It's killing me to do this but I need the cash.... I'm selling my Fillmore box set. I will ship to Europe.


http://cgi.ebay.com/Grateful-Dead-Complete...1QQcmdZViewItem

Also some Dick's Picks too:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Grateful-Dead-Dicks-Pi...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Grateful-Dead-Dicks-Pi...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Grateful-Dead-Dicks-Pi...1QQcmdZViewItem


Thanks for looking.

Anyone hear the rumor that Grateful Dead Productions is going belly up?? Supposedly, Rhino is going to be taking over Vault.

So maybe that Fillmore box isn't so limited after all?

I hope?

Well I wouldn't be surprised if they released each night individually. Each of the albums from the Golden Road box set that Rhino released were released eventually. I for one hope that they do. This music needs to be heard.

Not sure about taking over the vault, but at least they'll be releasing music from it via the DPs and other releases. (Sorry, don't mean to get picky on the semantics, though who knows, maybe they will.)

Hunter's diary from 5/1 had the following entry:

"Based on ignorance born of secrecy, it's my perception that DNC is in a
holding pattern, DeadNet being stone broke (which is why the opening
page hasn't been fixed - slow modems: try www.deadnetcentral.com) and
awaiting transfer, or so I understand, to Rhino Records which, so I
hear from the grapevine, may market our music, including subsequent
Dick's Picks, if negotiations work out. I understand they're not a bad
lot and want to administer it as righteously as they can. How righteous
that might be remains to be seen. Quite a job of cat herding involved. "

Click here for link to full entry

I've heard early July mentioned as the time of transfer but don't know how accurate that is. I would hope they have some things ready to go once the magic date arrives. Now we know why they wouldn't take our money on the 11/09-11/73 box when the link leaked out.

That was my first thought on reading the news.

Rhino has released DPs 7-22 at retail stores so it makes sense that they would release others. Plus they have release different sets (Winterland, etc.) on the retail level as well.

Why did I not pick up "Fallout from the Phil Zone" a long time ago?

There's some really good Pigpen on these discs!

Yes, some blazing Pigpen on there.

Also on Download #12, St. Louis 1969. The band is having fun throwing misplaced accents and offbeats at him, and he's throwing them right back.

Hmmm.. . another one for me to get around too when I'm back home. . . .

no up for ramrod? cold brothers cold... back to the dark hollow--

c

Bummer.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...MNGGDITL9I1.DTL

Well, that's pretty darn smug of you - sniping at people for not reacting to news they haven't even heard about. Sheesh ...

Yikes. It appears that the powers that be erased my file. Maybe that's a good thing.

As to Ramrod, RIP.

I "met" him once in 1970--if you can call it meeting him. While the band was busy having fun, Ramrod was busy keeping things in place, checking wires, running gaffer tape, a true mother hen. I attempted a hello which was met with a brief eye contact. There was no animosity; rather, there was a sense of cosmic urgency about keeping the machine running. Hell of a driver, too, from what I understand. Well, I hope he's partying with Jerry, Neal Cassady, and Kesey. He deserves it.

As to Dead.net: hmmm, remember all the acrimony about the sbd downloads on archive? Now you know why they had to pull the plug. Business is business. When you issue a Dick's Picks and sell only 10,000 copies, there just ain't much profit. The number of remaining copies is large as is evidenced by the3 various "sets" that are available. I think they went to downloads to save on pressing costs. Most bands who sell their own concerts (e.g. Pearl Jam who started the idea of selling each live show after the event) have reverted to downloads to cut costs. Remember, Dead.net was converting the whole catalogue to downloadable form to try to entice extra sales.

I'm sure that the live releases will be resurrected as soon as Rhino can get them going.

Welcome back, Doc. (You weren't erased on purpose; See the apology from the boss here.)

Everybody should spin an "Ollin Arageed" jam today in memory of Hamza El-Din.

"Asking you nice, now, to keep the mother rolling one more time."

Whew. I wasn't sure if I thought I'd been erased or if my thoughts has been erased or if I weren't real, in which case you are not real either.. This has been a problem for me since 1967 when someone handed me a funky bottle of "apple juice."

Considering how wonderful this board is to begin with, well, I'm just glad to be able to post and read posts.
Our host does an excellent job, and if the mothah gets bumped around--well, we can no longer count on Ramrod to fix it before the big gig.

Now another member of the tribe is gone. When did we all start to whither on the vine? Thank God Phil's still cooking.

I can see Woodstock 2009, forty years on. We'll be rolling in on wheelchairs--after the Feds require handicapped access through the mud--with joints hanging out of our respirators, wearing ratty old Dead t-shirts, and our pacemakers beating time to the music. There will be food tents providing organic mush and facilities for composting our Depends. Our great grandchildren will be dancing naked in the sun.

But we will be there, damn it, and we will surivive.

And no computer glitch is going to slow us down.

Oh Damn...

I was ready to download some new shows at www.archive.org but they are only available as streams or crappy variable bit MP3s... .It's been a while since I've been trying to download new shows and this really came as a surprise. www.gdlive.com is also dead

I found another good place to download GD shows. shnflac.net

Really good site.

If you do bit torrent you can download shows from http://tmnsp.net

Thank you very much! I use Bit torrent almost every day.

Right now I'm downloading Miles Davis The Lost Quintet tree at shnflac.net . At the current transfer rate it takes "only" 5 days to download the whole packet.

You can download software called total recorder for a few bucks. It will capture streaming files and turn them into downloads.The process is as simple as a cassette: turn on record then stream the show. This will reopen the archives for you. One note: it actually records, so don't do anything else on your computer--if, for example, you open a window while recording, you will get a sonic blip on your copy.

Also, Sugarmegs.org has a ton of streams. Sugarmegs still has the Europe '72 shows streaming (or did last month). Try also Dime a dozen.org for dead as well as Coltrane, Art Ensemble--thousands of Bit Torrent downloads--some DVDs as well.

I was googling for info on the fate of dead.net when I found this classic article from 1999;

http://www.stereophile.com/news/10430/


Interesting: the dead's attorneys shut down a site that was allowing mp3 downloads of live material. Sound familiar? But this was 1999, long before the archive fiasco!

This is the amusing part:

"That's the essence of GDP vs. MP3 as it now stands, but it's only the tip of the iceberg regarding the Grateful Dead's revenue stream. On Saturday, January 17, 1998, San Francisco Chronicle columnist Ken Garcia (no relation to Jerry) wrote a blistering report on the Dead's proposed "theme park"---a $60 million hotel/restaurant/museum complex to be called Terrapin Station. The project, with the blessing of the San Francisco mayor's office, would be funded by a small amount of seed money provided by band members and GDP, with the bulk of the financing to be raised by the issuance of non-participating stock---meaning fans could help build the place, but wouldn't share in the profits. The complex would feature a Mars Hotel, a Dancing Bear Café, and a souvenir shop selling everything from little skull Christmas-tree ornaments to American Beauty golf shirts."

I can just imagine: there would be a "sugar cube" ride through a series of chambers thematically grouped around each l.p. as played out in dayglo and mirror balls. There would naturally be a roller coaster called "The Acid Test." And, of course, there would be rides that involved the patrons just sitting there, in soft chairs, staring at the laser show in the sky. Not to mention all of the cute, cuddly "Jerrys" that would wander the park for child hugging photo ops.

Don't lick the postcards.

And one wonders why these wide eyed dreamers are broke!

Thanks. Sugarmegas surely has A LOT of shows,not only Grateful Dead gigs but also some pretty good sounding Jefferson Airplane,Joni Mitchell gigs as well.

I found another way to record those gigs.I just recorded Joni Mitchell's 1965-1966 gig with Audacity http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

It's too bad that I get the following error message at dimedozen.org over and over again:

We are very sorry!

At the moment, there are at least 93,500 registered users at www.dimeadozen.org, the maximum allowed under DIME's current configuration.

I just have to try registering myself every day.It's going to happen sooner or later.

I didn't have luck for about a week (trying once or twice a day) until one night I just kept trying to register every 3 to 5 minutes. Within half an hour I got in. Cross your fingers and maybe the same trick will work for you.

Heard a rumor that Vince Welnick died today. Can't find anything on the net about it. While he was not my favorite performer to occupy the keyboard bench in the Dead(Okay, I admit it. I used to refer to him as "Wince") from every thing I've read about him he was supposedly a really nice guy.

It appears to be true as it's on the official Dead site. Can't cut and paste from it, but no cause is given, just a note that begins "the wheel is turning almighty fast." His own website still has tour dates up for later this month.



I know what you mean. As one who was once held hostage to a "Way To Go Home" I can't pretend to have loved him. But as you say, I've repeatedly heard that he was a really nice guy, and that counts for something.

Hey, Vinny got "Here Comes Sunshine" back into the rotation. It warmed the heart of this hopeless '73 Dead fan.

Somebody make sure TC has access to good medical care. quick.

Search function is not working at all for me these days. . . so I'll ask: anyone listening tot he Joe Gallant (some of them are "and the Illuminati") interpretations of Dead material?

I've been enjoying "Terrapin" a lot. Sort of a bass-directed big band . . . Fuses lots of jazz and rock and blues. I've ordered two others, Blues for Allah, and a cd of tunes from a number of albums/shows.

Well I finally made it and got myself registered at dimeadozen. It has some REALLY good shows for download!

USENET disscussion

sad story.

An Official Announcement

Note how lukewarm the official statements are. (Vince was "competent.")

Maybe the Usenet commentator got it right after all.

Then again--do you think that group is destined for sainthood? They are just as bickering a bunch as anyone else. I'm sure they saw Vince as a hired hand. If he seemed to be a compenent player, it was only because the dead had sunk to being at best a competent band.

Of course, if Hornsby died, that would be different.

Vince allegedly died from suicide, as did Brent Mydland. Pattern?

I think the fact or alleged fact that Vince tried to do himself in on the Ratdog tour bus was taken by Weir as an aggressive statement of disdain, indifference for the struggles (financial, community) ahead. And we should or could view Weir's decision to take Vince under Ratdog's wing in the first place as a show of faith. The lack of support in getting him medical help is inexcusable, but I wouldn't condemn their whole scene as too by that one uncompassionate act. What I take away is that the charismatic grip that Jerry had on thousands from a distance must have been potentially overpowering for some who knew him well. John Kahn also seemed similarly overcome with grief, and we know what a mess was wrought by JG's unstable family relationships. The guy was huge, personally and musically, and if the other band members seem frail by comparison, I guess that is not unexpected.

The Grateful Dead, by all accounts, were as rough a group to work for as anyone. They always embraced the notion that other members' vices and personal issues were not a band matter--with the exception of Jerry's huge drug habit. They didn't exactly stand by Pigpen or Godchaux or even Brent. Live and let live--or die. I don't think anyone was intentionally mean, but looking the other way is just as unacceptable. Live and let die?

Well, I've decided I really DO like the "Terrapin" cd by Joe Gallant and the Illuminati; I've listened to it a half a dozen times now. Sort of insane. In a great way.

I've picked up and listened to "Blues for Allah" which is a live recording from the Knitting Factory. It's good. So far it seems less insane to me. It needs hearing again and again.

Well, downloaded "Digital Download Series, Vol. 6" the Carousel date.

Man. . . this is a good one. Starting right off with one of the really good "Turn on your Love Light"s with killer Bobby (guitar) and Pigpen (personality)!

I've now got all the Download Series titles from the years 1968-1973. I'll probably get the others up through the deaprture of the Godchauxs from the band. Try as I might I just can't generate interest in the band after that beyond the ones I already have (and I'm not really that interested in those). Not really sure what the reason for that is. There's a few songs I like from then, "Althea," "Passenger,""Feel Like A Stranger". . . .And I have NOT explored a lot of the shows (saw them just once during this period, early on in the period, 1980 in Cleveland). I figure that when I get really desperate for new Dead to hear I'll start buying those downloads or Dick Picks, oldest ones first. . . .

Next for me is to get about three or four Dick's Picks from the 1968-1973 period I still lack, probably will get the "Houseboat Tapes" first. Should have some birthday money in a month and a half or so.

That St. Louis 1969 download has maybe my favorite "Other One." Is that Garcia on steel guitar near the end of it?

Steel or slide. . . will have to listen again soon.

It's a great date.

Steel, most likely. He was playing around with in on all sorts of tunes, including a few versions of Hard to Handle (which suck big time). As to the Houseboat Tapes--relatively weak imo. More like a nice discovery that hadn't made the rounds. They weren't on a tour, so they weren't as sharp. And the introduction of Keith was only two months away. Empty Pages, though--well . . . .

You're probably right. I haven't retained in my memory banks when he first got and began plucking the steel guitar.

I've got to check out the Houseboat tapes. Just have to. I don't expect them to be some miraculous find, but I really like all the shows from this year I've heard, and there's room for more. . .

I can't say it's BAD; it's just that there are so many superlative shows from the same era. If you get the time, go on archive and play the gaelic park show. It's from a week or so later. The last Hard to Handle Pigpen sang. Maybe the last St. Stephen until 1976? Sounds almost like they knew this and rose to the occasion. It was a very strange venue with a great crowd. Gaelic Park is at the end of the Broadway line in the Bronx (at Mahattan College--go figure). You could feel the subway (it's elevated) but you couldn't hear it over the band. The only time I arrive early for a dead show and they had already begun.

Still, hope you enjoy the rescued tapes.

gosh. . . I've just been avoiding the archive. I hate to stream things and not have them when I want them on cd, and I don't have the savvy to do the stream to wav thang, nor do I think I can pull it off on a Mac. So. . . I avoid it.

Maybe they'll put it out. I'm pledged to give they guys my dollars eventually on any of the stuff they put out over the years I dig.

8-6-71 is one of the great live recordings of the Dead easily available (on archive). Downloading and converting to wav files is quite easy and there are tutorials available. you need to grab a few free tools. check etree.org for instructions. there are lots of free dead sbs for download at various internet sites.

I know it's "easy" for a lot of people. But I just don't find this stuff "easy," tutorials or not, and I don't find that many of these things work well with Macs and burners controlled by iTunes even if they say they do!

So I'm saving myself frustration and staying away from it . . . . I know I'm missing a lot, really I do. I'm buying the official products though.

On another subject, anyone else checked out the Joe Gallant stuff?

I find I really like the "Terrapin" studio effort and the live at the Knitting Factory "Blues for Allah."

Got the Joe Gallant "Music of the Grateful Dead and Beyond, Live Volume 2" on Relix cheap, and am digging it. So far "Terrapin" is my favorite of the three. Interesting stuff for Deadheads.

Right now am listneing to a highlight of the Download Series, "Black Peter," on Download Series Vol. 2, from Springer Inn, 1/18/70. This is a good show. . . this is a great version of this tune, the "mood" is perfect. Killer Pigpen in this volume too on "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'" and "Hard to Handle."

Now it's "Fallout from the Phil Zone." I am so glad I picked this up a few months ago. I don't know how I lived without this for so long.



That "Midnight Hour." Wow. I bet the whole show is killer. Maybe we'll get to hear it one day.

Long live Pigpen!

The Viola Lee smokes on there, too!

Damned straight it does! Made me order "Dick's Picks Vol. 26"!