Bright Moments Posted November 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Both Moran's "Bandwagon" and Lovano's "On This Day" were engineered by Kurt Lundvall, none other than the son of Blue Note President Bruce Lundvall. I have a feeling that anyone else would have been canned had they engineered two live discs (by high profile talent, to boot) that sounded this crappy. now i understand!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnyhill Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 I listened to "Bandwagon" on headphones recently, and I found that it improved the listening experience. I picked up a lot more than I had on open speakers. Perhaps he monitored on headphones only, and since all models sound different, it may have sounded fine on his, but not on others or speakers. If so, a newbie's error ..... Very possible. BTW, Lovano defended Lundvall in a recent letter to (I think) Downbeat. He said that he wouldn't have released something he felt was inferior. Lovano didn't have to go to the local record store and pay $18.99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeway Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 I listened to "Bandwagon" on headphones recently, and I found that it improved the listening experience. I picked up a lot more than I had on open speakers. Perhaps he monitored on headphones only, and since all models sound different, it may have sounded fine on his, but not on others or speakers. If so, a newbie's error ..... Very possible. BTW, Lovano defended Lundvall in a recent letter to (I think) Downbeat. He said that he wouldn't have released something he felt was inferior. Lovano's letter can be found in the current issue of Jazz Times (not Downbeat). Maybe he is sincere, but maybe he is also buttering up Bruce L. a little bit, despite the mess that Sonny made of the recording. Keep the boss (and chief contract signer) on your side- never know when you will record another "Sinatra" or "Caruso" album Had anyone heard of Kurt L. before he made (?) these 2 recordings? Is this just a sheer case of nepotism, or does Ludvall fil have any standing in the recording field? To think this is the company that had RVG doing its remote recordings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Lovano's letter can be found in the current issue of Jazz Times (not Downbeat). Right. Couldn't remember which. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 According to AMG, these are the things K. Lundvall has worked on, so he's been doing his thing a bit longer than you probably realized. By the way, who's "Tor Lundvall"? Cannonball Adderley Definitive Cannonball Adderley (2002) Mastering Chet Baker Definitive Chet Baker (2002) Mastering Etta Baker Railroad Bill (1999) Mastering Boyz II Men Extras (1999) Engineer Boyz II Men Ballad Collection (2000) Engineer Luiz Bueno & Badal Roy Musica (2000) Engineer, Mastering, Mixing Mariah Carey Daydream (1995) Engineer Nat King Cole Definitive Nat "King" Cole (2002) Mastering Dana Cunningham Dancing at the Gate (2001) Mastering Miles Davis Complete Birth of the Cool [blue... (1998) Editing, Mastering Celine Dion Falling into You (1996) Engineer Bob Dorough Too Much Coffee Man (2000) Mastering Bob Dorough & Dave... Who's on First (2000) Mastering Ann Dyer & the No Good... Revolver: A New Spin (1999) Mastering Richard Elliot Ballads (2001) Mastering Liberty Ellman Tactiles (2003) Mastering Kevin Eubanks Live at Bradley's (1994) Assistant Producer Bill Evans Paris Concert, Edition One (1979) Mastering Bill Evans Paris Concert, Edition Two (1979) Mastering Ella Fitzgerald Ella for Lovers (2003) Mastering Ella Fitzgerald Diva Series (2003) Mastering Tommy Flanagan Sunset and the Mockingbird: The... (1998) Mastering Stan Getz & Albert Dailey Poetry (1983) Remastering Grant Green Alive! (1970) Mastering Grant Green Alive! [bonus Tracks] (2000) Mastering Guitar Gabriel Deep in the South (1999) Mastering, Recording Algia Mae Hinton Honey Babe (1999) Mastering John Dee Holeman Bull Durham Blues (1999) Mastering Instrumental Acoustek (2000) Mastering Richard Leo Johnson Fingertip Ship (1999) Mastering Lee Konitz/Brad Mehldau... Alone Together (1996) Engineer Lee Konitz Another Shade of Blue (1999) Engineer Joe Lovano & Gonzalo... Flying Colors (1997) Assistant Engineer Joe Lovano On This Day...At the Vanguard (2003) Mastering, Mixing, Recording Tor Lundvall Ice (1999) Mastering Tor Lundvall Mist Mastering Carmen McRae Diva Series (2003) Mastering Barbara Montgomery Little Sunflower (2002) Mastering Jason Moran Modernistic (2002) Mastering Jason Moran Bandwagon (2003) Engineer, Mastering, Mixing Gary Morgan & Panamericana Live at Birdland (2003) Mastering Greg Osby St. Louis Shoes (2003) Engineer, Mastering Charlie Parker Washington Concerts (2001) Remastering Neal Pattman Prison Blues (1999) Mastering, Recording Michel Petrucciani 100 Hearts (1983) Digital Remastering Michel Petrucciani Trio Live at the Village Vanguard (1984) Digital Remastering Pieces of a Dream Ahead to the Past (1999) Mastering Pieces of a Dream Sensual Embrace: The Soul Ballads (2001) Mastering Lonnie Plaxico Melange (2001) Mastering Bud Powell Definitive Bud Powell (2002) Mastering Dan Rose Water's Rising (1999) Mastering, Recording Selena Dreaming of You (1995) Assistant Engineer Anoushka Shankar Anourag (2000) Mastering The Sighs Different (1996) Assistant Engineer Jimmy Smith Definitive Jimmy Smith (2002) Mastering Squonk Opera Bigsmorgasbordwunderwerk (2000) Mastering Art Tatum Definitive Art Tatum (2002) Mastering John Gentry Tennyson Europa (2000) Mastering McCoy Tyner Definitive McCoy Tyner (2002) Mastering The Wild Magnolias Life Is a Carnival (1999) Mastering Phil Woods & Johnny... Rev and I (1998) Mastering Various Artists Compassion: Special Message from... (2001) Engineer, Editing, Mastering, Mixing, Sequencing Assistant Various Artists Smooth Jazz Hear and Now (2003) Mastering Various Artists Jazz Hear and Now (2003) Mastering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 "a bit longer"? Looks to me like 95% of the list was done in the past 4 years. That said, I recall the sound on the Konitz/Mehldau/Haden disc, for instance, as being entirely acceptable, though a tad dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 That said, I recall the sound on the Konitz/Mehldau/Haden disc, for instance, as being entirely acceptable, though a tad dark. Oh, I remember that disc. I thought it sounded truly bad - and I'm normally not one with that much of a critical ear about recording quality. I think I kept the disc for a year, and then traded it off. REALLY bad SQ - as I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 (edited) Yeah, most of that list also appeared to be remasters and compilations. Not exactly the kind of "real world" experience that would prepare one for recording live sessions at the Vanguard. Compare these discs to Vanguard recordings from the 60s. Those guys had fewer technical advantages, yet they made much better sounding albums. I wonder if Kurt has a hearing problem. Edited November 17, 2003 by Alexander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted November 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 o.k guys, i listeneed to it in the car. much better, but the sound quality still stinks. could not hear the vocals or the voices of the artists. i was able to appreciate the music however i stand by the title of this thread: DON'T BUY THIS CD. (Buy Modernistic instead!). B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifton Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 I'm not anything resembling an audiophile, but even I noticed the murky sound on "Bandwagon". However, the music is so good I bought it anyway. BTW regarding the previously mentioned Martial Solal "NY-1" disc, do not miss it. IMHO one of the best piano trio discs in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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