As far as Europe '72 official releases go I like Steppin' Out With the Grateful Dead the best. No overdubs, no fooling around w/ the mix, just as nature intended it to be. And some serious ass kicking jams to boot!

Agreed. Plus that bs cut in the Truckin'------Morning Dew where the let Phil hit a few bass notes to "end" the first part. To think that the whole piece is Truckin--The Other One--drums--Other One--Morning Dew--Other One--Sing Me Back Home. Obviously, that would have filled all six sides!! If any of en't heard the whole thing, by all means do so.

Other songs/dates
4-08 Cumberland Blues
4-14 Brown Eyed Women
5-03 China cat--Rider, Tennessee Jed, Jack Straw
5-04 Sugar Magnolia
5-24 It Hurts Me Too, You Win Again

From www.deadbase.com

Lon, now they've got you where they want you. You are doomed to spend the rest of your days downloading endlessly! Nyah, nyah!

Hey, I resemble that remark!

To one and all:

Have a happy and a safe Thanksgiving.

You too Bill! I'm thankful for our friendship.

Amen to that, bro.

Trying to blow fire--or at least hot air--into a fading thread.


Favorite show? Favorite attended show?

Objective on the first, subjective on the second..


My favorite:


Damn, I had to ask that! 3-01-69 or 2-14-70 come to mind. Wonderful abandon, flying by the seats of their pants. The gigs are about a year apart, but reflect the growth of the band from psychedellic cowboys to melow tunesmiths with monster, slightly more controlled jams.

Favorite show attended. I was at 2-14-70 (and yes, Owsley, there were two shows), and it was a scortcher. Everyone--I mean everyone, band included, was blown away. But my first show is my best memory. 1967 at the Cafe Au Go Go in New York. I had been exposed to the burgeoning counter culture by a few misfit friends, but listening to records and going into the belly of the beast were two different things.

The Village was vibrant with discovery, ripe with potential, ready to ignite. And ignite it did. While Frank Zappa held court upstairs as the house band at the Garrick Theater, the grimy, scroffy Dead, led by the Pig, were something to behold. The Cafe itself was down a flight of stairs that were painted Jackson Pollack style with day glo. Oh, I had smoked marijuana for the second or third time (I was 15), so this was like entering some sort of new dimension. Then the amps cranked up and the boys took out their artillery and bombarded us with a noise that seemed as if it were some sort of alien blessing. I remember Viola Lee Blues in particular--seemed to go one well past the usual 2 minute 59 mark--and everyone dancing frantically in a tribal stomp. The room was relatively samll--Lesh describes it in his book. We actually--literally--felt the music slam into us like waves.

Talk about yer epiphanies. I know that I was not alone in walking down the stairs, a curious middle class Manhattanite, and floating back up the stairs a few sets later, a born again hippie. Born again not just because of the music but because Captain Trips hung outside between sets smoking various substances and pontificating on the meaning of it all. And don't think that we didn't listen up.

I have the July 19, 1987 show.

It is not the worst I have heard, but it still solicits a few cringes from me.

Indeed it does. Of all things despite Kesey's presence on the scene I've heard it was a bottle of bourbon that is behind Bob's cringe inducing moments.

It was a beautiful sunny day in Eugene, and it sure was fun to see them all assembled on the stage together. There was the potential that something great could happen, it just didn't. Still a good time was had in person.

Favorite show = Louisville Freedom Hall June '74, great moments throughout but the depth and range of emotion throughout The Other One, Stella Blue, and Morning Dew is unmatched elsewhere, for me anyway. And Phil especially kills. I wish I could hear more keyboard on my old tape. This would be a great vault release if they could spiffy up the sound.

Favorite attended show = Cape Cod "weekend" October '79. A nice cold hockey rink to warm up, with lots of old friends and hot music. I am just picking the first show I saw the band really rip throughout, after about 15 good-but-not-great nights. Oh man, this was different. Blazing Dancin' > Franklin's Tower, Jack Straw and on and on, four consecutive hot sets. No Going Back. (How did I finish school????)

It must have been something to attend 2-14-70!

As I am just now getting familiar with the huge archive of Dead shows, it is too difficult for me to choose a favorite at this point in time.

When I found the archive, the first show that I looked for was 10/21/78 Winterland. Of all the shows that I attended, I found that one to be the most inspired and powerful. Listening to it now again for the first time since the live show confirms my feeling that it was a magical evening.

Of course, all the Dead shows that I attended fall into the 3-year period of 1976-1978. I did see Jerry with his band a number of times after that. (Actually, growing up in the Bay Area, I am fairly sure that I did see the Dead once in either 67 or 68. But since I can't even remember the venue, let alone the concert, I don't count that.)

Hollywood festival on their first trip to Europe, pretty much the standard Live Dead repertoire if i can remember correctly.. the show was supposed to be recorded on film for the BBC but the band laced the cameramen who immediately became true believers, needles to sew, nothing was filmed by the stoned technicians tho an audio recording was made, i recall hearing it at Rik Griffins exhibition at the Roundhouse.
Second fav show the Wemby stand as documented on Steppin Out/ Europe 72.

Yeah, Europe '72. Have I mentioned how much I love that run? Ad nauseum you say?

Some good choices. Always loved that Louisville show--as well as 12-31-78. Both were available a long time ago, so I got to them before I took a few decades off from listening to the band.

Wrong call Orchid, if I understand you correctly- some bright spark can come up with the date ,but their first trip to Yurrup was to play at the Hollywood festival, Newcastle-under-Lyme, otherwise famous as the break thru gig of Mungo Jerry!

No question about Newcastle! A good show it is.

Not the Euro 72 Newcastle show! I just checked, its May 1970. I have not heard the tape since 1976 or so, would make a fine Dick or whatever they will call them in future, Just for me, pretty please Rhino!

The Cow Palace show is available for pre-order.....

http://www.gdstore.com/store.asp?page=dept...p;dept_id=10601

I never attended a Dead show.....not because I'm young (I'm 45) but when I was in HS I had friends who were such HUGE Deadheads- so much so they were obnoxious about it and god forbid you liked any other band- so I hated the Dead because of them......so I went through other avenues of music, including jazz and then rediscovered the Dead about 5 years ago and saw similarities in the Dead's music and jazz. Discovered their music for the first time really so it was from a fresh unadulterated perspective and exciting at that since I had 30+years to review. I'd say 73-78 are my favorite years but I'm beginning to appreciate the Pig years more. Post 90s are hard to handle for me. And I like the Brent years because the B3 organ sounds great with their songs.

Deadheads--obnoxious? No way!

Besides being musical leaders, the band also led the way in merchandising. The ubiquitous akull and roses t- shirt giving way to a myriad of tie-dyed marvels, the stickers, the dancing bears. The ability to release a set of recordings that is over 25 years old and selling it out. But beyond that--the most loyal following in rock.

I can see, however, how the enthusiasm slips into obsession and how obsession can become obnoxious.

I can see the lost souls being a bit much for a non-dead head to put up with!

Still, sorry you missed them.

Should we be excited about the new release. I noticed it was multitracked. The sound should be real good.
Has anybody heard this concert before so we can get a review.

I won't really review the show, other than to say it ain't bad. However, I feel forever indebted to the show from saving me from a possible beating by a psychopath.

A few years ago I was at a tavern meeting up with about 10 other traders of unreleased music (primarily Dead at the time.) I had a copy of 12/31/76 in front of me to share and I had printed out some colorful artwork for it so it was eye-catching. This tavern is in an "eclectic" neighborhood (in other words it's overrun with degenerates) and as sometimes happened someone not quite right in the head sat down amongst us, in fact right across from me. He was a big guy and right away he started acting anxious & paranoid. I tried "talking him down" and suggesting more reality based explanations to his far off hallucinations but he wasn't very receptive and he started to threaten to punch me and others. This went on for about 10 minutes and was really getting stressful for me but I kept my cool.

The all of the sudden he looks down at the back of the case of 12/31/76 that is in front of me. I flip it around for him and looks at the setlist. I can tell he's confused, and his left index finger is touching near "Sugar Magnolia," seemingly out of place as it leads off the 2nd set rather than the more likely place of ending the set. So without him even asking I about it I said "Sugar Magnolia was Bill Graham's favorite song so they lead off the 2nd set with it in his honor." (Of all things just a week earlier a friend had told me this bit of trivia.) The guy smiled and suddenly settled down a little. Then he was distracted by something to his right for a moment, and I took the opportunity to grab my discs & get up and move to another table.

He ended up getting kicked out by the bartender 5 minutes later and didn't punch anybody, but I figure there's a good chance that 12/31/76 saved my teeth!

I just listened to this concert for the first time since 12/31/76. Sounds great to me, even better than I remembered it through the heavy fog of champagne and reefer.

So you Pigpen addicts are just going to have to put up or shut up.

We will never shut up!

But I can manage, I'm sure.

I haven't kept up with this thread enough, but has anybody picked up the new(ish) Phil Lesh "Live at the Warfield" set? There's a 2cd/1dvd set available, and I was curious whether Osby & Scofield merely guest on a track or two, or are actually in the band for the whole set. The AMG write up makes it sound as if they're present on all of the tracks. I'm interested in hearing Joan Osborne sing some of the Dead material, as well.

I'm told Scofield and Osby are present most of the time, and there's a long Lesh/Sco/Osby/Molo jam. Haven't seen it myself.

I am also interested in this Lesh release. When I saw Sco a couple of weeks ago in Helsingborg he introduced an encore saying that it was his Grateful Dead tune......

Now, to me, this is a great band. I posted here a few weeks ago that I've been picking up a number of the "Instant Live" 3 CD releases that were recorded on the bands recent tour. Yes, Osby and Sco are definitely part of the band. The "Instant Live" CDs that I have with Sco find him amazingly well integrated into the band. The two-guitar jams that I've heard are great. Check out the Nashville show. Osby seemed to take a little longer to fit it but toward the end of the tour was really contributing.

And I think I actually like some of the "Instant Live" CDs better than the Warfield release (although that's fine too). I guess I'm a fan...

Looking back on it- I wish I saw them too.......the DPs and other releases will have to do!! Besides- my favorite era is before I could actually see them- I was too young.....

Trane 123, where can one buy the instant live dicks+
What are your top tips? (2 or 3 would suffice) bearing in mind that its the lineup with Sco that I am interested in

I can recommend both the Nashville (6/20/06) and the Asheville, NC (6/27/06) CDs. I was surprised to hear how well integrated into the band Sco is. Really good stuff

I've been finding the "Instant Live" CDs both at the local Borders and independent stores. They're also at Amazon and phil's web site. Only problem is, without being able to see the back cover of the CD which lists the musicians, you can't tell if it's a Scofield or Osby show.

There are a couple of Phil & Friends free downloads available through phillesh.net. I downloaded a 12/4/05 concert last night, with Scofield & Chris Robinson from the Black Crowes.

It may be a pokey way of doing things, but if you check the setlists at phillesh.com it'll show who was in the band at the bottom of each setlist (or at least a couple that I looked at.)

Thanks for the information fellas, having trouble getting through to the shop at phillesh.com, but it is only a matter of time.

Tony - there are some free shows that Lesh has made available through the phillesh.net site, at least one of which features Sco. I'm going to soak the one up that I downloaded, probably purchase the Warfield set, and then decide if I want to buy any of the downloads.

Got a preorder notice for Cow Palace 12/31/76-1/1/77. Anyone picking this up? It looks good, and is my favorite incarnations of the band. The bonus disc looks tasty as well.

Cow Palace Preorder

I preordered it.

I'm a sucker for official product of the 1965 to 1978 years.

I'm really enjoying this Warfield release! Joan Osborne is a WONDERFUL singer for this material. And Scofield is very nice in this setting as well. Osby doesn't seem to fit in as well, at least at this particular show.

Going to have to hunt down that Nashville show I think. Thanks for the recommendation, trane123.

This link is for Lon!


http://www.shnflac.net/details.php?id=3121...dc86296592d3471

40 years ago--newly discovered reels from various 1966 locations.



MRs>DAT>3x>Delta DiO 2496>Soundforge 7.0>WAV>CD Wave Editor>FLAC

CD #1
Possibly 2/12/66 - 7"reel 1/2 track at 7.5 IPS:
Viola Lee Blues
Don't Ease Me In
Tastebud

"Longshoreman's Hall 1st Night" - 7" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS:
Beat It On Down The Line
Schoolgirl>You Don't Love Me>Schoolgirl (original reel cuts)

Unlabeled Reel:
Pigpen Raps
Billy, Bobby, and Pigpen>
New Orleans (sort of an attempt)
Twist and Shout

CD #2
"Longshoreman's Hall 3rd Night" - 10" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS:
It's A Sin
Viola Lee Blues
Midnight Hour
Beat It On Down The Line
Blues Jam (with Jorma and Jack) Note: reel runs out before the end

Pauley Ballroom #2 (no date) - 10" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS:
You Don't Have To Ask - Phil Talks About The Move To L.A.
Viola Lee Blues (some static at start of song)
I Know You Rider
Midnight Hour (plug pulled)

There are also a couple of short digi noises during the blues jam. The dates and locations
are as marked on the boxes of master reels. Let's leave it to the Deadhead historians to figure it all out for accuracy.

Happy Holidays Bill!

Awesome!

I posted this over at speedingarrow to see if they can magically make some MP3s appear. . .

SHN is sooooo easy. Just download mkw Audio Compression Tool then download the music files. Double click the red SHN check icons. Then move the files onto the MKW window and they will change to wave.

Otherwise I'll burn you a copy.

I'm just not going to make the shn attempt after so much agony I've had in the past with my Macs and I in the attempts.

Looks like good stuff indeed!

Guess I'm just going to have to burn it for you.

Thanks, I won't turn it down!

I may see it turned into MP3 at speedingarrow though. . .there are precedents.

There's some good posts by David Lemieux in the new tapers' corner on the new Dead.net. Check the week-by-week mentions of the vault's goodies. I note he likes that 11/30/80 show as much as I do. Also gives me hope of more to come from '70. Cheers, Dan

Let's just get it out of the way now. Nancy Pelosi is a Deadhead. "'Ms. Pelosi is a huge Dead fan,' her spokeswoman said. The Dead you say? Or perhaps it should say The Grateful Dead. The remaining members of the American band the Grateful Dead played tonight for the party celebrating the new re balancing of power and the installation of Nancy Pelosi as the Speaker of the House. The live music concert touted as "on January 4th, Nancy Pelosi Presents" wound down about 10:30pm EST.

The "House Band", which featured three members of The Grateful Dead as well as members from the band Phish and The Allman Brothers Bandopened the show with a touching "End of the Innocence' by Bruce Hornsby followed by "Touch of Grey" by The Grateful Dead. Then Tony Bennet sang"The Best is Yet to Come" and "I Left My Heart in San Francisco". Near the end of the concert, Wyclef Jean joined the house band to close the live music with Aiko Aiko. The encore was "You've Got a Friend".


http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/8532..._Trip_It_s_Been

The New York Post reported that the first song the Dead played was Shakedown Street, perhaps appropos considering the surroundings!

Oops--placed this in a "new' thread by accident! My bad!

Having posted for a few months on another, dead specific site, I just want to take a minute ti say "THank You" to you guys for your intelligent, interesting, informative, mellow, and no vitriolic posts. There are a lot of boards out there where egos, not topics, rule.

Here, I found friendship (yes, Lon), I have found all sorts of usful links, and have enjoyed the threads. I have found folks to be helpful, not hostile, and I enjoy making my own posts without fear of harsh criticism or disdain. And no one jumps on my typos!

This is a good place, filled with good people.

Thanks!

You are welcome Doc, I, for one like having you around-now group cuddle, OK?

Yes, this is a great thread. Thanks to everyone, and to Orchiddoctor and Lon in particular, for keeping it so stimulating and informative.

One can only be intersting if one's peers are also thus.

I have learned a lot from this board/thread. And I have started listening to the dead more than I have in years. WIth great satisfaction, I find that they stand the test of time. So many of their songs--especially the slew of Hunter-Garcia tunes--from 1070--1973 are timeless snapshots of the American landscape. In fact, I would daresay that the G.D. are the most American non-jazz band I've heard.

Witness:


Gone are the days when the ox fall down
Take up the yoke and plough the fields around
Gone are the days when the ladies said "please
Gentle Jack Jones won't you come to me"



Brown-eyed women and red grenadine
The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean
Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down
And it looks like the old man's getting on


Nineteen twenty when he stepped to the bar
Drank to the dregs of the whiskey jar
Nineteen thirty when the wall caved in
He made his way selling red-eyed gin



Brown-eyed women and red grenadine
The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean
Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down
And it looks like the old man's getting on




Delilah Jones was the mother of twins
Two times over and the rest were sins
Raised eight boys, only I turned bad
Didn't get the lickings that the other ones had



Brown-eyed women and red grenadine
The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean
Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down
And it looks like the old man's getting on



Tumble-down shack in Big Foot County
Snowed so hard that the roof caved in
Delilah Jones went to meet her God
And the old man never was the same again



Brown-eyed women and red grenadine
The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean
Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down
And it looks like the old man's getting on


Daddy made whiskey and he made it well
Cost two dollars and it burned like hell (note e)
I cut hickory just to fire the still
Drink down a bottle and you're ready to kill (note f)




Brown-eyed women and red grenadine
The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean
Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down
And it looks like the old man's getting on

And it looks like the old man's getting on

A tale of generations, of survival, of moonshining and tradion, of father-son, or the harsh realities of Appalachian life, of the core of the American experience.




This is one of Hunter's great first person narratives very much like Black Peter or Here Comes Sunshine. Brown Eyed Women and much of the Hunter-Garica songs from this time could easily have been penned by J.R. Robertson or perhaps even Dylan. All were back on the frontier--back into the history of America, with its gamblers, bootleggers, miners, outlaws, candymen, honkytonkers, all of them truckin' along the American landscape. That's why I've always felt that the Dead were perhaps the most American of bands--outside the jazz spectrum--because they explored and grew from their roots. A listen to the Roots of the Grateful Dead cd is illuminating.


Beat that for a dip into the fabric of the American mythos.