Shawn Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 In my, not so humble opinion, PT's last good album was Fear Of A Blank Planet, which from the interviews that Wilson gave at the time, was a album he felt compelled to make (compelled in a good, creative way). Wilson tried very hard to make FOABP a hit record, but it mostly got overlooked. After that, I felt the albums had their moments, but the spark was gone. I would not be troubled if PT called it a day, besides, my favorite PT era ends with Deadwing, which was a departure from the more prog-rock style, moving toward the Opeth thing that Wilson got obsessed with. I don't really hear much Opeth in PT's albums. If you follow the chronology, after Wilson produced Blackwater Park in 2001 and then Deliverance/Damnation in 2003...PT got heavier to a certain degree on In Absentia, Deadwing and FOABP. However, the heaviness in PT is of a completely different variety than what Opeth was doing, the riffs that Wilson used were closer to stuff like Tool, a more "modern sounding" approach which has never been Opeth's thing. I know that working with Mikael kicked in Wilson's more metallic approach, but I hear a very different conception at work. By the time they got to The Incident the heavier approach started to dissipate and the full-on Pink Floyd worship came back again...PT's early albums owed alot to stuff like Meddle...while The Incident focused on the Animals era. I'm fine if Porcupine Tree calls it a day at this point, I love them dearly and hope they continue, but I'm sure Wilson will continue to make interesting music on his own. Now the next big question is what direction Opeth will take after Heritage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Nice interview with Richard Barbieri, who goes back and discusses the evolution of PT's different studio albums. http://www.rocksquare.com/community/featuredartists/1548 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Really enjoying Octane Twisted (although unfortunately I don't have the DVD). Standouts: hearing the full 13-minute version of "Even Less" performed live, Stars Die and the slamming version of "Dislocated Day". The Incident also works really well live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I'm enjoying it too, and am really surprised to see negative comments about the sound, it's quite good. The DVD is nice but not as well-shot as previous video of the band, i think they were unhappy with the shoot overall and so decided to just offer it to the diehards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Nice interview with Richard Barbieri, who goes back and discusses the evolution of PT's different studio albums. http://www.rocksquar...redartists/1548 I went back and re-read this. What's even more interesting to me than Richard's comments about the individual albums are the comments about Steven. He obviously has some great respect for Steven as a songwriter, but how he interacts with the rest of the PT band members seems like an issue for Barbieri, as well as how SW wasn't exactly "professional" early on. I wonder if this is indicative of tension between SW and RB, and maybe a factor in why SW wasn't ready to work with PT again any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I'm enjoying it too, and am really surprised to see negative comments about the sound, it's quite good. I think part of the disappointment for some (not me) might be that the Anesthetize blu-ray was considered one of the finest examples of how to present a live show (both sound & video) - it was even listed in those sorts of audiophile threads by people who didn't even necessarily like the band. And Octane doesn't have that sort of clarity to it. I still haven't had a chance to watch the DVD yet. Funny thing was when I ordered it I thought the 2nd CD was the bonus, not the DVD. I was so eager to get a live lengthy "Even Less" that I pre-ordered very quickly without getting the facts straight. In the end whichever was the bonus I had to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Granted, it's not the hires sonic wonder that is Anesthetize. Sounds good to me though, and not as bad as some (especially one person on the Hoffman board) make it out to seem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 The tracks from the Royal Albert Hall at the end of disc 2 do sound better than the Chicago show, but of course the incredible acoustics of that venue probably play into that. People on the Hoffman board are generally nuts anyway, they all stand so close to the painting to see the brush strokes they completely miss the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Well, there are some there that way, but not "generally" in my estimation. Anyway, the price for the two cd set makes this an easy recommendation to Porcupine fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 My copy finally arrived today, along with North Atlantic Oscillation's "Grappling Hooks" 2 disc set, and Engineer's "In Praise of More" 2 disc set. My personal Black Friday purchases I guess! Now if I can convince the kids to find somewhere to go, I can crank it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Glad yours made it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Thanks Lon - haven't spun it yet. Took my son to see Life of Pi this afternoon instead. Really enjoyed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Nice interview with Richard Barbieri, who goes back and discusses the evolution of PT's different studio albums. http://www.rocksquar...redartists/1548 Thanks for sharing that, very interesting article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 And I got to play the DVD on Friday afternoon. Quite the bonus! We sure are lucky as fans to have 3 PT DVDs to choose from. Since I was in need of glasses when I saw them around this time it's good to be able to see the screen effects more clearly now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Well, if we're not gonna have any new PT for a while, at least SW is doing some vault things - first up is a reissue of Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, which is the companion album to On the Sunday of Life (both of these two albums were compilations of SW's early PT cassettes). I've got YHD on vinyl (and a cd that i'm not sure if it's truly legit or a bootleg from Russia or somewhere - probably the latter), so I'll be getting this. Also of more interest probably, will be a 10th anniversary reissue of In Absentia! From a new interview with SW in Innerviews: "Porcupine Tree’s In Absentia turned 10 years old last year. It’s 11 years old this year. We’ll reissue that as a special edition with a Blu-ray disc featuring the video material we have. There were a lot of other tracks recorded during those sessions that didn’t make the album, like “Meantime,” “Drown with Me,” “Chloroform,” “Futile,” and “Orchidia.” We’re going to bring all of those together, perhaps along with some instrumental versions and demo versions. It’ll be an all-singing, all-dancing experience." Edited February 9, 2013 by Aggie87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Sounds good, Aggggdgggggggigggggggggcggggggkggggggg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Glad to see the deluxe edition of In Absentia will be coming out, I was hoping they would eventually reissue the album and include the Futile EP. There are many great demos from those sessions that have been traded in bootleg form, I hope we'll get to see some of those...especially the full length version of Strip The Soul which clocks in at 16 minutes. Not sure about Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, I'm not that crazy about that era of PT, I kind of start with "The Sky Moves Sideways". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 You guys know about this? Steven Wilson – Hand. Cannot. Erase. USA Tour 2015 Tix go on sale for the SF show on Friday. Very reasonably priced, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 You guys know about this? Steven Wilson – Hand. Cannot. Erase. USA Tour 2015 Tix go on sale for the SF show on Friday. Very reasonably priced, too! That's convenient for me, I work across the street from the Wiltern Theater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 You guys know about this? Steven Wilson – Hand. Cannot. Erase. USA Tour 2015 Tix go on sale for the SF show on Friday. Very reasonably priced, too! That's convenient for me, I work across the street from the Wiltern Theater. That IS convenient! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Got my tix today. Now I just have to wait until....................JUNE 14!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Would be nice if he decided to pass through Texas again some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Tickets haven't gone on sale for the L.A. show yet, but I'm checking daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Would be nice if he decided to pass through Texas again some day. How about Philly on May 28, Aggggggggggg? Edited January 11, 2015 by BFrank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Would be nice if he decided to pass through Texas again some day. How about Philly on May 28, Aggggggggggg? Now why on earth do you think I have any affiliation with Philly?? Yeah, might have to consider that one for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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