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Hey Ubu, have you ordered from this place (the one in your link) before? The only thing I can get to come up is the form to fill out to obtain a catalogue.
pryan: no, but I once ordered their catalogue and receive it ever since (yearly). Seems they're a nice bunch of enthusiasts! Their main jazz thing might be their releasing the complete Django Reinhard recordings (still in progress).
I really don't know more, sorry! But maybe brownie does? Do try and send him a PM!
ubu
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Lon (or whoever knows about this music), should I get the JSP collection when I already have the RCA 5CD set and the Commodore disc?
And how about the Library of Congress stuff?
What more besides that?
thanks!
ubu
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Okay, I'll play devil's advocate. . .get the Capitol Classic Jazz Sessions box. It's 100 dollars off this way!
Good idea, Lon! (though I have not yet come around to listen to all 12 CDs...)
Scott: I don't really know about Hamilton as a leader. I guess that the sound the band as a whole gets is Chico's. He might be too subtle to put his mark on the band (as say Art Blakey or Max Roach did), but I do like this band-"concept" of Hamilton's a lot.
ubu
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Maybe the Jazz Factory release (which started this thread) is a rip-off of the one I posted above. Don't know.
ubu
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This is a link to a small french label's (Frémeaux) Complete (?) Holiday/Young release. They have a single CD, two CD and the above 3CD Lady Day/Prez compilation. They are not cheap rip-off (as definitive), I believe, but they don't have wide distribution, not even in Europe, it seems.
ubu
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so it's clear: get the Tristano!
The solo and overdub stuff is really great great music!
The live sessin with Konitz is not successful in every way, but some tracks are very nice, too.
Then the Konitz/Marsh album is one of their greatest, I think, while the Konitz albums fall a little behind. The Marsh album is another good one, though with Philly Joe, it seems Warne is sometimes almost blown away...
On Hamilton: yes, it may be cleaner than other west coast stuff, but I think Chico is a marvellous drummer. His touch is so light yet he really drives the band in a terrific swinging manner. I got this with my second batch of Mosaics (I'm now back to buying only those that are running low - money won't allow much more, these days), and I like it a lot more than I expected.
ubu
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Scott: the Tristano/Konitz/Marsh was my very first Mosaic, so many fond memories.
Then: do you have the Chico Hamilton? This is on the last chance list and definitely one to have if you like a close-knit west coast unit, swinging much harder than usually thought, and with Buddy Collette, Jim Hall, Paul Horn and John Pisano, there are some very good musicians aboard. And Hamilton himself is one of the great drummers of the west coast.
ubu
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Yesterday I saw Elio Petri's great movie "Todo Modo" (featuring Marcello Mastoianni, Gian Maria Volonte and Michel Piccoli). The soundtrack was by Morricone, but: Charles Mingus composed and recorded a soundtrack for this picture, too (released as the B-side of "Cumbia Jazz Fusion" on Atlantic in the seventies).
Now: why was Mingus' soundtrack not used? Anyone knows this?
In my opinion, the Morricone-score is alright, but I know not many scores by Morricone that are so pale, so far in the background. Mingus' music, on the other hand, might have been almost too strong...
ubu
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The Sherman-Quill date is on CD: the following information is from the freshsound.com site. I have this double disc set, some very nice music by some virtually unknown musicians. Can't remember which tracks are the Sherman-Quill ones. Would have to look this up home tomorrow.
Jazzville - 2 Cd
Various Artists
Featuring: Dick Sherman, Eddie Mattson, Frank Rehak, Melba Liston, Gene Quill, Norm Marnell, Marty Flax, Dick Katz, Walter Davis Jr., Alex Smith, Teddy Kotick, Nelson Boyd, Paul Worthington, Art Taylor, Charlie Persip
Tracklisting:
CD 1
1. Blues For The Camels
2. Lover Man
3. Achilles Heel
4. Everything Happens To Me
5. Rubbin The Genie
6. Insomnia
7. Very Syrian Business
8. Never Do An Abadanian In
9. Zagres This
10. Donnybrook
11. Limehouse Blues
12. Darn That Dream
13. That´S Earl Brothers
14. Nothing Could Be Finer Than Mi
15. Have You Met Miss Jones
16. Body And Soul
CD 2
1. Blues For Sal
2. Flying Home
3. Aaron´S Blues
4. You´re My Thrill
5. Platter Pie
6. Why Shouldn´t I
7. Ah The Pain
8. Everything I´Ve Got
9. Irma
10. Things I Love The
11. Why Was I Born
12. Suddenly It´s Spring
13. My Future Just Passed
14. Enchanted April
15. Lover Come Back To Me
16. Ain´t Misbehavin'
REFERENCE: DCD 114
BAR CODE: 84 27328 44114 8
PRICE: 12.00 €
By the way: freshsound's running a Dawn special offer: single CDs 6.5 Euros. The above one is the only double, for 12 Euro - not too bad prices, I'd say. Shipping for Europe is alright, but I have no idea how much it costs to the US. Anyway, there's some nice music by the likes of Zoot Sims, Al Cohn, Randy Weston, Joe Puma, Dick Garcia, the Jazz Modes and some others.
ubu
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Trane played bass clarinet on "Cosmic Music".
Bird also played tenor (alongside Sonny Rollins) on half of Miles' "Collector's Items"
ubu
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This was the same with me. After initial listening, I thought it to be "ok", too. But then, when I sort of forced myself to listen to it again (last time right before starting this thread), I found I don't really like it...
Glad to know it's not my particular problem.
ubu
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thanks, guys! you're great
(as always!)ubu
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I just received the Revenant 2CD edition of Taylor. Great great music!
The question I have is: what's the deal about the ghost tracks at the end of each disc? Why are they not noted on the cover? Why is the total time given on the OBI-strip (or whatever this is called) not including these?
AMG gives them as "Call" (CD1) and "D Trad That's What" (CD2). A site which seems more reliable than AMG (Cecil Taylor Discography) gives them as "Call" and "Untitled Sample".
Anyone knows more?
thanks!
ubu
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the line up looks great, I love the players, it's one of the last recording dates of the great Billy Higgins...
yet after several times trying to dig this one, I don't. Is this my feeling only? How do others like this record?
ubu
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Red, I'll do my best. Just ordered the 4CD hatOLOGY Waldron/Lacy reissue as a gift for a friend
ubu
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I'm a bit shocked by the few responses to this disc. In the early '60s, while in college, this record was owned and played often by almost everyone I knew - it was huge. I thought the front line alone would attract attention. This is the last Waldron recording of his "first career".
Booker and Dolphy are in perfect settings to show their best qualities (but why didn't Esmond Edwards ask for more takes of Warm Canto?). All the compositions are interesting and Rudy did a fine job recording the band. Even Mal's cigarette smoke (on the cover) intrigued me.
I guess you had to be there.
Oh yeah, I forgot to say Mal has Ron Carter on cello, where he can't hurt anyone.
in my eyes, this record, simply put, is a "classic" (whatever we EXACTLY mean with this term...) - and Chuck: I'm what you could consider a youngster (age 24). So there might still be a glimpse of hope for Waldron getting some of his due.
ubu
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I got a Selmer Super Action II (got it new some 4 or 5 years ago) and play a metal Link 5* mouthpiece with 4 Vandoren V16 reeds since more than 3 years now. Before that I used a rubber mouthpiece, too, but can't remember what it was.
My combination gives me sort of a fat sound, good in the lower register, maybe a little thin up above. And this combination requires quite a bit of air - but I love it. Anyway, as Jim said, I might sound the same if I still used that old rubber mouthpiece...
And you can read everywhere about saxophone players and their mouthpiece/reed combinations. You might find some *experts* telling you it is impossible to find the perfect combination and bla bla bla.
Don't give a s**t for what they say!
ubu
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Caught him a number of times when he was in Paris in the mid-sixties.
How was his playing then?
He was in a group that included Nathan Davis and Larry Young. This was pretty
exciting music. Nathan Davis was the main man in the group. Woody Shaw
already was a great improviser with a neat sound. They were playing at the
'Chat Qui Peche' club that is now a greek restaurant.
I don't recall having heard Larry Young play organ while he was in Paris.
Thanks! Wish I had been able to hear him live.
you should look for this Nathan Davis CD
This might give an impression of how Woody sounded in these days... not that I was able to hear that (as I was born some fifteen years later), but the first part of this disc is great. The second album included features Carmell Jones and Francy Boland (of the KCFBBB).
The CD is OOP, but maybe you can find it somewhere.
and Berigan: thanks for the interview (a little late, but nevertheless)!
ubu
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I think a Blakey "loose ends" set would be inevitable eventually. His Colpix, Limelight, and Roulette recordings all under one roof. None of it is his very best work by any means, but it needs to be done, I think.
This would be a very nice one! Never heard any of these records!
And how about a complete set of the Hardman/McLean/Griffin Messengers. They recorded for Bethlehem, RCA, Savoy and some other labels. I think they generally were a little bit better than usually thought. Griffin does some bad solos on the Bethlehem album, for instance.
ubu
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I saw "The man with the golden arm" recently. Quite a good movie, and Sinatra was very convincing, in my eyes. And a very nice soundtrack, but I have no idea whether this was reissued.
Then how about "Shadows" there's some very nice Shafi Hadi solos there! And probably more was recorded than what we hear in the movie? Was this on CD (or on LP)?
And concerning the Thompson/Jackson Savoy recordings, we might have to wait for the revamped Savoy to do something. If they make a nice care package (in line with the Bird 8CD) and no strange keepnews-ian ideas/omissions, I would not be opposed at all!
And Woody Shaw's "Stepping Stones" session might not be issued except *if* Sony/Legacy will do it, I guess. Would love to hear all of that, of course, the LP is very good, indeed!
ubu
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This is a favorite of mine. What a great band! I like the pairing of Booker and Dolphy very much - the make for a good contrast. Besides, "Fire Waltz" is one of the best of the many Waldron compositions, in my opinion.
Then I like Ron Carter very much, on cello as on bass (but primarily as a sideman), and Charli Persip is one of the truly great unheralded drummers of the era, another personal favorite.
Had no chance yet to listen to it, but I'll try to tonight.
ubu
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Did Underground debut "Boo Boo's Birthday," or did that track appear somewhere else first? It's always been one of my favorite Monk compositions.
if this link is of any value - it seems he never did Boo Boo's Birthday before. Of the other (not-Monk) versions I only know Joe Henderson's, and it's a great tune on a great record, in my opinion.
ubu
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One Mosaic box that I have been dreaming about for a long time is "The Complete Orchestra U.S.A. Recordings". Such a box would require cooperation from several different labels, but should be quite feasible. John Lewis's efforts deserve to be preserved and honored.
Yes! Give us more John Lewis! And this could include Mike Zwerin's "Sextet of Orchestra USA plays the theatre songs of Kurt Weill", too (this was recently discussed in the Dolphy sideman thread)
and, indeed the world's ready for more Jimmy Giuffre! Seems he's unable to play now for several years already. Would be a nice tribute while he's still around!
ubu
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Love that Eddie Costa!
another Costa fan here. How about a "Complete Eddie Costa Recordings" Mosaic? I know it might be impossible, but what would have to be in there? The Mode, the recent VEE, how much more is there?
ubu
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thanks, Mnytime & Lon, appreciate it!
I like the sound on the RCA, too, so really no need.
And thanks for that solo Jelly Roll recommendation, Lon!
And anyone knows the ethymology of the name "Jelly Roll"? Someone I know once thought it does include some sexual allusions? Anyone knows more?
ubu