oops sorry this is the link for the grateful dead show with ornette sitting in for the end of
the second set
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=13713
http://www.archive.org/download/gd83-09-02...il.shnf_vbr.m3u
Full Version: The Grateful Dead Dark Star
Pages: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38
Speaking of the Dead movie, it should be out finally on DVD in the next 12-24 months, yes? It's a major gas even though they botched the recording of their 10/74 "farewell" shows which the movie captures.
Howdy Clem.
Well, I just missed out on this box set on ebay in one of those last thirty second deals. Trying not to pay more than 45 or 50 dollars. . . .
Well, I just missed out on this box set on ebay in one of those last thirty second deals. Trying not to pay more than 45 or 50 dollars. . . .
The worst is yet to come: 'Sh!t Happens', a neat little Weir ditty which hopefully will be an "alternate out-take" from the hopefully to-be-issued unfinished sessions from late '89 I believe. Good for a pant-wetting guffaw though.
| QUOTE (clementine @ Jul 2 2004, 08:27 AM) | ||
so so so so fucking bad, man... worth it for comic/superlative value at least. THEE worst nomimally dead song ever? otherwise, yeah, the box is worthwhile. |
It's so so so fucking bad, but even more so for me is
Way to Go Home (Bralove/Hunter/Welnick) - 6:27
The last show I saw I got one of these. Though a longshot I thought if I stared at Vinnie long enough & hard enough, maybe I could make his head explode and the damn song would end.
Didn't work, but it was worth a try.
I've been enjoying very much the first volume of the Pure Jerry Series, which is: The Jerry Garcia Band: Theatre 1839, San Francisco, July 29 & 30, 1977. It really is pure Jerry. If you don't like Garcia's approach music, don't get this. If you do though, you'll love this music. It's a three cd set, and it has songs like Mystery Train, Simple Twist of Fate, I Second That Emotion, The Harder They Come, and a bunch of other cool stuff. Garcia was in great form these two nights, it seems as if 1977 he could do no wrong. Even Donna Jean Godchaux is halfway decent. You can only order this off of Jerrygarcia.com, but it's worth it if you like the Dead or Garcia.
Um...yeah. Deadhead here. 
My journey started in 1978. I was 16. Saw bunches of shows 1978-86, my last July 4, 1986, two or three days before Jerry went into a diabetic coma and scared the hell out of everyone. This was also my daughter's first show (in utero). But she, now 17 and quite the little hippie chick, did catch The Dead at Bonaroo last month. She thought they were terrific. Ah, the circle of life.
I opted out of shows mainly because I got sidetracked by other areas of my life, but I've always sought out recordings. Those of you into the digital download thing will definitely want to check out the ETree Live Music Archive, a HUGE repository of free live music recordings, offered up with the blessings of the artists. They're currently hosting hundreds of Dead shows.
My journey started in 1978. I was 16. Saw bunches of shows 1978-86, my last July 4, 1986, two or three days before Jerry went into a diabetic coma and scared the hell out of everyone. This was also my daughter's first show (in utero). But she, now 17 and quite the little hippie chick, did catch The Dead at Bonaroo last month. She thought they were terrific. Ah, the circle of life.
I opted out of shows mainly because I got sidetracked by other areas of my life, but I've always sought out recordings. Those of you into the digital download thing will definitely want to check out the ETree Live Music Archive, a HUGE repository of free live music recordings, offered up with the blessings of the artists. They're currently hosting hundreds of Dead shows.
gd, who would ever have guessed you were a Deadhead? 
Matthew: yeah, I'm digging the Pure Jerry as well.
Matthew: yeah, I'm digging the Pure Jerry as well.
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| gd, who would ever have guessed you were a Deadhead? |
Lon - what gave me away?!?
| QUOTE (.:.impossible @ Jun 29 2004, 07:45 PM) |
| Here's a show that might change your outlook of the cowboy songs, and wonder if The Grateful Dead could have become a country band. Some really great takes on songs that I thought were familiar! This was a brand new sound to me. June 28, 1969 Veteran's Auditorium Garcia sticks to the pedal steel for a handful of tunes, gazing up at all of the treble coming from Pigpen's organ. Bob's voice is full and they are really enjoying themselves. Check it out! |
Anybody check this out yet? I posted it up here because it was so different from any other Grateful Dead I had previously heard. Gotta love archive.org.
Funny that I just came upon this thread. I just started listening to the Dead. I picked up the Golden Road box set and am pouring through all this music, all of which is new to me, except the radio hits.
Listening to Skullfuck right now. Am definitely loving the live stuff much more- early studio stuff has moments of greatness but often too trippy for me.
Live/Dead, Workingman, American Beauty, and Skullfuck are great, and I'm sure Europe '72 won't let me down.
Listening to Skullfuck right now. Am definitely loving the live stuff much more- early studio stuff has moments of greatness but often too trippy for me.
Live/Dead, Workingman, American Beauty, and Skullfuck are great, and I'm sure Europe '72 won't let me down.
| QUOTE (.:.impossible @ Jul 10 2004, 10:27 AM) | ||
Anybody check this out yet? I posted it up here because it was so different from any other Grateful Dead I had previously heard. Gotta love archive.org. |
Sure did - and you're right, it's really very different from most Dead sets. Thanks for the link!
For more unusual Dead, I recommend the (official) live acoustic album Reckoning. It's one of Brent Mydland's earlier gigs with the band. Absolutely gorgeous work from everybody.
Why did I start this thread? It's going to make me BROKE! 
take5, I'll be interested to hear your reactions to "Live Europe '72"---that was the one that I got most excited about at first.
take5, I'll be interested to hear your reactions to "Live Europe '72"---that was the one that I got most excited about at first.
| QUOTE (David Gitin @ Jul 11 2004, 06:09 PM) |
| There's a Japanese import of RECKONING containing the song "Oh Babe, It Ain't No Lie," omitted from the US CD. |
Right - the song was included on the original two LP set, but left off of the US CD issue, for reasons that passeth understanding.
What is they say about ... "You can never go back"?
For about 2-3 years now - since I became a little Internet savvy and discovered the joys of online music and musical discourse (in my own modest way), I have been looking for a version of a particular show. The only GD show I ever saw - the start of a three-night stand at Winterland in March, 1977. Now thanks to gdogus and a link to that remarkable archive site, I have found it. Early bits sound like crap, but it's warming up now on Scarlet Begonias.
But I suspect there better shows to be found there, so I'm going to have a swell time trying them out with a view to burning several for repeated home use. It's certainly the most diverse, voluminous site of Dead shows I've found. And seems to be pretty user friendly, too.
Still, "my" show sounds pretty modest and scrappy for what was for me a momentously life-changing experience!
As I'm gradually regaining an interest in the Dead, after a couple of decades of very passive fanship, I still have mixed feelings about them. I like only the live stuff. And even then ... well, I can easily live with the vocals, but sometimes they just sound so damn dribbly and pathetic.
Other times, tho', they sound just what I need. Magical. Shimmering. Head-spinning.
Another funny thing: I blame the GD pretty majorly for my interest in jazz, yet I sometimes have difficulty reconciling the jazz-lovin' part of my brain with the GD part. Sometimes it seems the jazz guys and gals do so, so brilliantly what the GD wish they could do. The story in What A Long Strange Trip (or whatever its title was) about the Dead HATING the idea of following Miles on stage at Fillmore rings true.
A few months back I got a real cheap copy of the last Winterland show and have been enjoying it a lot.
Big applause for Lon for starting this thread - it seems like it's going to be a Live One!
For about 2-3 years now - since I became a little Internet savvy and discovered the joys of online music and musical discourse (in my own modest way), I have been looking for a version of a particular show. The only GD show I ever saw - the start of a three-night stand at Winterland in March, 1977. Now thanks to gdogus and a link to that remarkable archive site, I have found it. Early bits sound like crap, but it's warming up now on Scarlet Begonias.
But I suspect there better shows to be found there, so I'm going to have a swell time trying them out with a view to burning several for repeated home use. It's certainly the most diverse, voluminous site of Dead shows I've found. And seems to be pretty user friendly, too.
Still, "my" show sounds pretty modest and scrappy for what was for me a momentously life-changing experience!
As I'm gradually regaining an interest in the Dead, after a couple of decades of very passive fanship, I still have mixed feelings about them. I like only the live stuff. And even then ... well, I can easily live with the vocals, but sometimes they just sound so damn dribbly and pathetic.
Other times, tho', they sound just what I need. Magical. Shimmering. Head-spinning.
Another funny thing: I blame the GD pretty majorly for my interest in jazz, yet I sometimes have difficulty reconciling the jazz-lovin' part of my brain with the GD part. Sometimes it seems the jazz guys and gals do so, so brilliantly what the GD wish they could do. The story in What A Long Strange Trip (or whatever its title was) about the Dead HATING the idea of following Miles on stage at Fillmore rings true.
A few months back I got a real cheap copy of the last Winterland show and have been enjoying it a lot.
Big applause for Lon for starting this thread - it seems like it's going to be a Live One!
| QUOTE (kenny weir @ Jul 11 2004, 06:25 PM) |
| The only GD show I ever saw - the start of a three-night stand at Winterland in March, 1977. Now thanks to gdogus and a link to that remarkable archive site, I have found it. Early bits sound like crap, but it's warming up now on Scarlet Begonias. |
You hit an interesting footnote for you one & only. You got to hear the most complete live version of "Terrapin Station," as after that night they stopped doing the "At A Siding"/"Alhambra" portion.
I have a friend who many years after your show started screaming "Play the rest of it damn it!" when the band as usual starting drifting off to another place and didn't play those above mentioned parts. "Why don't they ever finish it?"
Not owning Deadbase at the time, I couldn't tell him that they never did.
Except once.
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| take5, I'll be interested to hear your reactions to "Live Europe '72"---that was the one that I got most excited about at first. |
I'm listening to the second disc now. I am really liking- maybe my favorite one so far because it has less of the blues stuff. I like Pigpen gettin' down and all, but I just generally have been falling out of favor with white blues anyway. The stuff on this disc, with Garcia singing and the dual guitar stuff, the spacy arrangements- that's what I pretty much expected and wanted to hear.
The verson of Truckin' hear is outstanding.
I must give special mention to Phil Lesh. How does he know where to move the bass around what the guitarists are doing?
Don`t know why I missed this thread till today-The Dead were THE band for me when I was a sprog.Loved it all through 72, and then became,very gradually,dissillusioned as I felt a looooong decline set in.My favourite albums were Anthem ,Aoxomoxoa and naturally Live Dead. The reason I bought a cd player was the fact that From the Vault 2 was not released on vinyl, same day I bought my first Charles Gayle and David S Ware albums.Go figure.
Anyway I still pickup all the archive albums from my fave period, much to my partners irritation,she does not understand why I must have yet another version of Lovelight! (Same problem with Thelonius Monk!)
Plug for the Rockin the Rhein, fantastic presence on Dark Star!
Anyway I still pickup all the archive albums from my fave period, much to my partners irritation,she does not understand why I must have yet another version of Lovelight! (Same problem with Thelonius Monk!)
Plug for the Rockin the Rhein, fantastic presence on Dark Star!
Hey Tony, thanks for joining in!
Take: I figured you would like it. 1972 to 1975 is the period I'm really most interested in.
Take: I figured you would like it. 1972 to 1975 is the period I'm really most interested in.
at least a full third of their songs is country music. fuck that shit.
I like country done their way Len!
another third of their book is the useless tapestry in sounds attempts. they have a small handful of good songs. i recently checked out a '72 4 cd set. two good songs on the whole thing. chinacat sunflower, and some other thing.
weak
weak
Lesh is very interesting, he was a trumpeter and arranger/composer/orchestrator in a modern classical way, and then all of a sudden he's the Dead's bassist!
I don't know how he does that but I think it's his musical experience somehow (duh, I know but. . . he's very good). I like the hollow body bass sound he had going for many years.
I don't know how he does that but I think it's his musical experience somehow (duh, I know but. . . he's very good). I like the hollow body bass sound he had going for many years.
| QUOTE (l p @ Jul 12 2004, 10:56 AM) |
| at least a full third of their songs is country music. fuck that shit. ... another third of their book is the useless tapestry in sounds attempts. they have a small handful of good songs. i recently checked out a '72 4 cd set. two good songs on the whole thing. chinacat sunflower, and some other thing. weak |
Well, thanks for stopping by, man! Yeah, yeah - we'll see each other again soon, 'k? Really. Buh-bye.
| QUOTE (l p @ Jul 12 2004, 10:56 AM) |
| at least a full third of their songs is country music. fuck that shit. |
What's wrong with country? At least it ain't rap!
| QUOTE (l p @ Jul 12 2004, 03:57 PM) |
| another third of their book is the useless tapestry in sounds attempts. they have a small handful of good songs. i recently checked out a '72 4 cd set. two good songs on the whole thing. chinacat sunflower, and some other thing. weak |
So, you don't understand the Dead. Its your loss, not ours. You don't have to post here.....
For those of you who prefer '72 to '75, or the Pigpen era, you're in luck. You'll save a little money. 
Dick's Pick 32 has been announced.
Grateful Dead
Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI
8/7/82
CD One
The Music Never Stopped 4:19
Sugaree 9:51
The Music Never Stopped 3:59
Me and My Uncle 3:02
Big River 6:12
It Must Have Been The Roses 5:50
C. C. Rider 7:34
Ramble On Rose 7:31
Beat It On Down The Line 3:11
On The Road Again 3:04
Althea 7:56
Let It Grow 11:46
U. S. Blues 5:15 (encore of 2nd set)
CD Two
China Cat Sunflower 6:42
I Know You Rider 7:43
Man Smart, Woman Smarter 8:29
Ship Of Fools 6:39
Playing In The Band 11:14
Drums 5:30
Space 5:31
The Wheel 5:51
Playing In The Band 4:08
Morning Dew 10:11
One More Saturday Night 4:59
They haven't been picking as many from the '80's, so this will make some of those fans happy. Or not, as they'll complain "I already have that one as a crispy board. Why didn't they pick..."
Dick's Pick 32 has been announced.
Grateful Dead
Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI
8/7/82
CD One
The Music Never Stopped 4:19
Sugaree 9:51
The Music Never Stopped 3:59
Me and My Uncle 3:02
Big River 6:12
It Must Have Been The Roses 5:50
C. C. Rider 7:34
Ramble On Rose 7:31
Beat It On Down The Line 3:11
On The Road Again 3:04
Althea 7:56
Let It Grow 11:46
U. S. Blues 5:15 (encore of 2nd set)
CD Two
China Cat Sunflower 6:42
I Know You Rider 7:43
Man Smart, Woman Smarter 8:29
Ship Of Fools 6:39
Playing In The Band 11:14
Drums 5:30
Space 5:31
The Wheel 5:51
Playing In The Band 4:08
Morning Dew 10:11
One More Saturday Night 4:59
They haven't been picking as many from the '80's, so this will make some of those fans happy. Or not, as they'll complain "I already have that one as a crispy board. Why didn't they pick..."
I like the early stuff, 1968-1971, with Pigpen and the heavy psychedelic stuff. I think Garcia played a tuffer, sharper, more agressive style of guitar then. I also like the Europe '72 era, but have avoided later stuff. Comments on DP 28 have raised my interest however and its 2 long versions of Eyes of the World are tempting me. Anybody care to share their opinion of DP 19, another '73 show? Always liked Bertha from Skull & Roses (a/k/a Skullfuck), but am not aware of any other releases containing good versions. Alligator from King's Beach Bowl knocks me out, the perfect cure for one too many Lovelights! Any suggestions for other Pigpen recordings of songs less commonly recorded?
| QUOTE (Peter @ Jul 12 2004, 07:17 PM) |
| Anybody care to share their opinion of DP 19, another '73 show? Always liked Bertha from Skull & Roses (a/k/a Skullfuck), but am not aware of any other releases containing good versions. |
I still like DP 14 the best of the '73 Picks as it has 2 Dews, 2 Playin's & 2 Weather Report Suites. It's a compilation of 2 nights over 4 discs and I have no problem with that kind of thing, but some folks prefer whole shows.
DP 19 isn't bad though, namely for the good stuff on discs 2 & 3 (the Eyes, Dark Star, etc.) To a certain degree the Pick is cursed by what else they could have picked from November & December, as there are some more mammoth shows in that stretch. So I tend to play shows that I've traded for in that neighborhood rather than the pick - the curse of having too many shows from that year.
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| Alligator from King's Beach Bowl knocks me out, the perfect cure for one too many Lovelights! Any suggestions for other Pigpen recordings of songs less commonly recorded? |
Hmm, if you like Skull & Roses I'd suggest Ladies & Gentleman, The Grateful Dead. It's a 4 disc compilation of their April '71 Fillmore run. Lots of fine Pigpen selections too (eyeballing it it looks like 9.) "The Other One" on Skull & Roses appears here in full too. So many songs from that year that couldn't fit on the double album make it here, including a rare "Second That Emotion." And for variety's sake there's an Uncle John's Band>Lovelight.
Nice HDCD sound as well (though some - not me - complain about Phil's presence not being as high as the circulating soundboards.) Here's a tracklisting and review: Ladies & Gentlemen...
Yes, Quincy, Ladies and Genlmen is supurb.Sometimes I think that the Arista released archive shows are better than the Dicks Pick series, check out Steppin Out. (and not only cos I was there! 
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| What's wrong with country? At least it ain't rap! |
What's wrong with rap? At least it ain't jazz!
Let's not play that game, OK?
I just listened to Bear's Picks Vol 1, so I've now listened to everything in the Golden Road disc.
Reading this thread, it's quite daunting how much material there is out there.
| QUOTE (Tony Pusey @ Jul 12 2004, 11:07 PM) |
| Yes, Quincy, Ladies and Genlmen is supurb.Sometimes I think that the Arista released archive shows are better than the Dicks Pick series, check out Steppin Out. (and not only cos I was there! ) |
Ladies & Gentlemen and Steppin' Out I pre-ordered.
Did the same with Rockin' the Rhein as well as it's hard for me to resist releases from that time. What's fabulous about the Arista releases is that they're multi-tracked. Oh yeah!I just missed seeing you at Wembley in '72 (unless you were at Newcastle.) Not really.
I was on a family trip before just before my 9th birthday. I was oh so close to greatness I didn't know existed - for almost another 10 years!
Yes,Wembley,the Lyceum and Bickershaw...Funny, I thought I recognised you Quincy, must have been your big brother!
Hmmm. . . I think I actually prefer the Dick's Picks maybe BECAUSE they aren't multi-tracked. (Admittedly I've only got the Steppin' Out, not the other two similar releases, so far).
3/23/75 with merl saunders and ned lagin sitting in is awesome.
sort of "in a silent way"-ish.
very freeform and jazzy with a lot of keyboards.
it is just really blues for allah but it is a lot less structured than on, lets say, one from the vault.
sort of "in a silent way"-ish.
very freeform and jazzy with a lot of keyboards.
it is just really blues for allah but it is a lot less structured than on, lets say, one from the vault.
bt.etree.org also often has some good grateful dead shows going for anyone who uses bit torrent software. usually good quality because the whole etree thing is very anal.
A film called Festival Express opens in Melbourne next month. It's a doco that uses footage from the 1970 trans-Canada rail tour by the GD, Joplin, Buddy Guy and the Band (and, I suspect, others).
Has anyone seen this? Does it have some juicy musical moments, or is it just talking heads and so on?
Sounds fascinating anyway ...
I'm just checking out the site - http://www.festivalexpress.com/
Has anyone seen this? Does it have some juicy musical moments, or is it just talking heads and so on?
Sounds fascinating anyway ...
I'm just checking out the site - http://www.festivalexpress.com/
| QUOTE (take5 @ Jul 13 2004, 11:10 AM) | ||
What's wrong with rap? At least it ain't jazz! Let's not play that game, OK? |
ummm, sorry, not ok. I will express my opinion as I see fit. Ignore it or be bothered by it, your choice.
Way back I remember reading about the Dead and thinking "This band is for me",but...when I got the audio I was left pretty underwhelmed,caught some live stuff on TV(not the greatest medium for concerts I must admit),still nothing.Since then I've tried again and well,OK,but they just don't click with me big time.Maybe this is influenced by the knowledge that I'd need to remortgage the house if I got it bad,or maybe I ain't taking the right drugs!
At the risk of offending Deadheads further I do like David Murray's "Dark Star" tribute set
At the risk of offending Deadheads further I do like David Murray's "Dark Star" tribute set
Just stick to the 69-72 era for a bit of time. If the epic Dark Star jams and medleys don't pull you in, then the Dead are not your movie. btw, have you gotten down with some good versions of Morning Dew? 5/8/77? get somebody to make you BOTH sets of 5/8/77 on CDR and play it a few times through. Also get Hundred Year Hall and of course Live Dead.
| QUOTE (David Gitin @ Jul 17 2004, 12:23 PM) |
| Barton Hall! Yes... |
Why Barton Hall has never come out on cd is a complete mystery -- talk about an ideal Dick's Pick. One of my all-time favorite Grateful Dead dates, even if it does have Donna Jean on it!
Another shout out for Barton hall..."take a step back"...but while you're at it, don't neglect 5/7/77 and 5/9/77. I don't know what was going on that week, but that's one of the smokingest periods in GD performance history, imho...all three shows are up at archive.org, in good sound, and are worth the d/l time and space.
| QUOTE (Matthew @ Jul 17 2004, 03:02 PM) | ||
Why Barton Hall has never come out on cd is a complete mystery -- talk about an ideal Dick's Pick. One of my all-time favorite Grateful Dead dates, even if it does have Donna Jean on it! |
I believe it is because they don't have it in the vault. It was one of the Betty Boards that was found in the storage locker that was auctioned off when she missed a payment (or two or three) at one of those U-Storage facilities.
They've given us 3 from May '77, and I like 5/19 more anyway.
Though 5/8 does have the Scarlet>Fire, and da Dew!
Cornell also has to be one of the easiest shows to obtain in pristine sound quality. Almost everyone that calls themselves a deadhead has a good copy. So, there really isn't a pressing need to get that show out. It's doubtful they could upgrade the sound over what is in circualtion. There are many other shows that don't circulate or circulate w/ poor sound quality(and need to upgraded) that should be considered before Cornell, IMHO.
Not too mention that it's kind of overrated. There are better shows from that year.
And yes, it's not in the Vault.
Not too mention that it's kind of overrated. There are better shows from that year.
And yes, it's not in the Vault.
Random musings...
I really like everything they did through 75. After that it's hit ot miss for me and the last show I have is 10.31.91. I can't stomach Vince. His voice is far worse than any Donna wails to me. YMMV.
I love the last disc of DP 19. The Dark Star is one for the ages.
Everyone should have a copy of Steppin' Out. Ditto for Rockin' the Rhein. And DP's 2,4,8. Essential.
If you get a chance d/l the new version of 6/24/70. Great AUD recording of one of their best shows. The new version(recorded by Ken and Judy Lee) blows away all previous circulating versions.
I really like everything they did through 75. After that it's hit ot miss for me and the last show I have is 10.31.91. I can't stomach Vince. His voice is far worse than any Donna wails to me. YMMV.
I love the last disc of DP 19. The Dark Star is one for the ages.
Everyone should have a copy of Steppin' Out. Ditto for Rockin' the Rhein. And DP's 2,4,8. Essential.
If you get a chance d/l the new version of 6/24/70. Great AUD recording of one of their best shows. The new version(recorded by Ken and Judy Lee) blows away all previous circulating versions.
5/8/77 over-rated? Maybe over-exposed like classic rock. Listen to the first set today and come back and tell us why that is over-rated.
Overrated? - yes.
This show, along with Veneta 8/27/72, always gets a lot of props. And they do deserve them - to a certain extent - they are both excellent shows. But there are many more shows which have better playing, IMHO. I just think the hoopla surrounding 5/8/77 is way over the top that's all. I wouldn't put it in my list of top 50 Dead shows.
There are better first sets from that year, again IMHO. Take a listen to 2/26, 3/19, 5/21, or 5/22. Don't get me wrong I like Cornell. The Scar>Fire is one for the ages as is the Dew. The Loser is fine as well. But the show is not a top 50 show. YMMV.
This show, along with Veneta 8/27/72, always gets a lot of props. And they do deserve them - to a certain extent - they are both excellent shows. But there are many more shows which have better playing, IMHO. I just think the hoopla surrounding 5/8/77 is way over the top that's all. I wouldn't put it in my list of top 50 Dead shows.
There are better first sets from that year, again IMHO. Take a listen to 2/26, 3/19, 5/21, or 5/22. Don't get me wrong I like Cornell. The Scar>Fire is one for the ages as is the Dew. The Loser is fine as well. But the show is not a top 50 show. YMMV.
Maybe we should compare this show to other Ivy League shows from the time. I've always enjoyed the Cornell sets.
I've always enjoyed the Cornell sets.
| QUOTE (.:.impossible @ Jul 18 2004, 04:05 PM) |
| Maybe we should compare this show to other Ivy League shows from the time. I've always enjoyed the Cornell sets. |
(Not that you were serious, but I have a Deadbase that doesn't get used as much as it used to.)
Almost every Ivy League school got a show, though most had their show early on and didn't get another.
Two that don''t circulate:
Columbia 5-3-68
U Penn 10-16-70
No show for Harvard, but substituting M.I.T. gets you one of the best "Dancing In The Streets" from the free show on 5-6-70. They played the next day as well.
I'm not sure if the Rhode Island Auditorium is in the Brown neighborhood or not, but they played a fine show there on 4-21-71. The Civic Center was played many times after that.
Princeton's show is a good one too from a few days earlier (4-17-71).
Yale's lone show was from 7-31-71. Legend has it a cop told Jerry to snuff his joint. As Jerry did he said "We'll never play here again." The show was also marred by students who were mistaken in thinking it was a free show. They stormed the gates and got tear gassed.
Dartmouth comes later. 5-5-78.
Other than 5-8-77, Cornell got 2 more. 5-7-80 and 5-16-81.
So safe to say, 5-8-77 is the BEST Ivy League show of 1977!
As an aside, the Rhode Island Auditorium is now known as DUNKIN DONUTS CIVIC CENTER.
This state is owned by donuts.
This state is owned by donuts.
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