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I've known the Jimmy Joy material for some time from a two lp set on IAJRC that has a bit more than the Jazz Oracle. They are a band that started here at the University of Texas and played in the Austin-San Antonio-Dallas area. People actually talk about them here!

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Worldsrecords just announced Jazz Oracle BDW 8069 Jimmy Lytell The Complete Pathé Recordings.

Jimmy Lytell was clarinet player with the OM5, Ladd's Black Aces etc. In the period 1926-1928 he had 9 sessions under his own name. He was accompanied by guitar, banjo and piano, Sidemen: Eddie Lang, Dick McDonough, Harry Reser, Frank Signorelli (and an unknown cornet player on one session).

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Worldsrecords just announced Jazz Oracle BDW 8069 Jimmy Lytell The Complete Pathé Recordings.

Okay - I'm there. I love Lytell's work with the Original Memphis 5. I didn't realize he had recorded that much under his own name.

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I've been trying to enjoy the Celestin/ Morgan release but my copy will not play beyond track 6 . Luckily I've managed to copy the whole disc and listen to that instead. Great music indeed .

The liners make play of the fact that of the 35 sides recorded by black bands in the 20s there are 23 on this disc. So my query is simple what are the other 12 and are they on CD??

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I'm assuming they mean black bands recorded in New Orleans in the 1920s. The Jones and Collins Astoria Eight sides probably fit the bill. They're on Frog 5.

There are also the sides by Louis Dumaine's Jazzola Eight. Was he black? I'll have to check some books back home later. The Dumaine sidees are also on Frog 5 (Sizzling the Blues). Highly recommended.

There's an excellent web site that covers recordings made in New Orleans in the 1920s. See here: http://www.bluesworld.com/NODiscog.html

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Jazz Oracle just announced West Coast Jazz. It includes the Kid Ory sides, Harvey Brooks' Quality Four (with alt takes), Reb Spikes, Dick Lucke, Freddie Carter, Lake Arrowhead Orchestra and a unknown band.

Frog announced Frog Spawn The Fourth Batch no track listing yet.

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Are the Jazz Oracles cdrs? It currently a crap-shoot with their back catalog.

Edited by Chuck Nessa

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yeah, I usually buy used on these labels because it is less likely to be a CDR. Frog has been using CDR's too; also Acrobat, which is doing all kinds of Chess and Savoy reissues. When I do get a CDR, I always return it.

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Is Acrobat a legit label?  I've received emails from oldies.com about Acrobat.

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From what I know, it's probably legit in the U.K. and Europe, but not in the U.S. Not that that means anything these days.

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Beware: Acrobat is using CDRs only these days.

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Thanks Paul.  I wonder if they take the time to remaster.

Allen, I'm not a fan of CDRs, but it's not like we have much choice.

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well the point is, if they want to issue it on something as cheap and perishable as a CDR, it should be very cheap; maybe $5. And I do think we have a choice; with certain labels (like Document) you have to find older issues of CDs. With Acrobat we need to spread the word AND send them emails of protest. The reality is that replication (non CDR) is extremely cheap these days; they are not paying for musical rights, and they can issue real CDs and probably break even with sales of 50.

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The Jazz Oracle release, Papa Celestine and Sam Morgan, Recorded in New Orleans,1925-1928, states in the liner notes that only 35 sides of black jazz bands were recorded in New Orleans in the 1920s, and this CD collects 23 of those sides (plus two alternates). What were the other 12? 

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The two alternates are part of the 35.

 

3/25/25    Piron's New Orleans Orchestra

Red Man Blues

Do Just as I Say

 

3/7/27      Louis Dumaine's Jazzola Eight

Pretty Audrey

To-Wa-Bac-A-Wa

Franklin Street Blues

Red Onion Drag

 

11/15/29     Jones-Collins Astoria Hot eight

Astoria Stomp

Duet stomp

Hot Weather

Tip Easy Blues

 

All 35 tracks are in the JSP box set "Breaking Out of New Orleans 1922-1929

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I really like the Red Nichols Brunswick recordings that are collected on 3 3cd sets, but my favorites are the Jack Purvis and the Papa Celestin/Sam Morgan collections.

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On 12/12/2020 at 7:12 AM, erhodes said:

10...

The two alternates are part of the 35.

 

3/25/25    Piron's New Orleans Orchestra

 

Red Man Blues

 

Do Just as I Say

 

3/7/27      Louis Dumaine's Jazzola Eight

 

Pretty Audrey

 

To-Wa-Bac-A-Wa

 

Franklin Street Blues

 

Red Onion Drag

 

 

11/15/29     Jones-Collins Astoria Hot eight

 

Astoria Stomp

 

Duet stomp

 

Hot Weather

 

Tip Easy Blues

 

All 35 tracks are in the JSP box set "Breaking Out of New Orleans 1922-1929

 

 

 

I imagine that the remaining two are the Fate Marable recordings from 1924: Frankie and Johnny and Pianoflage. 

Edited by John L

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