J.A.W. Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 (edited) Cannonball Takes Charge - Capitol Jazz 34071 If This Isn't Love I Guess I'll Hang My Tears out to Dry Serenata I've Told Ev'ry Little Star Barefoot Sunday Blues Poor Butterfly I Remember You Barefoot Sunday Blues (alternate take) I Remember You (alternate take) Them Dirty Blues - Capitol Jazz 95447 Work Song Jeannine Easy Living Them Dirty Blues Dat Dere Del Sasser Soon Work Song (alternate version) Dat Dere (alternate take) Cannonball Adderley and the Poll-Winners - Capitol Jazz 20086 The Chant Lolita Azule Serape Au Privave Yours Is My Heart Alone Never Will I Marry Au Privave (alternate take) The Cannonball Adderley Quintet at the Lighthouse - Capitol Jazz 31572 Sack O'Woe Big "P" Blue Daniel Azule Serape Exodus What Is This Thing Called Love? Our Delight Edited November 27, 2004 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Any bonus material on these BN/Capitol reissues? check the links I posted earlier. The BN site mentions any bonus material Thanks. They do mention bonus material, but it's the same old same old bonus material that was on the Landmarks. Yeah, that's the C & C disc that came out on Milestone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Yeah, that's the C & C disc that came out on Milestone. so it seems those tapes somehow wound up back with OJC then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 I don't know what's more surprising- that I overlooked these reissues, or the fact that it's taking so long for people to correct the erroneous statements made earlier in this thread. ey! be happy man! Easy for you to say- your brain seems to be working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Fantasy did end up with the rights to some of the titles that came out on Landmark (like the Vinson). Don't make me take back my comment about your brain. Fantasy -> Milestone (not an OJC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 The long OOP album with Eddie Vinson, also previously on Landmark, was reissued on Milestone a couple of years back (with an extra track that didn't appear on the Landmark CD). I mentioned it earlier too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Fantasy did end up with the rights to some of the titles that came out on Landmark (like the Vinson). Don't make me take back my comment about your brain. Fantasy -> Milestone (not an OJC). hey, that was just a little stitch I dropped for you to pick up and restore some faith in your mental abilities anyhow, it seems ALL of the Landmarks are available on CD then. Maybe there should be a new poll... (and yes, Milestone, sorry 'bout that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Fantasy did end up with the rights to some of the titles that came out on Landmark (like the Vinson). Don't make me take back my comment about your brain. Fantasy -> Milestone (not an OJC). hey, that was just a little stitch I dropped for you to pick up and restore some faith in your mental abilities It may be too late. Maybe there should be a new poll... Yeah, perhaps a poll to see which Landmark CD's I should replace with newer remasterings, despite the fact that I'd be buying the exact same music AGAIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 I don't know what's more surprising- that I overlooked these reissues, or the fact that it's taking so long for people to correct the erroneous statements made earlier in this thread. Some people have got better things to do than proofread threads and posts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 I don't know what's more surprising- that I overlooked these reissues, or the fact that it's taking so long for people to correct the erroneous statements made earlier in this thread. Some people have got better things to do than proofread threads and posts... yeah, Hans is still working on that index for the Funny Rat thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 I don't know what's more surprising- that I overlooked these reissues, or the fact that it's taking so long for people to correct the erroneous statements made earlier in this thread. Some people have got better things to do than proofread threads and posts... Whatever, but I sometimes wonder if people actually read very carefully. When those titles were referred to as "obscure" and I went on to say they hadn't been in print since the 80's, I would have thought somebody might have said something sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 (edited) I don't know what's more surprising- that I overlooked these reissues, or the fact that it's taking so long for people to correct the erroneous statements made earlier in this thread. Some people have got better things to do than proofread threads and posts... Whatever, but I sometimes wonder if people actually read very carefully. When those titles were referred to as "obscure" and I went on to say they hadn't been in print since the 80's, I would have thought somebody might have said something sooner. Well, I can only speak for myself, of course, but I don't have time to check out threads and posts every five minutes, and I didn't read your observations until just before I posted the info about the reissues. Sheesh... Edited November 27, 2004 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Sheesh... Hans, I didn't say (nor did I mean) that I expected YOU to catch the error. I appreciated your input, BTW, I was just caught up in having some fun with couw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Am I alone in this? I have always felt that Cannonball did not fully realize his potential after leaving Miles. So I would say that none of his albums were his best. I am not putting him down as a musician or a man. There is no question that he was an absolutely superb alto saxophonist. Not only was he a great, but he also played in tune! So many altoists have had miserable intonation. This remark does not mean that I don't greatly enjoy his albums. I don't think I've ever heard a bad one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 I couldn't disagree more! I think that Cannon really came into his own, there was hardly a better alto saxophonist alive until he was no longer alive, and that he pursued his course as an artist, an entertainer and a teacher with steadfast progress from his appearance on the national scene to the close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Kevin, plod is probably too strong and poorly chosen, but I do find that bass and drum team to often be just. . . perfunctory or "getting the job done" and I think Cannon and Bill both SHINE when they have more than that beneath them. I don't think either Bill or Cannon really shine on that date! "Am I Blue" is meant to be on the downlow. . . I don't think there's a real comparison for me. . . one succedes (Am I Blue) and one doesn't (Know What I Mean) at meeting their possible goals. Jim: I have all the Landmark cds by Cannon and love them. I upgraded to ONE (Pollwinners) and then not any of the others because I didn't think that one was really a significant upgrade; the Landmarks sound pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Volume 7 in the Landmark series is Cannonball in Europe!, which was recorded live in Belgium in 1962. This album only came out in Europe originally; the Landmark release was the first U.S. release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 (edited) Volume 7 in the Landmark series is Cannonball in Europe!, which was recorded live in Belgium in 1962. This album only came out in Europe originally; the Landmark release was the first U.S. release. Landmark released it before Riverside? I thought it came out in the U.S. in the late 60's (Riv 499). Anyway, that's interesting. The Vinson album was released around the same time as the other Landmark CD's mentioned above, with the same "Reissued material courtesy of Capitol Records, Inc." credit... Lon, thanks for the info (glad to hear it! ). Edited November 28, 2004 by Jim R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJ Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 (edited) I'm less familiar with all the titles of the individual albums within the set but I really like the Verve 2-fer issued a few years back that included the early Emarcy stuff with Cannon and Nat Adderly, really bright, intelligent hard bop. I voted for this stuff. The slightly earlier 2-fer on Savoy jointly credited to Cannon and Nat is also nice, if a little less fully realized. I've also been digging the hell out of another Cannonball date for Emarcy - JUMP FOR JOY - recently, maybe not a masterpiece but really interesting stuff what with Duke's tunes, Bill Russo's contributions, and a great supporting cast. Edited November 28, 2004 by DrJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolff Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Somethin' Else Number two, for me, is "Know What I Mean?". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 I'm less familiar with all the titles of the individual albums within the set but I really like the Verve 2-fer issued a few years back that included the early Emarcy stuff with Cannon and Nat Adderly, really bright, intelligent hard bop. I voted for this stuff. To The Ivy League From Nat Cannonball Enroute Sophisticated Swing Cannonball's Sharpshooters I remember when that set came out, it was like "this is too good to be true". I really like JUMP FOR JOY also, and the strings date it was paired with ain't exactly chopped liver, either. Gil Evans' NEW BOTTLE, OLD WINE is another nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fenohr Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Jim R, Swede is correct, In Europe did not come out in the US until the Landmark issue. It may have been sceduled for release here, but that was around the time that Riverside was on the ropes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 The Europe lp is great! That and the Lighthouse date are my favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeway Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Portrait of Cannonball Cannonball Takes Charge Quintet at the Lighthouse All good ones. But I thought they would be too obscure. I'll divulge that my choice was Quintet in Chicago. Have people heard this album????? I can't believe no one else voted for this one. This is Miles group minus Miles. It's got Wabash, Limehouse Blues, Grand Central....a great gem. I agree. I consider "Something Else" more of a Miles album than a Cannonball album. It has MD's fingerprints all over it. I voted for the Chicago album also. Would it piss a lot of people off if I were to say that Cannonball made a lot of so-so albums? Sorry. There is a generic quality to much of his playing, and many of the albums. A few Cannonball albums go a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Okaay. . . NOW YOU'VE DONE IT! I totally disagree with your assessment of Cannonball! But it does eerily mirror the way I feel about . . . Lee Morgan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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