AndrewHill Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) Some Sun Ra confusion: I just noticed that there are two Sun Ra cds, 'A Night in East Berlin' discs on Leo floating around. I have one that's titled 'A Night in East Berlin' from 1987, with four tracks: 'A Night in East Berlin,' 'Images,' 'Love in Our Space,' and 'Space is the Place.'. Then tonight I notice that there's another one that has a similar cover to mine (mine's white, the other one is black, but basically the same design.) with a similar title: A Night in East Berlin/ My Brothers the Wind and Sun no. 9, from 1996, with 8 tracks that are completely different from mine. The date of recording is the same though: 6/28/86. Are these two completely different albums from the same night? If so, should I run out and grab that 8 track disc? Thanks, HG Edit: correction. Only A Night in East Berlin is confrimed to be rec. on 6/28/86. It says on the back of the '87 cd that the other three cuts are not known where and when they were recorded. Edited July 11, 2008 by Holy Ghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 THIS ONE I GOT IS CRAZY Sun Ra Live in Berlin West Berlin, West Germany, 7/22-23/82. 60 min. Private recording, poor sound, identified as "A Jan Vanderbroesel Produktion". Probably from the same source as the Cosmic Duck boot. [Webber; date from Geerken] Christopher Columbus (Razaf-Berry) Lights on a Satellite (Ra) unidentified title unidentified blues (Ra) Do the Thang (Ra) unidentified title unidentified title Space is the Place / We Travel the Spaceways (Ra) Hit That Jive, Jack (trad.) unidentified title Who in the World Do You Love? Queer Notions (Hawkins) Ra-p, syn, voc; Ronnie Brown-tp; Longinieu Parsons-tp; Tyrone Hill-tb; Marshall Allen-as, fl, kora, perc; John Gilmore-ts, cl, perc; Eloe Omoe-as, bcl; James Jacson-bsn, Ancient Egyptian Infinity Drum; Danny Ray Thompson-bs; Hayes Burnett-b; Eric "Samurai" Walker-d; Tommy Hunter-d; Clifford Jarvis-d; June Tyson-voc. Plus dancers as above. Probably the same concert as the previous tape; titles Webber; personnel, Trent] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Some Sun Ra confusion: I just noticed that there are two Sun Ra cds, 'A Night in East Berlin' discs on Leo floating around. I have one that's titled 'A Night in East Berlin' from 1987, with four tracks: 'A Night in East Berlin,' 'Images,' 'Love in Our Space,' and 'Space is the Place.'. Then tonight I notice that there's another one that has a similar cover to mine (mine's white, the other one is black, but basically the same design.) with a similar title: A Night in East Berlin/ My Brothers the Wind and Sun no. 9, from 1996, with 8 tracks that are completely different from mine. The date of recording is the same though: 6/28/86. Are these two completely different albums from the same night? If so, should I run out and grab that 8 track disc? Thanks, HG Edit: correction. Only A Night in East Berlin is confrimed to be rec. on 6/28/86. It says on the back of the '87 cd that the other three cuts are not known where and when they were recorded. Ok, to answer my own question I went and bought the other A Night in East Berlin/My Brother the Wind and it has a completely different set list than the other A Night in East Berlin. In fact, I can't even find a listing for the 1987 cd anywhere (at least at Amazon). So why would Leo name two cd's so similarly yet they are different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 From the book SPACE IS THE PLACE : The Life and Times of Sun Ra ... " The big postwar jazz bands held little interest for Sonny , as most were either recycling past successes or shoving singers to the front , or else attempting to paste the innovations of Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie onto older formulas . Sonny was now listening to the Hollywood-inspired music being made by people like David Rose , whose lush massed string writing could be heard as theme songs on several popular radio programs ; or Walter Schumann , who brought classical choral methods to pop songs ; OR to the exotica of people like Martin Denny , who recorded in Honolulu under Henry Kaiser's Aluminum Dome accompanied by animal noises , natural accoustic delay , and reverberation ; and ESPECIALLY to the arrangements of LES BAXTER , the premier figure in what was being called mood music . Baxter was a big band saxophonist and singer who developed a post-swing style in the late 40's and early 50's of spectacular orchestral writing , full of tympani and hand drums , tumbling violin lines , harps , marimbas , celesta , Latin rhythm vamps , the cries of animals , choral moans , and flamboyany singers , creating imaginary soundscapes which he helped evoke with titles like " Saturday Night On Saturn " , " Atlantis " , " Voodoo Dreams " , and " Pyramid of the Sun " . Sonny first heard Baxter on Perfume Set to Music ( 1946 ) and Music Out of the Moon " ( 1947 ) , two albums built around melodies for theremin performed by Dr. Samuel Hoffman , a Los Angeles podiatrist who had played on the soundtracks Spellbound and The Lost Weekend . Baxter went on to produce records which celebrated the Aztecs ( Sacred Idol in 1959 ) , South Asia ( Ports of Pleasure 1957 ) , Africa and the Middle East ( Tamboo in 1955 ) , and the Caribbean ( Caribbean Moonlight in 1956 ) , all of which used Latin rhythms generically , as did his two big band records , African Jazz ( 1958 ) and Jungle Jazz ( 1959 ) . Though later generations would understand this music in strictly utilitarian terms , and hear in it the sounds of air conditioning and the clink of ice in cocktail shakers , for Sonny it was music rich with imagination and suggestion , and free of material constraints . His genius was to take as raw material what others in the 1950's thought of as " easy listening " and turn it into what in the late 1960's would be heard as " Third World Music ! by some and as " uneasy listening music " by others." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Yep, definite Les Baxter influence in the 'exotica' element of Sun Ra's 1950s recordings, in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 oh yeah... all those bongos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Of the Sun Ra 50s/60s albums I have, I hear the exotica influence most on "Fate in a Pleasant Mood" and "When the Sun Comes Out." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 FYI.... The Institute for Contemporary Art in Philadelphia will be hosting the following exhibition,"Pathways to Unknown Worlds: Sun Ra, El Saturn & Chicago's Afro-Futurist Underground, 1954-68." The dates are April 24 - August 2, 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Just saw at Atavistic's website that Secrets of the Sun has been reissued w/ bonus material! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 there is also a My brother the wind Vol I. on which sun ra tweaks the the moog to sound like some sort of altered hammond sound, like a hammond sound with added resonsance filtered to the point of almost self oscilation....of course he makes it swing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Just saw at Atavistic's website that Secrets of the Sun has been reissued w/ bonus material! Got this the other day, a new favorite! A great packaged reissue as expected from Atavistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Another winner, from Transparency: Universe Sent Me: Lost Reel 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartjewkes Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Looks like I'm going to see the Arkestra next Tuesday, oh yeah! Under Marshall Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Looks like I'm going to see the Arkestra next Tuesday, oh yeah! Under Marshall Allen. Should be fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 The Sun Ra All Stars (with Don Cherry, Archie Shepp, John Gilmore, Philly Joe Jones, etc...) at the Berlin Jazz Festival October 29, 1983. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBltHzzoywU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4KdK9-RQ-Y...feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Art Yard Records has just reissued Horizon from 1971: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 They've done a really nice job with it too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) I've ordered it, but am still eagerly awaiting it's arrival. Art Yard's releases previously have been really nice. Edited January 3, 2009 by jostber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 More on Horizon: http://sunraarkive.blogspot.com/2008/09/ea...ase-on-art.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 The reissuse of Nidhamu/Dark Myth Equation on Art Yard records should be out on Monday! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nidhamu-Dark-Myth-...9142&sr=1-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartjewkes Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Looks like I'm going to see the Arkestra next Tuesday, oh yeah! Under Marshall Allen. Should be fun! It really was! Lots of swinging tracks with great bluesy vocals injected with lots and lots of fun. Allen can still skronk his socks off and has melodic invention to spare. Calling them the Arkestra was a bit free and easy though. Mostly young, but very talented, musicinas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Christensen Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I only have two Sun Ra: Sun Song and Jazz In Silhouette, but I like them very much, I have more or less stopped buying records, can't afford it after I have retired, would love to have more Sun Ra, but ! I always wonder how you people can afford it and have so many records(and have the space for it), I have a small collection(about 2000 items) compared to many of you. the best to all of you great jazz people Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I've been working my way through the following since my earliest posting in this thread... Angels & Demons/The Nubians Of Plutonia Calling Planet Earth Concert For The Comet Kohoutek Fate In A Pleasant Mood/When Sun Comes Out Friendly Galaxy (Live At Banlieues Bleues) The Futuristic Sounds Of... The Great Lost Sun Ra Albums: Cymbals & Crystal Spears Holiday For Soul Dance It's After The End Of The World The Magic City Monorails & Satellites Nothing Is... Nuits de la Fondation Maeght Vol.1&2 The Other Side Of The Sun Outer Spaceways Incorporated Piano Recital Teatro La Fenice, Venezia Purple Night Second Star To The Right The Solar Myth Approach Vol.1&2 Spaceship Lullaby St. Louis Blues The Sun Ra Arkestra Meets Salah Ragab In Egypt Sun Ra Sextet At The Village Vanguard Sun Ra Visits Planet Earth/Interstellar Low Ways We Travel The Spaceways/Bad & Beautiful Super-sonic Jazz Pleiades Nuclear War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enterprise Server Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I saw Sun Ra a few times in person in San Diego. Last time was at the Belly Up Tavern. A huge venue for live music. They can out one by one on the stage, each musician playing until the entire band with dancers was in full swing. One of the hippest shows I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Recently picked up Secrets of the Sun on CD. When they're working from mono LP sources, I wish record labels would do the transfers in mono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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