rostasi Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 How many ways have you heard "Jack DeJohnette" pronounced? only like the mustard Jack Poupon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Jack Frenchs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank m Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 We have a high schopl station on fm here, run by a teacher and a bunch of kids for announcers. The poor kids have a terrible time with jazzmen's names. and repeatedly make awful mistakes. Mel Torm for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 "Zhackay" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Yet when I spoke publicly about the Phineas Newborn tribute concert, taking great care to pronounce the name "Fine-us" as he did, the concert presenter snootily and repeatedly "corrected" me to "Fin-ee-us." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Yet when I spoke publicly about the Phineas Newborn tribute concert, taking great care to pronounce the name "Fine-us" as he did, the concert presenter snootily and repeatedly "corrected" me to "Fin-ee-us." Actually both are correct. Newborn's name was actually Phinus, pronounced FINE-us, but kids in high school used to taunt him and call him "fine-ass", so he changed it to the more conventional Phineas, even though his friends still called him Phinus. I heard this from his brother, Calvin Newborn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Perhaps a sign of the increased awareness of Hispanic culture in Texas, a decrease in the awareness of Afrocentricity amongst many jazz musicians of a certain era, sheer ignorance, or a combination thereof, but the people on KNTU have recently put a side w/Onaje Allan Gumbs into rotation, and they unanimously announce him as "o-NAH-hey". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Chuck Mangone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpet Guy Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Lew Ta-bacon Potato Valdez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robviti Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 (edited) i've heard from a reliable source that kenny dorham's name is actually pronounced "kin-knee door-ham." what-chall think o' dat?! Edited April 16, 2005 by jazzshrink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 how do you normally pronounce it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robviti Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 most people i know say "ken-ney dor-um." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 His first name was McKinley, right? So he was called, early on: KINNY Dorham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 (edited) I recall one time doing a monthly "new releases" edition of the Jazz Scene with Ted O'Reilly on CJRT-FM here in Toronto. Ted handed me a Clark Terry CD to introduce. When the selection we chose came to an end I did the extro. I pointed out that there was a second trumpet player on the date and that his name was Greg Gisbert. Now, in Canada, a bilingual country (French and English are both official languages), that surname would be pronounced "Zhee-bair", which is the way I pronounced it. Well, Ted interrupted me, reminding me that Greg Gisbert was an American and that he apparently pronounced his name "Gizz-bert". Migawd!!! So I guess it really depends on where one happens to live. Edited April 16, 2005 by Don Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 most people i know say "ken-ney dor-um." I usually say Kenny Dor-hum. Not quite um, but a hint of h in there, "dor-hum." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Lew Ta-bacon Potato Valdez Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......potatoes and bacon.......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 I recall one time doing a monthly "new releases" edition of the Jazz Scene with Ted O'Reilly on CJRT-FM here in Toronto. Ted handed me a Clark Terry CD to introduce. When the selection we chose came to an end I did the extro. I pointed out that there was a second trumpet player on the date and that his name was Greg Gisbert. Now, in Canada, a bilingual country (French and English are both official languages), that surname would be pronounced "Zhee-bair", which is the way I pronounced it. Well, Ted interrupted me, reminding me that Greg Gisbert was an American and that he apparently pronounced his name "Gizz-bert". Migawd!!! So I guess it really depends on where one happens to live. His friends just call him Gizzy, or so I've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Jack Dee-Jo-Net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 a teacher I know always says Jack De-John-ay............................. even in the class I TA'ed. and what about Airbee Ankok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 People are truly perverse when it comes to pronunciation. Anyone with a modicum of knowledge of the French language knows that "Jacquet" should be pronounced "Ja- kay", which was how Illinois Jacquet himself pronounced it. But, of course, everyone else said "Ja- kett", and Illinois decided to accept that. But then there was Paul Quinichette. Most folks tended to pronounce his name "Quin-i-shay", but as Paul explained in a Down Beat Magazine interview, there were two "T"s in his name and it should actually be pronounced to rhyme with "cigarette". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Wait a minute; so I was pronouncing Jacquet correctly after all? I'm getting mighty confused here. signed, Jassmeusse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Actually, you were. But even Illinois himself gave up, and "Jack-ett" has become the accepted pronunciation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 How about changing the "Illinois" part, then? Gotta be "Eelnwah" because "Ill-i-noy Zhakay" just ain't gonna work..... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 People are truly perverse when it comes to pronunciation. Anyone with a modicum of knowledge of the French language knows that "Jacquet" should be pronounced "Ja- kay", which was how Illinois Jacquet himself pronounced it. But, of course, everyone else said "Ja- kett", and Illinois decided to accept that. But then there was Paul Quinichette. Most folks tended to pronounce his name "Quin-i-shay", but as Paul explained in a Down Beat Magazine interview, there were two "T"s in his name and it should actually be pronounced to rhyme with "cigarette". So, it's actually "kwin" and not "kin-a-shet"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Illinois Jacquet used to introduce himself as "Jean-Baptiste "Eely-nwah Zha-kay" from Broussard, Louisiana". Quinichette, I believe pronounced his name "Kwin-i-shett", but the name would be pronounced Kin-i-shett in the French-speaking world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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