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jazzbo
QUOTE(orchiddoctor @ Jan 10 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]601035[/snapback]


One can only be intersting if one's peers are also thus.

I have learned a lot from this board/thread. And I have started listening to the dead more than I have in years. WIth great satisfaction, I find that they stand the test of time. So many of their songs--especially the slew of Hunter-Garcia tunes--from 1070--1973 are timeless snapshots of the American landscape. In fact, I would daresay that the G.D. are the most American non-jazz band I've heard.




Well said all around Bill! No arguments from me. When I started this thread my interest had rekindled. . .and then it took to a hot flame with all the contributors' thoughts and feelings!
orchiddoctor
Look, dude, we can't both be pigpen!!!!!!!!!
jazzbo
Hmmm. . . I hadn't thought about it quite that way.

Okay, I morphed into another of my idols!
orchiddoctor
You made one ugly Pigpen anyway.

A few thoughts:

Seems this thread has been running on fumes as of late--no new fuel for the fire as it were. I hope it fires back up. I've noticed something on another thread (another band): Song of the moment. Picking a song you really enjoy (obviously by the Dead) and putting it up for discussion--like/dislike? Recommended versions? Ideas on what makes it a great (or lousy) song?

I put up Brown Eyed Women--it is usually my favorite Dead tune. So perfect for the image they were creating at the time, and right in the middle of the most prolific period of the Hunter-Garcia songwriting. I also love the harmonies and Jerry's ability to make you feel that he really IS Gentle Jack Jones (not evey singer can do that).

Thoughts?
orchiddoctor
QUOTE(mjzee @ Jan 5 2007, 11:59 PM) [snapback]599192[/snapback]

QUOTE(Chalupa @ Jan 5 2007, 10:41 PM) [snapback]599166[/snapback]

Let's just get it out of the way now. Nancy Pelosi is a Deadhead. "'Ms. Pelosi is a huge Dead fan,' her spokeswoman said. The Dead you say? Or perhaps it should say The Grateful Dead. The remaining members of the American band the Grateful Dead played tonight for the party celebrating the new re balancing of power and the installation of Nancy Pelosi as the Speaker of the House. The live music concert touted as "on January 4th, Nancy Pelosi Presents" wound down about 10:30pm EST.

The "House Band", which featured three members of The Grateful Dead as well as members from the band Phish and The Allman Brothers Bandopened the show with a touching "End of the Innocence' by Bruce Hornsby followed by "Touch of Grey" by The Grateful Dead. Then Tony Bennet sang"The Best is Yet to Come" and "I Left My Heart in San Francisco". Near the end of the concert, Wyclef Jean joined the house band to close the live music with Aiko Aiko. The encore was "You've Got a Friend".


http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/8532..._Trip_It_s_Been

The New York Post reported that the first song the Dead played was Shakedown Street, perhaps appropos considering the surroundings! greengrin.gif





I heard Phil was M.I.A.? Three members? Does that include Hornsby?
Spontooneous
No Phil. Bobby, the drummers and Hornsby.

There was a link to a slide show from the event on another site, but I can't find it right now. Will try to find it later.
jazzbo
Yes, Brown-Eyed Women. That was one of the songs that got me going in the "Europe '72" phase of my Dead listener history.

Really nice imagery that I can relate to from some personal experience!

And I love the real folky feel of the B section.
John L
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Jan 10 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]601245[/snapback]

Yes, Brown-Eyed Women. That was one of the songs that got me going in the "Europe '72" phase of my Dead listener history.

Really nice imagery that I can relate to from some personal experience!

And I love the real folky feel of the B section.



The question is: Could Hunter, Garcia, and the rest of the Dead relate to it through personal experience? greengrin.gif

The Dead was always something like a great rock band in search of a roots identity. Just like the Dead could never sound nearly as authentic as Bobby Bland with Turn on Your Lovelight, they couldn't do Country with the anything near the authenticity of a Merle Haggard or Johnny Cash.

But they brought a certain surealistic quality to those country-tinged ballads like Brown-Eyed Women that I find extremely attractive. For me, the best performances of ballads like Brown-Eyed Women, Sugaree, Peggy-O, He's Gone, Loser, They Love Each Other, Ramble on Rose, Wharf Rat, and Tennessee Jed are the most sublime moments of the Dead's music, surpassing even the deep intense jams on Dark Star, the Other One, and Playing in the Band (which I also love).
orchiddoctor
I disagree somewhat--though not completely. Jerry and Pig, certainly, have some authenticity. Yes, Cash and Haggard, et al. were the inventors, creating from the land they lived on, but Jerry and Pig were closer to the original than 99% of the wannabes. Listen to Pig on It's a Man's World, and then listen to Mick Jagger on the Chess sessions--the latter sound white as can be, while Pig and Jerry and in the zone. Jerry also spent time going to the source--especially bluegrass--to listen and learn. What I think separates BEW and other such songs from others of the time is that they manage to capture the same sort of feel that other original American songwriters caught--that sense of American identity.

Then there's Bobby on Mama Tried. I don't think Merle had anything to worry about there.

For some Jerry roots:

http://www.shnflac.net/details.php?id=2088...bd22224e69ea628



Disc 1 of 8 - pwa ( 25 / 73:57 )
PA mixer > reel > cassette > cassette > CDR
Provided by Pat Lee

College of San Mateo Folk Festival
College of San Mateo, San Mateo, CA
November 10, 1962
Jerry Garcia - guitar
1. tuning (0:14)
2. Little Birdie (3:25)
3. Walking Boss (3:02)

College of San Mateo Folk Festival
College of San Mateo, San Mateo, CA
November 10, 1962
Jerry Garcia and David Nelson
4. intro ("honest Jerry Garcia" (0:16)
5. The Miller's Will (3:25)
6. Deep Elem Blues (4:04)
7. Will The Circle Be Unbroken (4:35)
8. I Truly Understand (4:21)
9. "Cousin Elmer" (3:07)
10. The Raging Sea (3:42)
11. Cannonball Blues (3:19)
12. The Cuckoo (4:20)
13. Man Of Constant Sorrow (Jerry Garcia - a capella) (3:40)


The Hart Valley Drifters
College of San Mateo Folk Festival
College of San Mateo, San Mateo, CA
November 10, 1962
Jerry "Earl Scruggs" Garcia - banjo and guitar
Robert Hunter - bass
David Nelson - guitar
Norman Van Mastricht - guitar and dobro
14. tuning (1:59)
15. intro > Handsome Molly (x) (2:44)
16. tuning (1:4
17. intro > Handsome Molly (3:0
18. "Cousin Elmer is back..." (2:35)
19. Pig In A Pen (2:19)
20. Banks Of The Ohio (4:1
21. "Cousin Elmer" (3:25)
22. Pay My Money Down (3:07)
23. Nine Pound Hammer (2:27)
24. Salty Dog Blues (2:30)
25. "For our final group, Dean Hammer and
his Nails..." > If I Had A Hammer (2:05)

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Disc 2 of 8 - pwba_16_20_16p_17p ( 22 / 58:54 )
PA mixer > reel > cassette > cassette > CDR
Provided by Joani Walker, via Paul Scotton

The Wildwood Boys
The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA
February 22, 1963
Jerry Garcia - banjo
Robert Hunter - guitar
David Nelson - mandolin
Norman Van Mastricht - bass
1. Rolling In My Sweet Baby's Arms (2:54)
2. Introductions (0:55)
3. Jerry's Breakdown (2:12)
4. Standing In The Need Of Prayer (3:01)
5. Muleskinner Blues (3:41)
6. Saturday Night Shuffle (2:52)
7. "we're back again" > Pike County Breakdown (2:14)
8. The Little Sparrow (4:52)
9. (x) We Shall Not Be Moved (2:46)


The Second Story Men
The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA, xx-xx-63
Rod Albin, Peter Albin, Ellen Cavanaugh, Ron McKernan
10. When The World's On Fire (2:55)
11. Hard Luck Woman > Katie Mae (4:4
12. Jenny Jenkins (3:06)
13. Rocky Mountain Blues (3:49)
14. Billy Grimes, The Rover (2:54)
15. Jubilee (1:56)

Peter Albin and Ron McKernan
(NOTE: tape is too fast?)
The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA, xx-xx-64
16. (x) John Henry (2:07)
17. Hoochie Coochie Man (2:17)

Mother McCree's Uptown Jug Champions
The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA, xx-xx-64
18. Jerry Garcia talks... (0:51)
19. I'm Satisfied With my Gal (1:54)
20. The Rub (Ain't It Crazy) (1:53)

Peter Albin and Ron McKernan
(NOTE: pitched down to 90% of tracks 16. and 17.)
The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA, xx-xx-64
21. (x) John Henry (2:21)
22. Hoochie Coochie Man (2:34)


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Disc 3 of 8 - pwc ( 15 / 25:43 )
PA mixer > reel > cassette > cassette > CDR
Provided by Joani Walker, via Paul Scotton

The Black Mountain Boys
March 6, 1964
Jerry Garcia - banjo
Robert Hunter - bass
David Nelson - mandolin
Eric Thompson - guitar
1. (x) Monroe's Hornpipe (1:42)
2. Katie Kline (2:07)
3. Intros (0:45)
4. Homestead On The Farm (2:30)
5. talking about "Barefoot Nellie" (1:02)
6. Barefoot Nellie (2:33)
7. song intro (0:52)
8. She's More To Be Pitied (2:19)
9. song intro (1:09)
10. Noah's Blues (2:09)
11. Somebody Touched Me (2:31)
12. talk (0:34)
13. Who'll Sing For Me? (2:05)
14. Darling Aller Lee (2:07)
15. Outro (John Hardy (?)) and break (1:17)


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Disc 4 of 8 - pwda ( 35 / 75:27 )
PA mixer > reel > cassette > cassette > CDR
Provided by Joani Walker, via Paul Scotton
Sleepy Hollow Hog Stompers
The 'new' Boar's Head Coffeehouse
Jewish Community Center, San Carlos, CA
June 11, 1962
Jerry Garcia - guitar and banjo
Marshall Leicester - banjo and guitar
Dick Arnold - fiddle
1. (x) Run Mountain (3:13)
2. talk (0:21)
3. Billy Grimes, The Rover (2:50)
4. looking for a capo talk (0:49)
5. Cannonball Blues (2:4
6. fiddle player talk (1:02)
7. Devilish Mary (3:12)
8. intros (0:35)
9. Buck Dancer's Choice (1:49)
10. Little Birdie (3:15)
11. "...tough luck, we're back..." (0:41)
12. Sally Gooding (1:27)
13. talk (0:36)
14. Hold The Woodpile Down (3:2
15. end of set talk (0:20)
16. tuning (0:21)
17. Crow Black Chicken (2:34)
18. talk (0:15)
19. tuning > The Johnson Boys (4:03)
20. talk (0:33)
21. Shady Grove (2:25)
22. talk and tuning (2:33)
23. Uncle Joe (2:12)
24. tuning (and gap) (1:19)
25. Sweet Sunny South (3:10)
26. All Go Hungry Hash House (3:54)
27. Man Of Constant Sorrow (2:22)
28. Yonder He Goes (Rabbit Chase) (3:00)
29. Three Men Went A-Hunting (2:06)

The 'new' Boar's Head Coffeehouse
Jewish Community Center, San Carlos, CA
possibly June 11, 1962
Jerry Garcia, Ron McKernan, and Mike Sector
30. Blues Jam (2:23)
31. Careless Love > In The Pines (4:02)
32. Going To Chicago (3:07)
33. Mike Sector introduces himself (0:21)
34. Jerry Garcia introduces Ron > 99 Years (5:14)
35. Blue Goose (possibly just Mike Sector) (3:02)


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Disc 5 of 8
All selections are from a KFOG re-broadcast
Provided by Michael Parrish

Jerry Garcia and Sarah Ruppenthal Garcia
The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA
May 4, 1963
Jerry Garcia - vocals, guitar, banjo, fiddle, and mandolin; Sarah
Ruppenthal Garcia [Garcia's first wife] - vocals and guitar
1. KFOG deejay > (x) Deep Elem Blues (3:03)
2. Will The Weaver (2:41)
3. I Truly Understand (3:16)
4. All The Good Times Are Past And Gone (3:12)
5. Long Black Veil (4:40)
6. JG and SR got married the previous week on April 25, 1963 >
The Man Who Wrote 'Home Sweet Home' Never Was A Married Man (3:26)
7. Keno The Rent Man (2:19)
8. Some Foggy Mountain Top >
"Wow!" KFOG deejay (2:52)


The Wildwood Boys
The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA
February 22, 1963
Jerry Garcia - banjo
Robert Hunter - guitar
David Nelson - mandolin
Norman Van Mastricht - bass
9. Rolling In My Sweet Baby's Arms (2:52)
10. Intro by Hunter (0:5
11. Jerry's Breakdown (2:10)
12. Standing In The Need Of Prayer (3:03)
13. Muleskinner Blues (3:39)
14. Saturday Night Shuffle (a Merl Travis tune)(2:44)
15. Pike County Breakdown (2:00)
16. intro > The Little Sparrow (x) (2:51)
17. (x) intro (0:41)
18. The Little Sparrow (3:52)
19. We Shall Not Be Moved (2:25)
20. KFOG deejay and Richard Rafel (0:32)

The Second Story Men
The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA, xx-xx-63
Rod Albin, Peter Albin, Ellen Cavanaugh, and Ron McKernan,
21. Hard Luck Woman > Katie Mae (4:43)
22. Rocky Mountain Blues (3:45)
23. "Oh, boy..." KFOG deejay (0:04)


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Disc 6 of 8 - pwfa ( 8 / 30:46 )
PA mixer > reel > cassette > cassette > CDR
NOTE: tape may or may not have had Dolby ON
Provided by Joani Walker, via Paul Scotton

Jerry Garcia and Sarah Ruppenthal Garcia
The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA
May 4, 1963
Jerry Garcia - vocals, guitar, banjo, fiddle, and mandolin; Sarah
Ruppenthal Garcia [Garcia's first wife] - vocals and guitar
1. (x) Deep Elem Blues (3:46)
2. Will The Weaver (3:35)
3. I Truly Understand (3:51)
4. All The Good Times Are Past And Gone (3:35)
5. Long Black Veil (4:43)
6. The Man Who Wrote 'Home Sweet Home' Never Was A Married Man (3:51)
7. Keno The Rent Man (3:44)
8. Some Foggy Mountain Top (3:59)



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Disc 7 of 8 - pwg ( 8 / 30:36 )
PA mixer > reel > cassette > cassette > CDR
NOTE: tape may or may not have had Dolby ON
Provided by Joani Walker, via Paul Scotton

Jerry Garcia and Sarah Ruppenthal Garcia
The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA
May 4, 1963
Jerry Garcia - vocals, guitar, banjo, fiddle, and mandolin; Sarah
Ruppenthal Garcia [Garcia's first wife] - vocals and guitar
1. (x) Deep Elem Blues (3:16)
2. Will The Weaver (3:36)
3. I Truly Understand (3:51)
4. All The Good Times Are Past And Gone (3:34)
5. Long Black Veil (4:42)
6. The Man Who Wrote 'Home Sweet Home' Never Was A Married Man (3:50)
7. Keno The Rent Man (3:46)
8. Some Foggy Mountain Top (3:59)


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Disc 8 of 8 - pwh ( 21 / 53:08 )
PA mixer > reel > cassette > cassette > CDR
Provided by Joani Walker, via Paul Scotton
(NOTE: the date for either of these is not certain; different sources
switch the dates for these two)

Burlingame, CA
January xx, 1962
Jerry Garcia and others (possibly Robert Hunter?)
1. Bolshevik In Hell (0:46)
2. talk about the bomb (0:15)
3. Rose Connelly (1:49)
4. Long Lonesome Road (2:45)
5. Railroad Bill (3:37)
6. The Wagoner's Lad (2:01)
7. Fortune (3:45)
8. Pay Me My Money Down (2:12)
9. Greenback Dollar (2:20)
10. Instrumental (1:10)
11. I'm A Good Old Rebel (1:49)
12. (x) Wealthy Old Maid (2:31)


Carlos Bookstall's loft called 'Boar's Head'
San Carlos, CA
July xx, 1961
Jerry Garcia, Robert Hunter, and Marshall Leicester
13. (x) talk, tuning, Banjo Instrumental (2:35)
14. 'last night a banjo string broke' > Poor Ellen Smith (4:00)
15. Wildwood Flower (3:15)
16. (x) Brown's Ferry Blues (2:19)
17. Jesse James (4:44)
18. talk (2:20)
19. No One Will Stand By Me (2:55)
20. All The Good Times Are Past And Gone (3:13)
21. Darling Corey (2:45)


I'm downloading these now--20 seeders should speed it up.

I guess I'll be burning Lon a set!
John L
Yes, Jerry could certainly play good Bluegrass. He did so later in his career as well.

I agree with you that what the Dead created was very authentic and quintessentially American. But I would only conjecture that this authenticity lies primarily in the end product of their particular synthesis of American music, as opposed to the bare bones blues, R&B, country, or Tex Mex elements that enter the mix.

That early Garcia collection looks very interesting.
jazzbo
QUOTE(John L @ Jan 11 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]601437[/snapback]

QUOTE(jazzbo @ Jan 10 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]601245[/snapback]

Yes, Brown-Eyed Women. That was one of the songs that got me going in the "Europe '72" phase of my Dead listener history.

Really nice imagery that I can relate to from some personal experience!

And I love the real folky feel of the B section.



The question is: Could Hunter, Garcia, and the rest of the Dead relate to it through personal experience? greengrin.gif


I bet the answer is yes, they could relate.

To me one of the great appeals of Hunter's lyrics is the "unspecificity" of them, which allows listeners to conjure up their own referrences and so be involved in the song. . . .
orchiddoctor
I agree with that assessment. Neither Jerry nor Pig were born into the particular times and places that gave birth to country and blues. Hell, San Francisco ain't Kentucky; and I certainly don't think Tennessee Jed has much authenticity. But they sure could play the stuff--and, for a brief time--Hunter could write about it.

It would be interesting to put together a compilation of the originals that Pig covered.
Spontooneous
link whistling.gif
orchiddoctor
Only 8 more shopping days until the release of 12-31-76. January 23, a day that shall live in infamy.

That's because it will be my 23rd--uh--55th birthday. 1976 (really 1977) Thirty years ago!!!! I was 25.
Ah, the old dog looks back with fondness to the time when . . . .

Why am I telling you this? A cheap attempt to get you guys to buy me copy?

Nah.
jazzbo
Yes, I have this one preordered. . . though I was so disappointed when this was announced that it wasn't a show from an earlier year. sad.gif

Bill, you're still young. Might have another 55 to go!
Roundsound
I'm excited. To save on shipping, I'm getting 2 other Dick Picks with the new old show.
orchiddoctor
QUOTE(jazzbo @ Jan 15 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]602980[/snapback]

Yes, I have this one preordered. . . though I was so disappointed when this was announced that it wasn't a show from an earlier year. sad.gif

Bill, you're still young. Might have another 55 to go!



Young and crazy, Lon. Working now on downloading all the ORIGINALS to Pig's songs--found 17 so far!
John L
Those who embody the spirit of the Pig never age.
orchiddoctor
QUOTE(John L @ Jan 16 2007, 01:37 AM) [snapback]603266[/snapback]

Those who embody the spirit of the Pig never age.



However, poor Piggers never got to age. sad.gif
orchiddoctor
Just had too much fun burning the following tunes which were the original versions of most of Pig's songs (that's what happens when your daughter comes by to add tunes to her IPOD).

As follows: Katie Mae, Bring Me My Shotgun; The Rub--Lightnin' Hopkins

There is Somthing on Your Mind--Etta James

Who Do You Love--Bo Diddly


Turn on Your Lovelight--Bobby "ble" Bland

It Hurts Me too--Elmore James

Smokestack Lightnin' Howlin' Wolf

It's A Man's, Man's World James Brown

Next Time You See Me--James Cotton

Big Boss Man-Jimmy Reed

Hard to Hande, Pain in My Heart--Otis Redding


I'm a Kingbee--Slim Harpo

Good Morning Little Schoolgirl--Sonny Boy Williamson

Searchin'--The Coasters

The Same Thing--Muddy Waters

In the Midnight Hour--Wilson Pickett

Run, Rudolph Run, Chuck Berry


She's Mine and Big Boy Pete are currently not available for download.
jazzbo
Good work, oh Pigpen historian!
John L
Great!

"There is Something on Your Mind" is actually an old Big Jay McNeely hit from the 50s. Bobby Marchan scored with it too.

"Next Time You See Me" is a Junior Parker classic. Cotton (and most likely Pig) got it from him.

"It Hurts Me Too" is a Tampa Red original, although Elmore James did a great job in covering it. Pig most likely got it from Elmore.

orchiddoctor
QUOTE(John L @ Jan 17 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]603731[/snapback]

Great!

"There is Something on Your Mind" is actually an old Big Jay McNeely hit from the 50s. Bobby Marchan scored with it too.

"Next Time You See Me" is a Junior Parker classic. Cotton (and most likely Pig) got it from him.

"It Hurts Me Too" is a Tampa Red original, although Elmore James did a great job in covering it. Pig most likely got it from Elmore.



Hard to find some of the original originals--urge, etc. will only go so far in obtaining rights to obscure stuff.


Did find the Tampa Red version of Hurts me Too! Thanks.
ANy additions, suggestions, are of course welcome.
John L
QUOTE(orchiddoctor @ Jan 17 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]603736[/snapback]

QUOTE(John L @ Jan 17 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]603731[/snapback]

Great!

"There is Something on Your Mind" is actually an old Big Jay McNeely hit from the 50s. Bobby Marchan scored with it too.

"Next Time You See Me" is a Junior Parker classic. Cotton (and most likely Pig) got it from him.

"It Hurts Me Too" is a Tampa Red original, although Elmore James did a great job in covering it. Pig most likely got it from Elmore.



Hard to find some of the original originals--urge, etc. will only go so far in obtaining rights to obscure stuff.


Did find the Tampa Red version of Hurts me Too! Thanks.
ANy additions, suggestions, are of course welcome.


The others ones that I listed shouldn't be too hard to find. You can PM me if you need a little help. wink.gif
orchiddoctor
I can find them; I just can't download them. Same with "She's Mine," which is on a Smithsonian release that is not cleared for dl--except in some obscure place in England which wants me to jump through hoops and rings of fire.

Sure--help would be greatly appreciated. Since the cd runs only about 60 or so minutes as is, I have room for both originals and versions Pig likely worked with.
orchiddoctor
Thanks to John, I can complete my little project! dirol.gif
vajerzy
Received the Cow Palace CD yesterday- nice package. The bonus CD wasn't included so I called the Dead today- the guy I spoke with said that they didn't get as many discs as there were pre-orders. They're getting another batch in a week or two and they will be mailed out to the people who didn't receive one.

Haven't played the discs yet- I will tomorrow. I read the booklet though....
mr jazz
QUOTE(vajerzy @ Jan 23 2007, 06:23 PM) [snapback]606832[/snapback]

Received the Cow Palace CD yesterday- nice package. The bonus CD wasn't included so I called the Dead today- the guy I spoke with said that they didn't get as many discs as there were pre-orders. They're getting another batch in a week or two and they will be mailed out to the people who didn't receive one.

Haven't played the discs yet- I will tomorrow. I read the booklet though....


You can stream Disc 2 of the set here:

http://www.musicbox-online.com/media.html

scroll down
Matthew
QUOTE(mr jazz @ Jan 24 2007, 06:47 AM) [snapback]607115[/snapback]

QUOTE(vajerzy @ Jan 23 2007, 06:23 PM) [snapback]606832[/snapback]

Received the Cow Palace CD yesterday- nice package. The bonus CD wasn't included so I called the Dead today- the guy I spoke with said that they didn't get as many discs as there were pre-orders. They're getting another batch in a week or two and they will be mailed out to the people who didn't receive one.

Haven't played the discs yet- I will tomorrow. I read the booklet though....


You can stream Disc 2 of the set here:

http://www.musicbox-online.com/media.html

scroll down


Thanks for the link, I must be off the Dead right now, I heard nothing to make me want to go out and buy it. Maybe later on I might get back on the Dead bandwagon.
Tony Pusey
Mathew-is this a case of the buss came by and I got off? wink.gif
jazzbo
Received mine yesterday too. . . got the bonus disc. Spun the first disc here at work. 'Salright!
Matthew
QUOTE(Tony Pusey @ Jan 24 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]607211[/snapback]

Mathew-is this a case of the buss came by and I got off? wink.gif


Yeah, I'm afraid it is. I always fade in-and-out over the Dead. Sometimes I can't get enough of them, others, it's like: "Do I really need to hear Playing in the Band or Not Fade Away another time?"
John L
QUOTE(Matthew @ Jan 25 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]607679[/snapback]

QUOTE(Tony Pusey @ Jan 24 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]607211[/snapback]

Mathew-is this a case of the buss came by and I got off? wink.gif


Yeah, I'm afraid it is. I always fade in-and-out over the Dead. Sometimes I can't get enough of them, others, it's like: "Do I really need to hear Playing in the Band or Not Fade Away another time?"


They should have played "Not Fade In and Out" instead. greengrin.gif
jazzbo
Okay. . . I have listened to the whole thing at last.

I like the bonus disc best! It's an okay show. . .but only that. . .some really tepid performances.
mr jazz
based on streaming disc 2, I agree. 76 overall is a mixed bag for me.
Tony Pusey
Saw the Cow Palace set in Malmö today, was going to audition it but decided against it and bought some Flamenco music instead....Judging by your reviews seems like I did O.K....
orchiddoctor
Apropos of nothing, cool link:


http://dozin.com/jers/guitar/history.htm#
Quincy
QUOTE(orchiddoctor @ Jan 30 2007, 04:54 PM) [snapback]610267[/snapback]

Apropos of nothing, cool link:


http://dozin.com/jers/guitar/history.htm#


Nice! I especially love the shots of Jerry before the Irwin models.

Perhaps if the Super Bowl pregame fluff runs long enough they'll show the Colts owner Irasy with Tiger.
jazzbo
I've been enjoying that site for a year or more.

You know, I think those Irwins are absolute works of art. BUT. . .my favorite "sound" of the Dead guitars are in the Les Paul/SG years.
kenny weir
I though I was over the GD, but I bought Dick's Pick 3 yesterday and love the hell out of it.

Kinda kooky buying it in Melbourne, bricks and mortar, when it's only a download on the GD site.

What I like about this double disc:

*No Playing In The Band
*No Sugar Mongolia
*No China Cat Etc
*Great sound
*Live Help/Franklin's Tower
*Liekwise Prophet/Eyes/Rat/Terrapin/Dew
*Singing as in-tune as any GD stuff I have heard.
jazzbo
Hey, that's weird,3 and 8 are awol from the gdstore. . . . Odd!
brownie
From AP today:

QUOTE


JERRY GARCIA'S WIDOW SUES OVER ESTATE


The widow of the Grateful Dead guitarist Jerry Garcia is suing to gain access to unpublished tapes of her late husband's musical performances.

Deborah Koons Garcia filed a civil suit Jan. 31 in Marin County Superior Court against a limited liability corporation, comprised of the rocker's beneficiaries including Koons Garcia, that oversees business involving his estate.

According to the lawsuit, Koons Garcia wants to professionally restore the so-called "Garcia Tapes," but others in the limited liability corporation have stalled the process. The suit asks a judge to clarify the terms of the agreement that led to the formation of the business entity.

Koons Garcia claims the corporation had been scheduled to dissolve by Dec. 31, 2005, but continues to exist.

The lawsuit is just the latest in a prolonged legal battle among Jerry Garcia's beneficiaries.

Some have filed their own lawsuit against Koons Garcia in an effort to maintain the corporation. The rocker's daughter, Keelin Noel Garcia, 19, also has sued Koons Garcia for allegedly shoddy financial oversight of the estate.

Attorney Lawrence Rockwell, who represents several of the defendants in the Jan. 31 lawsuit, could not be reached for comment.

A hearing is scheduled for April 13.


7/4
QUOTE(brownie @ Feb 7 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]613223[/snapback]

From AP today:

QUOTE


JERRY GARCIA'S WIDOW SUES OVER ESTATE


The widow of the Grateful Dead guitarist Jerry Garcia is suing to gain access to unpublished tapes of her late husband's musical performances.

Deborah Koons Garcia filed a civil suit Jan. 31 in Marin County Superior Court against a limited liability corporation, comprised of the rocker's beneficiaries including Koons Garcia, that oversees business involving his estate.

According to the lawsuit, Koons Garcia wants to professionally restore the so-called "Garcia Tapes," but others in the limited liability corporation have stalled the process. The suit asks a judge to clarify the terms of the agreement that led to the formation of the business entity.

Koons Garcia claims the corporation had been scheduled to dissolve by Dec. 31, 2005, but continues to exist.

The lawsuit is just the latest in a prolonged legal battle among Jerry Garcia's beneficiaries.

Some have filed their own lawsuit against Koons Garcia in an effort to maintain the corporation. The rocker's daughter, Keelin Noel Garcia, 19, also has sued Koons Garcia for allegedly shoddy financial oversight of the estate.

Attorney Lawrence Rockwell, who represents several of the defendants in the Jan. 31 lawsuit, could not be reached for comment.

A hearing is scheduled for April 13.




I knew Brownie was a dead head. Knew it all along...
orchiddoctor
If you haven't found this yet:


http://www.dead.net/view/tapers


This week

February 12 - February 18, 2007
Submitted Feb 12, 2007

There’s plenty to play from this week in the Grateful Dead’s recorded history, and in addition to loads of great material from the week of February 12-18, we also have a great jam from a week later, but with next week so packed with interesting music, we thought we’d play something a little early.

It’s hard to think of this week without thinking of the 2/13 & 14/70 shows at the Fillmore East. Justifiably famous and enshrined on Dick’s Picks Vol. 4, we’d like to start this week out by playing a couple of songs from that magnificent album, specifically Dancing In The Streets (MP3 13.03MB) and Caution (MP3 19.80MB) (both of which are from 2/14/70). The entire album is worth hearing again from start to finish, but these two songs are just to get you in the mood.

As we heard with the excellent Not Fade Away, Cold and Snow and High Time last week, the 3-night run of shows had lots of other great music played. From 2/13/70, this Good Lovin’ (MP3 13.18MB) features a nice little jam typical of the era. Short on Pigpen rap, big on power. Also from 2/13/70, this jam of St. Stephen>Not Fade Away (MP3 22.11MB) presents another excellent 1970 Not Fade Away, with the entire band jamming toward the end of the set in anticipation of what would famously follow later on the night of 2/13/70.

From 2/14/70, the second set has been preserved forever on Dick’s Picks Vol. 4, but the first set also featured some monumental music. This Dark Star (MP3 34.46MB) hits some great places, and although it doesn’t delve into the deep spaces, nor the melodic peaks, of the 2/13/70 version, it is most certainly an excellent rendition. Note how Bobby tries to veer the jam into the Feelin’ Groovy melody, to be rebutted by Jerry. Later, Phil tries the same move, but Jerry again puts his foot down. However, just before the second verse, Jerry relents, and the entire bands swings into a very powerful, but brief, Feelin’ Groovy jam. Unfortunately, the master reels are marred by a nasty reel cut between St. Stephen and The Eleven, rendering them unplayable here, but this 2/14/70 version of Lovelight (MP3 32.83MB) is presented with pleasure.

And for another little taste of Pigpen, there was some excellent music played during the six nights at the Capitol Theatre in Portchester in 1971, and this fine It Hurts Me Too (MP3 7.28MB) exemplifies that.

As you can see, this week’s Tapers Section is largely devoted to the 2/13 & 14/70 shows, and in addition to the great music on Dick’s Picks Vol. 4, there were hours and hours of additional music played that’s worth seeking out. However, we ought not forget that 2/14/68 saw one of the finer primal shows, at the Carousel. From that wonderful night, we thought you’d like to hear this terrific That’s It For The Other One>New Potato Caboose>Born Cross-Eyed (MP3 27.75MB).

Also this week, we have something very special from a week later in 1968, but which comes with a caveat. One of the most frequent questions we’ve received over the years is what about 2/22/68 Lake Tahoe. As we all know, Dick’s Picks Vol. 22 is from 2/23 & 24/68. Unfortunately, the tapes for the 2/22/68 show were incomplete, and more importantly, they had severe mix problems that rendered the bulk of that show unlistenable. But, because the music at the end of the show is so good, we are going to play it here for you, although please be warned: there are no vocals on the tapes, and there are a few other mix issues. However, as you’ll hear, those issues are rather minor when put up against the high quality of this music. So, for the first time, here is the heart of that show, Dark Star>China Cat Sunflower>The Eleven>Caution (MP3 46.05MB) from 2/22/68 at Kings Beach Bowl. Don’t say we didn’t warn you, but this music is so good, we thought you’d be able to overlook some sound problems.

Finally this week, we jump forward a few months to July, 1988. We’ve received a few requests for later 1980s GD, but with so few tapes in the vault from January and February in the mid-to-late 1980s, we haven’t been able to play too much to start the year. Although we’ll have plenty to talk about and play as the year goes on, here is an excellent Stuck Inside of Mobile (with the Memphis Blues Again) (MP3 11.38MB) from 7/2/88 in Oxford, Maine, recorded from the Beta PCM soundboard master, not the common matrix tape that many have heard. Also from the 1980s, in case you missed it on the reissue/HDCD remaster of In The Dark, here is the set-closing Throwing Stones (MP3 13.19MB) from 7/4/87 at Foxboro, mixed from the master 24 track tapes. Enjoy.

Check back next week for some music from 1970, 1973, 1974 and a few other cool things. As always, we welcome your input, so feel free to write with any questions, comments, suggestions or just to shoot the breeze.

David Lemieux
vault [at] dead.net




Note that there is a fair amount of early material being posted.

mjzee
Thanks for posting that. Is there an easy way to save the files, or can they only be heard while streaming?
John L
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Thanks for posting that. Is there an easy way to save the files, or can they only be heard while streaming?



The ones that I have looked at are just plain MP3s that can be saved with a right click.
mjzee
I did it! Slurped up about 90 tracks; lotsa fun. Good site too, if anyone else hasn't yet checked it out.
Roundsound
Likewise, I was surprised how easy it was. I clicked & it got saved on the computer and it started playing. However, they were only individual cuts
jazzbo
Y'all do know about all the zipped shows on MP3 at the speedingarrow right? Go to the first forum on this page for details on registering:

http://www.speedingarrow.net/forum/index.php
Spontooneous
Looks like I'm gonna be having lunch with one of the guys from Jerry's Reconstruction band in a couple of weeks.

Anybody have questions they want me to pass on?
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