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Just listening to the Teagarden. What wonderful music this is! Love those Willard Robinson tunes - never heard of him (except knowing "A Cottage For Sale" without knowing who wrote it).
Wonderful singing and playing by T! (The only recording of his I have yet...)
ubu
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Thanks, Garth, so I will look for it! Sounds nice indeed. I only have one Proper so far (the Webster), and of many of them, I have too much already (and then they often do not contain complete sessions) to get them, but at their price, their unbeatable!
ubu
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Yes, this ought to be on CD! But Tender Moments, too, as well as Expansions!
I just found Asante, had no chance to listen yet, but the Blue Notes by Tyner I know (Extensions, Real McCoy, Time For Tyner) are very good! These would make a very nice Mosaic (I'm sure the reasons why this won't (?) happen have been discussed here or elsewhere, but maybe someone knows more?)
ubu
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Garth,
does it make sense to get the Proper if I have the Mosaic already? Is there much non-Clef/Norgran/Verve stuff included besides the Pasadena concert (which, I suppose, would also be available otherwise)?
thanks,
ubu
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The thing that gets me about Pepper is that he always sounds so damn TIGHT. Not in a "non-swinging" way, but just like he's got a LOT of stuff bottled up inside him that he can't and/or won't let go of for whatever reason. I've never heard ANYBODY hug the time as close as he does. It's like a 6 foot tall man doing an intenselyintricate dance in a room that's got a 6.01 foot high ceiling with a half inch on either side. Same thing with his tone - it's full but tight, like Jimmy Rushing's body packed inside Jimmy Scott's skin. You get the feeling like a really messy explosion could happen any second, but it never, NEVER does.
Jim, this is a very good description of my feelings while listening to later Pepper stuff! It has a terrifying quality to it (while being terrific, and somehow bare-nakedly outright emotional). I guess it's this self-control and self-containment which (actually holding back some more/other/stronger emotions) makes to the music so strong.
ubu
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Inspired by your posts, and at lunch time, I´ve bought my 9th and 10th Mrs. Merrill cds: "Casa Forte" and "You and the night and the music". This will be my listening tonight!
EKE, hope you like them! Casa Forte is a nice addition to the other Gitanes discs.
By the way, in those "Helen Merrill Presents" series, there were three reissues not by her, but by Tommy Flanagan (with one very fine bonus track featuring Ms Merrill), Al Haig and Roland Hanna (I could not locate the later two). That Flanagan disc is very good, too, in my opinion.
ubu
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Yes, I do believe that Monk stopped by the recordings session: here's what I found as personnel:
323m-1-18 Helen Merrill - Teddy Wilson / Helen Sings, Teddy Swings (Victor SMJX-10111)* Larry Ridley, Lenny MacBrown
Looks like a real WINNER!
Sounds cool! RCA could reissue that in their Bluebird First Editions series, no? (By the way, where's the first edition with these?)
ubu
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Now that must be a cool cat, Lon! If only you had such a nice fuzzy webcam as Mr Sangrey, you could show her to everybody here!
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Cool, Lon! Now you maybe could name your cat...
That album with Teddy sure sounds interesting!
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I saw him live half a year ago. He was quite impressive! Beautiful and very strong sound, indeed. His playing Second Balcony Jump was great great fun! And then he had Rita Marcotulli on piano - I never heard her before, not even on CD, and she was quite a revelation for me, too!
ubu
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I have the Mosaic, and know Ventura only from those recordings. He sure is a master saxophonist. Those quartet dates are superb! And his bass sax playing is much more than a gimmick.
ubu
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I have not yet gotten all of them, but hell!, they're a very nice bunch of albums! I got the 3CD box (thinking along the well-known lines that the Columbia years were sort of uninteresting, nothing new etc etc) and fell in love with that stuff. Have the live ones (all of them), and started on the studio stuff. Got "Monk's Dream", "Straight No Chaser", and the 2CD Solo set (which, by the way, includes "Solo Monk").
I will sure get more of them as soon as I can afford (and have time to listen).
"Monk's Dream", for one, is a tremendous disc (though I prefer the take of "Bye-Ya" that starts the box - and that, strangely (keepnews-y?) is not on the reissue of "Monk's Dream" in the same form).
ubu
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I think "Art Forum" is Osby's first really great album. The first one that gave a glimpse of what was yet to come. Before that, I'm afraid I kind of only considered him a "Steve Coleman" wanna-be. By the way, I didn't get "Art Forum" until about 2000 or 2001, even though it came out in 1996.
That's what I think about Art Forum, too. I'm someday going to have all the Blue Notes beginning with it. Have Further Ado, the very cool live quartet disc with Jason Moran, the recent one with strings and the date with Hall, Hill, Colley, Carrington and Thomas. And I like what I hear more and more. Those Osby albums show up in sales here every once and so often, so I'll wait with pickin' up the rest. I did not pay less than 11 or 12 $ for those I already have.
Should we start an Osby-thread?
ubu
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Count me in as a big fan of Ms Merrill!
The Brownie album and the three collaborations with Dick Katz are among my favorite vocal jazz albums. I like the settings, the surrounding musicians, arrangements very much. Some quite adventurous stuff there! And her husky beautiful voice...
The Brownie tribute album, "Clear Out Of This World", "You And the Night and The Music", "Jelena Ana Miketic a.k.a. Helen Merrill", and "Music Makers" (trios with Gordon Beck and either Stéphane Grappelli or Steve Lacy added) are other very good albums. Seems to be a new one coming (it's listed already on amazon).
Lon, what's that Teddy Wilson thing? And what's the story behind that picture?
ubu
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thanks, Rooster. Will look for it. There's some Blue Note sale here, so I picked up "Turbulent Flow" (along with Tyner's "Asante", "Extensions", Osby's "Art Forum" and some others) for 10 or 11$. But they only had the second of Shim's albums.
But that Osby was one I was looking for for quite some time, so never give up hope on finding a CD...
ubu
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I got Mark Shim's "Turbulent Flow" today, just listened to it and am quite impressed!
Thanks everybody! Only got it because you made him sound quite interesting, and that's at least what he turns out to be. His take of Joe Henderson's "Recorda Me" is quite impressive, Harris and Simon (completely unknown to me) turn in some good solos, too. The only slight drawback (upon first superficial hearing) is the sometimes a little too contemporaneous sound (alright, it's only rhodes, and I'm not opposed to electronics whatsoever, but the sound just sometimes bugged me a little).
How is his first disc? Worth looking for?
ubu
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Up again with my question,
then added details of the "Blues For A Hip King" CD in my post above (#2 of this thread).
ubu
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The Collector's Edition disc does indeed have unique material on it:
1. Let's Fall in Love [1] -Louis Armstrong / Oscar Peterson - 3:33
2. Dancing in the Dark [Mono Version] -Bill Evans - 4:25
3. La Rosita - Coleman Hawkins/Ben Webster - 2:34
4. Shine on Harvest Moon - Coleman Hawkins/Ben Webster - 2:17
5. Memories for the Count - Harry "Sweets" Edison/Buck Clayton - 7:19
6. The Moon Is Low - Roy Eldridge/Benny Carter - 3:07
7. Close Your Eyes - Oscar Peterson - 3:49
8. Playboy Peterson - Oscar Peterson - 2:15
9. Prayer, a Jazz Hymn (AKA Hymn to Freedom) - Oscar Peterson - 6:55
10. Squatty Roo - Johnny Hodges/Dizzy Gillespie - 7:23
11. Duke's Place - Ella Fitzgerald/Duke Ellington - 4:12
12. With the Wind and the Rain in Your Hair - Tal Farlow - 3:00
13. Broadway - Jimmy Smith - 10:22
14. Let's Fall in Love [2] - Louis Armstrong/Oscar Peterson - 3:12
I saw it a couple of weeks ago and never bothered, because I thought it was a compilation culled from the VE cds.
Well, I got it today (and got the Meade Lux Lewis today, too - as I'm one of those f**king completists...). I had no idea this was such a nice collection of rarities!
Thanks, Aggie, Lon, for clearing this up for me! I think that Collector's Disc is going to get quite some spinning here!
Another favorite of mine is the Modern Jazz Society Presents... disc. I look at it as a John Lewis album, actually. Very nice to hear Aaron Sachs in such stellar company! Then Luchy strikes as always he did, Getz, Scott and J.J. do some nice blowing, and then I like the arrangements very much. And those tunes are so nice! Can't get enough of any decent to gorgeous arrangement of "Django"...
ubu
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Okay, I have to confess, I made a point of having my local Tower order each of these for me and I have them all. . ..
Why confess? That was truly a great series I think! Just as good as the Conns or whatever...
Can you clear things with the Collector's disc? Does that have stuff from other (not VEE) dates? Stuff released on VMEs? Or rare takes?
thanks,
ubu
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Aggie, thanks! But this is strange: La Rosita and Shine on Harvest Moon are from the Bean encounters Ben album, no? There, they play for at least double the time you gave!?
And then, none of these tracks were on VEE discs!
Will have to look for this disc. Think I saw it in a shop.
And yes, the Dickerson is a good one, too! Some weird groovy stuff on this one!
ubu
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I have all of them except the Meade Lux Lewis, the Washington, the Schifrin (anyone has a copy left?) and the Collector's disc (has this one anything NOT reissued on other VEEs?)
I like the series very much! Favorites include the Thigpen, Alan Shorter, Joneses, Edison, Konitz, Terry, Gillespie, Bauer, Cleveland, Jacquet, Lateef, Farmer, Jazztet, Brown discs. And the Joe Gordon album on the Blakey disc is cool, too!
I knew none of that stuff before, so it held many pleasant surprises!
ubu
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I bet you have the Mosaic? Otherwise get it quick
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I'll second the comments on the shattering nature of Trane's playing during the tour, and hearing Sonny is pretty cool, too. However, one shouldn't overlook Miles -- he is incredible on both the spring and fall tours. The difference in his playing between the two tours, only a few months apart, is very interesting as well; he appears more fiery in the Paris and Stockholm shows from the fall tour, as if to balance for the loss of Trane. Essential music, I think.
Yes, essential indeed! I have both the Paris and the Stockholm 4CD sets and like them very much!
And Miles' playing harder, edgier, sort of compensating Trane's departure, that's something I hear in the autumn concerts, too. It's like with Trane, Miles was playing the softer counterpart, while later with Stitt taking the softer part, Miles plays more fiery, trying (and succeeding, in my opinion) to provide sort of an edge which went away with Trane.
Then, I love Wynton Kelly on all these sets! Many great solos!
An as an aside: there exists some story about Miles having given Trane his first ever soprano on the spring tour.
ubu
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Just listening to the Jazz Epistles disc! It arrived this morning. Wonderful music! Though the later encounters of Brand/Moeketsi somehow strike me as riper, more individual.
The CD I have now is the Camden reissue (1998), not the Kaz one (that would be from the late eighties, if it really came out on Kaz, too).
No personnel and date is given. Is the following correct:
Hugh Masekela t
Jonas Gwangwa tb
Kippie Moeketsi as
Dollar Brand p
Johnny Gertze b
Makaya Ntshoko d
And the date? September 195? (September is mentioned in the liners, but no year is given)
Are the 14 tracks all from one date? Is this the complete output of the band? In the liners, an album released shortly after recording is mentioned - this would surely not have included all the music (72'28" is what my disc has) of the CD?
Were there two albums and something left off from the CD?
Then AMG helped re. "Jazz in Africa Volume Two" (though not too much help):
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&u...l=A3b6tk6axqkr0
So this is a Moeketsi disc, not a Jazz Epistles one (the liners of my CD - written by Donald McRae - make believe that Volume 1 DOES indeed include the WHOLE output of the Epistles).
Amazon lists it as available, too:
Amazon, Jazz In Africa Volume Two
And here's the cover:
I wonder if this is something similar to the "African Horns" CD (of which the discographical info can be found in one of my previous posts.)?
ubu
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Wow! Garth, thank you for sharing these memories!
Cannot say "wish I was there" really (I did express my sort of scepticism above), but if it were for the music only, I'd sure wish!
Your description of Kippie's style is very accurate! I hear that too (though I know very little about south african music other than jazz, just heard one or two old LPs my father - who stayed in ZA in the late 60ies - brought home from there).
Kippie Moeketsi and Basil Coetzee are two really great saxophonists, in my opinion. And it's just those embellishments, and the slightly-out-of-tune horn settings which make me love this music that much.
Did you see Bud Shank when he was in Johannesburg in '58? Or was that after you left? (Or were you not able to make it to Jo'burg then anyway?)
You sure know that one track with him playing the pennywhistle, don't you?
And please tell us that story about Masekela's trumpet!
ubu