mikeweil Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 You can really hear how important the embouchure is - sounds almost like a bassoon at times - the attack is so uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) I actually find it quite fascinating - it has a certain objectivity that I find appealing. In a way, without human intercession, it reveals an important aspect of that solo's essence - and, very ironically, by being so mechanical it sounds more individual than a gaggle of tenor players I can think of, existing as it does without certain inflections I've heard a million times before - this thing has real possibilities - and I am completely serious here - Edited February 13, 2007 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I prefer their ad-campaign from the early 90s... "Blow me some Trane" - wasn't that what JB shouted to his saxist on "Super Bad"? I hadn't noticed that. Is it on part 1, 2 or 3? MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Speaking of Giant Steps, check out this video of Coltrane's notes coming to life: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I prefer their ad-campaign from the early 90s... "Blow me some Trane" - wasn't that what JB shouted to his saxist on "Super Bad"? I hadn't noticed that. Is it on part 1, 2 or 3? MG I was wondering when someone would get the joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 It's on the live version, MG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I actually find it quite fascinating - it has a certain objectivity that I find appealing. In a way, without human intercession, it reveals an important aspect of that solo's essence - and, very ironically, by being so mechanical it sounds more individual than a gaggle of tenor players I can think of, existing as it does without certain inflections I've heard a million times before - this thing has real possibilities - I wonder if our reaction to the player-less saxophone is akin to the reactions of those hearing a pianola for the first time . As a reproducer of human musical performance the pianola was imperfect . The reproducing piano that followed was an attempt to better capture the nuances of human piano musical performance . From our vantage point the next step seems inevitable : the production of transhuman piano musical performance , such as found in the work of Nancarrow . The mechanical recreation of human woodwind musical performance would seem , not just more difficult than the recreation of human piano musical performance , but utterly pointless ( i.e. , no more than a technical or engineering exercise ) . Player-less saxophony awaits its Nancarrow . Unlike Allen , I don't find the 'objectivity' of the robotic Giant Steps appealing , though I do agree that it reveals an important aspect of that solo's essence , or rather , two important aspects . It reveals the dextrous technical mastery of Coltrane , and more importantly , how much of the solo's appeal is rooted in embouchure and breath control , those subtleties of subjectivity and personal expression which are not captured by the transcription . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 It's on the live version, MG. OBO110X MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BB) Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Player-less saxophony awaits its Nancarrow . Now I'd like to see if someone could slide that sentiment into some casual conversation today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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