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Billy Harper Quintet - Antibes 1975

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Great, I'm in. I really like the Sam Records' releases that I've heard.  They present them well too

Cue weeping and wailing about vinyl only...

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This was the complete concert .... hmmmmh .... and only vinyl ..... thanx .....

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Placed my order.  Picked up a very nice looking Jef Gilson to accompany it on its journey

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Will await CD someday, hopefully, and this is a rare case where I might even spring for a download, but no can do on the vinyl.  Sigh.

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26 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

Placed my order.  Picked up a very nice looking Jef Gilson to accompany it on its journey

a Gaveau?

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Would buy this on CD in a heartbeat, but I mostly refuse to buy new vinyl (at least I’ve successfully fought the urge in all cases, to date).

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31 minutes ago, sidewinder said:

a Gaveau?

Yes

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3 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

Yes

Nice one. On my list. Just ordered a couple of Gilson items from the Jazzman.

Edited by sidewinder

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7 hours ago, felser said:

Will await CD someday, hopefully, and this is a rare case where I might even spring for a download, but no can do on the vinyl.  Sigh.

 

7 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said:

Would buy this on CD in a heartbeat, but I mostly refuse to buy new vinyl (at least I’ve successfully fought the urge in all cases, to date).

Sam does not produce CDs. They made an exception with Monk but that’s the only time as far as I know. Their stuff tends to sell out rather quickly so don’t delay. 

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On 15/02/2021 at 5:51 AM, mjazzg said:

Yes

There are two versions released by Sam

1. the studio version with Nathan Davis & Woody Shaw (A Gaveau) - previously released

2. the live version recorded a month earlier without the above (live A Gaveau) - this has never been released before

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My Harper arrived this week, unfortunately timed with my absence from my turntable for a fortnight. I'll just have to look at the lovely cover and imagine...

Now in stock at Honest Jon's.

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On 2/15/2021 at 8:40 PM, Brad said:

Sam does not produce CDs.

Yeah, well, fuck Sam then.

sam.jpg

No, I said it, I meant it.

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1 hour ago, JSngry said:

Yeah, well, fuck Sam then.

sam.jpg

No, I said it, I meant it.

I don’t think Sam cares. Their records sell out. 

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Sure, in Hooterville they do.

 

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Gave my copy a spin today and it’s very, very good. Harper at his best. The sound is magical. The added booklet insert is beautifully done too with interesting liners and nice photographs. 
 

Really I could imagine if you haven’t got a turntable anymore you’re not going to buy it (it wouldn’t be of any use haha). But if you still have one, I would really reconsider and buy it. You’re missing some very good music if you don’t. 

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Not telling any tales out of school here, but people are buying this stuff, ripping it to digital, and then sharing with friends. I heard of one guy who bought the LP just to rip it and then gave the LP away.

So Sam is losing money by not offering at least a limited run of CDs as well as their LPs.

None of my business, but still....

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I’d have gladly paid $20 for this on CD, probably even $25. Their loss.

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28 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said:

I’d have gladly paid $20 for this on CD, probably even $25. Their loss.

Sam is a one person company, Fred Thomas. As stated in his website it’s a non-profit company.  From his website: “This non-profit label is devoted to reissuing jazz records recorded and produced in France during the 50’s and 60’s.” Several of his recent re-issuances are repressing of records that have gone out of stock so he’s not reissuing a lot. His re-issuances seem more like a labor of love. Making money is obviously not his objective.

About Sam Records

Edited by Brad

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How touching that they don't do CDs except for that time they did 

Oh well, CDs will be made anyway, just not by them.

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14 minutes ago, Brad said:

Sam is a one person company, Fred Thomas. As stated in his website it’s a non-profit company.  From his website: “This non-profit label is devoted to reissuing jazz records recorded and produced in France during the 50’s and 60’s.” Several of his recent re-issuances are repressing of records that have gone out of stock so he’s not reissuing a lot. His re-issuances seem more like a labor of love. Making money is obviously not his objective.

About Sam Records

And all power to his elbow. As the owner of several of his releases I'm pleased he does what he does in the way he so chooses.

And I agree with Pin, this Harper is special.

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His elbow?

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1 hour ago, Brad said:

Sam is a one person company, Fred Thomas. As stated in his website it’s a non-profit company.  From his website: “This non-profit label is devoted to reissuing jazz records recorded and produced in France during the 50’s and 60’s.” Several of his recent re-issuances are repressing of records that have gone out of stock so he’s not reissuing a lot. His re-issuances seem more like a labor of love. Making money is obviously not his objective.

About Sam Records

1 hour ago, mjazzg said:

And all power to his elbow. As the owner of several of his releases I'm pleased he does what he does in the way he so chooses.

And I agree with Pin, this Harper is special.

1 hour ago, mjazzg said:

 

One thing not really considered here is the artist. I don't want to get too deep into it but limited edition releases like this guarantee a low payday for the artist with no hope of any additional sales to make it even a half way respectable payday. These limited edition record store day type things have resulted in some of the lowest offers for compensation to the artist that I have seen in many years. It's nice for the music to come out and I understand the nature of a non-profit and their supposed good intentions but it would be nice to see the artist compensated a fair amount as well.

Edited by david weiss

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Well to those sharing those illegal FLACS: enjoy them! Have to say mr. Thomas does not deserve it. His products truly show craftmanship and love for the music. Of course it’s his choice how to release his music, as it’s also the choice of some copies to release on cd only. I don’t think it would be appropriate for me to attempt an illegal digital file simply because I don’t want to buy cd’s. But that’s my humble opinion. 
 

I feel mostly like something fellow board member Clifford Allen said. Something like: I’ll buy it whatever the format is as long as the music is good. And this music is very good! 

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