't read music and even led to Jerry playing "Misty" on his guitar. . . . If I had noticed that the last time I heard those tracks, about a year ago, I've totally forgotten!
Geez, Lon, that rehersal track is featured on the Rhino Box Set, "Noodling with the Dead," a collection of false starts, tune ups, stall tactics, and teases, Vol. 5, the Lost Year. Jerry's comments can be heard on the bonus cd, "Rare words from the stage 1975-1977."
Interesting enough, there is an alleged audience tape from 9-08-74 at the Jack-in-In-The-Box Theater in Anniston Alabama on which Jerry plays a single chord that may or may not be a tease of Garner's "Laura."
God, what a find that would be
Hot Ptah
Aug 31 2006, 02:23 PM
QUOTE(orchiddoctor @ Aug 31 2006, 12:26 PM) [snapback]548544[/snapback]
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Aug 31 2006, 12:45 PM) [snapback]548521[/snapback]

Weird Dead moment of the day: I was listening to some Dead rehearsal tapes of 1975 (I think for the SNACK thang) and all of a sudden Weir says "Okay for a quarter: who wrote "Misty"?"
This leads to some discussion of Erroll Garner and how he couldn't read music and even led to Jerry playing "Misty" on his guitar. . . . If I had noticed that the last time I heard those tracks, about a year ago, I've totally forgotten!
Geez, Lon, that rehersal track is featured on the Rhino Box Set, "Noodling with the Dead," a collection of false starts, tune ups, stall tactics, and teases, Vol. 5, the Lost Year. Jerry's comments can be heard on the bonus cd, "Rare words from the stage 1975-1977."
Interesting enough, there is an alleged audience tape from 9-08-74 at the Jack-in-In-The-Box Theater in Anniston Alabama on which Jerry plays a single chord that may or may not be a tease of Garner's "Laura."
God, what a find that would be

My favorite from that Noodling series is the five second version of the head of Mary Lou Williams' "Roll 'Em" on Vol. 3.
orchiddoctor
Aug 31 2006, 02:42 PM
You found the hidden track!
jazzbo
Aug 31 2006, 03:33 PM
Damn! You forget about the Dead for a few decades and look what happens!
coooltrane
Aug 31 2006, 04:55 PM
now listening to Sick Bits Vol 18 a 12-27-82 at the Oakland Coliseum.
A nice Brown-Eyed Woman on there !
Matthew
Aug 31 2006, 07:17 PM
Listening to a great concert: Grateful Dead Live at Hollywood Palladium on 1971-08-06. Band seems to be on fire for this one and in great spirits. They're even telling people where to stand for the best sound when they tape.
orchiddoctor
Aug 31 2006, 07:21 PM
[quote name='coooltrane' date='Aug 31 2006, 05:55 PM' post='548674']
now listening to Sick Bits Vol 18 a 12-27-82 at the Oakland Coliseum.
A nice Brown-Eyed Woman on there !
[/quote
Is that the one where Jerry sings the extra vowel in the third verse? "Cost two dollars and it burned like help."
jazzbo
Sep 1 2006, 06:00 AM
QUOTE(Matthew @ Aug 31 2006, 07:17 PM) [snapback]548713[/snapback]
Listening to a great concert: Grateful Dead Live at Hollywood Palladium on 1971-08-06. Band seems to be on fire for this one and in great spirits. They're even telling people where to stand for the best sound when they tape.
Yes, great concert!
vajerzy
Sep 1 2006, 06:10 AM
The only 1971 I have is the April, 1971 CD set from the Fillmore East- tie dye cover and I was listening to it driving to inspections yesterday- it's becoming one of my favorite CDs to listen to! I have to get some other 1971 shows-
Speaking of Box sets- how about a 5 CD set of Jerry solos ala Parker Mosaic?
Spontooneous
Sep 1 2006, 06:40 AM
You mean you don't have the 12-CD set of all the "China Cat Sunflower" choruses strung together?
AmirBagachelles
Sep 1 2006, 07:43 AM
There is speculation that John Oswald is now prepping a 3-CD plunderphonics set w/ all sorts of quirky Godchaux-era embellishments layered onto heated jams from 68-70. Imagine knowing in Nov-79 that Keith's forehead hitting the keys would compel 3,500 Deadheads to shell out yet again for the classic '68 suite. Count me in.
As Bob said on one hazy yet memorable occasion back then "If you see our bass player somewhere out there, won't you please send him home?"
Matthew
Sep 1 2006, 07:52 AM
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Sep 1 2006, 04:00 AM) [snapback]548894[/snapback]
QUOTE(Matthew @ Aug 31 2006, 07:17 PM) [snapback]548713[/snapback]
Listening to a great concert: Grateful Dead Live at Hollywood Palladium on 1971-08-06. Band seems to be on fire for this one and in great spirits. They're even telling people where to stand for the best sound when they tape.
Yes, great concert!
Do you, or anyone else, know where I can download the whole concert? I seems to me some of it has been edited out. This is what I have:
Bertha,
Playin' In The Band,
Loser,
Mr. Charlie,
Cumberland Blues,
Brokedown Palace,
Me And Bobby McGee,
Hard To Handle,
Casey Jones Saint Stephen, Truckin'-> Drums-> The Other One-> Me & My Uncle-> The Other One,
Deal,
Sugar Magnolia,
Morning Dew,
Turn On Your Love LightI like this year also, I'm going download all I can find from '71.
jazzbo
Sep 1 2006, 10:01 AM
QUOTE(Matthew @ Sep 1 2006, 07:52 AM) [snapback]548923[/snapback]
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Sep 1 2006, 04:00 AM) [snapback]548894[/snapback]
QUOTE(Matthew @ Aug 31 2006, 07:17 PM) [snapback]548713[/snapback]
Listening to a great concert: Grateful Dead Live at Hollywood Palladium on 1971-08-06. Band seems to be on fire for this one and in great spirits. They're even telling people where to stand for the best sound when they tape.
Yes, great concert!
Do you, or anyone else, know where I can download the whole concert? I seems to me some of it has been edited out. This is what I have:
Bertha,
Playin' In The Band,
Loser,
Mr. Charlie,
Cumberland Blues,
Brokedown Palace,
Me And Bobby McGee,
Hard To Handle,
Casey Jones Saint Stephen, Truckin'-> Drums-> The Other One-> Me & My Uncle-> The Other One,
Deal,
Sugar Magnolia,
Morning Dew,
Turn On Your Love LightI like this year also, I'm going download all I can find from '71.

HMMMMM. . . that is exactly the track list that I have. Probably from the same source. (Internet Archive in my case).
Matthew
Sep 1 2006, 11:05 AM
Yeah, same source -- Thanks for checking Lon.
Spontooneous
Sep 1 2006, 12:16 PM
A chunk of 8/6/71, from The Other One to Lovelight, is on Dick's Picks 35. The booklet says that's the only portion in the Vault.
J.H. Deeley
Sep 1 2006, 12:25 PM
RE: 8/6/71
The whole show is available as an audience recording w/ very good sound. The H2H on The Phil Zone cd is from this recording.
orchiddoctor
Sep 1 2006, 02:18 PM
Bertha,
Playin' In The Band,
Loser,
Mr. Charlie,
Cumberland Blues,
Brokedown Palace,
Me And Bobby McGee,
Hard To Handle,
Casey Jones Saint Stephen, Truckin'-> Drums-> The Other One-> Me & My Uncle-> The Other One,
Deal,
Sugar Magnolia,
Morning Dew,
Turn On Your Love Light
:
From Deadbase:
Bertha, Playin, Loser, Mr. Charlie, Cumberland, Brokedown, Bobby McGee, Hard To Handle, Casey Jones
2: St. Stephen, Truckin> Drums> Other One> Me & My Uncle> Other One, Deal, Sugar Magnolia, Morning Dew, Lovelight
That would be the whole concert as listed on dead base.
Matthew
Sep 1 2006, 02:32 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone
orchiddoctor
Sep 1 2006, 05:39 PM
In light of all these intriguing revelations about the rare dead cuts and splices, here's one for yez.
Mind you, I will have to move and change my identity--again--so listen up good. If you see no more posts from me, well, I took one for the team.
Some months ago there was an E-Bay auction featuring the toilet of one J. Garcia. Said auction produced much ridicule and sarcasm. Little did anyone know that the seat held a pair of microphones, placed there in 1986 by Dan Healy at the request of the Band. Jerry, as you may recall, was busy dying at the time, and the rest of the boys were concerned that the proverbial goose was going to lay a bad egg. So, knowing how Jerry loved to sing on the crapper, and realizing how much the Elvis estate lost by NOT bugging the King's throne, they slipped a couple of mics in there in case Jerry had a sudden onset of creativity. At first, all they could get were the offensive sounds of Mr. Garcia's baritone farts and other less savory noises. But, as time rolled by, they began to realize that there was something going on. First, they realized that he was practicing his scales. Then, a snippet of what appeared to be something resembling a possible song emerged. No--that was just the pepperoni "talking." But--wait--yes, it could not be mistaken; the incessant noodling began to form and transform and become--a song!! And what a song it was!!! Simple, yet punchy, with a great hook. Du-du, du-du, du-du, du-du. The beat went on. They sent the tapes to Jeffrey Norman and crew to have them anal yzed and filtered and decoded and screened for diginoise, and the results were sent back.
They could hear the master sing, albeit in a halting grunting manner, as if he were squeezing the very words out:
"Wild Thing, you make my heart sing, you make everything groovy."
And the man who won that auction? Rich beyond his wildest dreams.
Sure to appear on a Rhino bonus cd any day now.
Spontooneous
Sep 1 2006, 06:14 PM
The result sounds a lot like the octave divider that he was using on the guitar in '77 and '78.
orchiddoctor
Sep 1 2006, 07:12 PM
QUOTE(Spontooneous @ Sep 1 2006, 07:14 PM) [snapback]549172[/snapback]
The result sounds a lot like the octave divider that he was using on the guitar in '77 and '78.
Yes, yes, precisely. Then you do believe me! I am not insane. Well, okay, but . . . .
Tony Pusey
Sep 2 2006, 12:38 AM
Yes, so its true, finally established beyond any shadow of a doubt, prolonged exposure to the Dead does addle the brain!
orchiddoctor
Sep 2 2006, 08:06 AM
Some people just cannot recognize or appreciate true religion.
Quincy
Sep 9 2006, 02:14 PM
Started to post this in the "solo rock acts you might not have heard of" thread (or something like that), but it didn't feel right. And since it does feature Jerry on it....
David Crosby Billboard linkArticle highlights:
"David Crosby's five-decade career will be the subject of the boxed set "Voyage," due
Nov. 21 via Rhino. The same day, the label
will also release a CD/DVD edition of Crosby's 1971 solo debut, 'If I Could Only Remember My Name.'"
...and a jam with Jerry Garcia, "Kids and Dogs."...."Kids and Dogs" can also be found on the new "If I Could Only Remember My Name," which is offered in a 5.1 Surround Sound mix on the DVD alongside photos and rare video clips."
jazzbo
Sep 9 2006, 02:39 PM
I had heard this was scheduled for fall from a thread on AAJ. . . For some reason cduniverse has a preorder link for the box set, but no mention of the "If I Could Only Remember my Name" reissue.
orchiddoctor
Sep 9 2006, 02:50 PM
If I Could Only Remember my Name---what a delightful recording--done at the same time as American Beauty. Sweeeeet.
jazzbo
Sep 9 2006, 04:21 PM
Yes, this and "Blows Against the Empire" are my favorites of the "SF Clan" recordings.
orchiddoctor
Sep 9 2006, 05:32 PM
"Blows Against the Empire" :
"2,000 years of your Goddamn glory . . . . "
What are you anyway, Lon, some sort of radical hippie freak?
Jeeze: isn't this a jazz forum?
Oy vey.
jazzbo
Sep 10 2006, 07:57 AM
Well, I WAS a hippie radical freak, indeed. Briefly. Those were the days.
Now I'm just an old fart dreaming of the past!
coooltrane
Sep 12 2006, 03:13 PM
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Sep 10 2006, 07:57 AM) [snapback]552705[/snapback]
Well, I WAS a hippie radical freak, indeed. Briefly. Those were the days.
Now I'm just an old fart dreaming of the past!
i can see how radical hippie jazz belongs on a jazz forum.
orchiddoctor
Sep 12 2006, 04:07 PM
QUOTE(coooltrane @ Sep 12 2006, 04:13 PM) [snapback]553503[/snapback]
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Sep 10 2006, 07:57 AM) [snapback]552705[/snapback]
Well, I WAS a hippie radical freak, indeed. Briefly. Those were the days.
Now I'm just an old fart dreaming of the past!
i can see how radical hippie jazz belongs on a jazz forum.
Oddly enough, when I was in my twenties, MOST of the people my age who got into "Jazz" were refugees from the sixties. This would be mid 70's on, when the "free"/"avante guarde""whatever" thing was happening. Pure improvisation--Art Ensemble, Braxton, Sam Rivers, David Murray--tempered with sweet melodies--or not. That's why I still have a fondness for the Dead--they opened my ears up to other realms and possibilities of music. A lot of Black musicians quietly bemoaned the fact that the majority of the audience were white kids from the burbs.* But they had grown ears during their hippie years, and their minds had expanded--at least enough to become multicultural receptors.
*Disclaimer. I grew up in Manhattan. That made the ride downtown shorter.
jazzbo
Sep 12 2006, 05:51 PM
Well, I was into jazz before I was into the Dead. But Dead staples such as "Morning Dew" and "Stella Blue" and "Half-Step Mississippi Uptown Toodle-Oo" seemed unlike a lot of other rock songs I'd heard and had jazziness to them. (I remember more than once playing "Morning Dew" and "I Thought About You" by Miles back to back!) Then not long after the records got into my rotation I saw the Dead a few times, and they weren't like any other rock band I'd seen, and seemed to have more group inteaction and be more dedicated to improvising, again something of jazz in their work. . . .
But I fell out of listening and seeing them in the eighties; the last time I saw them was in Cleveland in 1980. . . I was shocked the Godchauxs weren't there and Brent was. . . . I'm glad I've rediscoverd them now. This year their music has been a big help to me. Positive, different, varied.
Tony Pusey
Sep 12 2006, 11:16 PM
Noit for the first time I am with Orchid here, first the Dead and then a looooong fruitless search forsomething else that could sustain my interest over time and be played back to back with Live Dead, then Miles Bitches, Ayler, Sun Ra-and never looked back. Still dig the Dead, 67-72 lots!
orchiddoctor
Sep 13 2006, 11:57 AM
QUOTE(Tony Pusey @ Sep 13 2006, 12:16 AM) [snapback]553612[/snapback]
Noit for the first time I am with Orchid here, first the Dead and then a looooong fruitless search forsomething else that could sustain my interest over time and be played back to back with Live Dead, then Miles Bitches, Ayler, Sun Ra-and never looked back. Still dig the Dead, 67-72 lots!
And I still dig the Ra and the Art Ensemble and can hear John McLaughlin on Miles' "Right Off" clear as a bell.
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