jlhoots Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 The Connection (1960) is a Redd album, but I've always thought of it as equally (at least) Jackie's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Thanks for that, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 The Connection (1960) is a Redd album, but I've always thought of it as equally (at least) Jackie's. If non leader albums are included then "Davis Cup" and of course "Cool and Struttin" must figure as some of the best. I'd love to hear a decent vinyl copy of Davis Cup as it and New Soil are top drawer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Was so thankful to be able to witness McLean, Moncur and Hutcherson in concert years ago - Iridium, if memory serves. I interviewed him and he was very kind and gracious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) I liked him when he was paired up with Lee Morgan, too - like Tom Cat, Charisma, Sixth Sense. Don't forget Lee-Way with Jackie's slashing solo on These Are Soulful Days! Edited November 26, 2014 by Cali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stryker Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 I liked him when he was paired up with Lee Morgan, too - like Tom Cat, Charisma, Sixth Sense. Don't forget Lee-Way with Jackie's slashing solo on These Are Soulful Days! And "Cornbread." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Ok, hello Sixth Sense, hello Frank Mitchell, hello too much reverb, but hello who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 I liked him when he was paired up with Lee Morgan, too - like Tom Cat, Charisma, Sixth Sense. Don't forget Lee-Way with Jackie's slashing solo on These Are Soulful Days! And "Cornbread." That one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Ok, hello Sixth Sense, hello Frank Mitchell, hello too much reverb, but hello who cares? I didn't when I first heard it on a Liberty cassette. Still a major favourite ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 [W]ouldn't it be worth a consideration to ponder a pairing of Jackie with Alan Shorter and/or his book? I'd take that over the Ornette record. McLean and Al Shorter playing Shorter's tunes — some truly new gospel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Another; among my favorite JM sideman appearances... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 My favorite Jackie 60's leader date would probably be the one with Woody Shaw and Tyrone Washington. If only... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Have you heard it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 I like the sideman appearances mentioned here, but they also go to showcase that Jackie brought a real vision to his leader dates. Can't say that about all of his contemporaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Another; among my favorite JM sideman appearances... Another one I listened to this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stryker Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) Off topic: The cat who really shines on "Byrd in Flight" -- besides the leader -- is Hank Mobley. The tracks with him were recorded in early 1960, right at the start of his great 2-year run that gave us "Soul Station," "Roll Call," "Workout" and "Another Workout." This is a quintessential Blue Note hard bop track with a particularly great, note-perfect Mobley solo. So fluid rhythmically and melodically. So poised. Edited November 26, 2014 by Mark Stryker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Byrd in Flight is DB's best BN session . Everything is perfect on this date. The bonus tracks on the Conn edition are equally good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stryker Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) Byrd in Flight is DB's best BN session . Everything is perfect on this date. The bonus tracks on the Conn edition are equally good.We should probably take this into a Byrd forum for more discussion but for me "Royal Flush" is Byrd's best all-around BN, even though his chops had definitely begun to slide by the fall of 1961 when it was recorded. But between the playing of everyone, the quality and diversity of Byrd's compositions, the formal debut of Herbie Hancock and the Warren/Higgins beat I like it bestReasonable people can certainly disagree ... Edited November 26, 2014 by Mark Stryker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Byrd in Flight is DB's best BN session . Everything is perfect on this date. The bonus tracks on the Conn edition are equally good. We should probably take this into a Byrd forum for more discussion but for me "Royal Flush" is Byrd's best all-around BN, even though his chops had definitely begun to slide by the fall of 1961 when it was recorded. But between the playing of everyone, the quality and diversity of Byrd's compositions, the formal debut of Herbie Hancock and the Warren/Higgins beat I like it best Reasonable people can certainly disagree ... Good point I forgot about "Royal Flush" which is indeed of a very high calibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 ... for me "Royal Flush" is Byrd's best all-around BN ... I have a soft spot for this one. My first Byrd purchase (on vinyl, back in the day). But, for me, the Half Note recordings take the cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Here's an under-the-radar Jackie sideman date that's really solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) Have you heard it? I wish, but no. I've heard told variously that the tapes are lost, and/or that the drummer on the date was sufficiently 'not good' enough to have soured the whole session (supposedly the reason Jackie never wanted it released). Edited November 29, 2014 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 McLean BN leader dates 1959 • Jackie McLean - Jackie's Bag (Blue Note BLP 4051) • Jackie McLean - Vertigo (Blue Note LT-1085) • Jackie McLean - New Soil (Blue Note BLP 4013) • Jackie McLean - Swing, Swang, Swingin' (Blue Note BLP 4024)1960 Larry • Jackie McLean - Capuchin Swing (Blue Note BLP 4038) • Jackie McLean/Tina Brooks - Street Singer (Blue Note (J) GXF-3067)1961 • Jackie McLean - Bluesnik (Blue Note BLP 4067) • Jackie McLean - A Fickle Sonance (Blue Note BLP 4089)1962 (age 30) • Jackie McLean - Let Freedom Ring (Blue Note BLP 4106)• • Jackie McLean - Hipnosis (Blue Note BN-LA483-H2) • Jackie McLean - Tippin' The Scales (Blue Note (J) GXF-3062) •1963 • Jackie McLean - One Step Beyond (Blue Note BLP 4137) • • Jackie McLean - Destination... Out! (Blue Note BLP 4165) • Jackie McLean - It's Time! (Blue Note BLP 4179) • Jackie McLean - Action (Blue Note BLP 4218)1965 • Jackie McLean - Right Now! (Blue Note BLP 4215) • • Jackie McLean - Jacknife (Blue Note BN-LA457-H2) • Jackie McLean - Consequence (Blue Note LT-994)1967 • Jackie McLean - New And Old Gospel (Blue Note BLP 4262) • Jackie McLean - 'Bout Soul (Blue Note BST 84284) • Jackie McLean - Demon's Dance (Blue Note BST 84345) Larry has done a nice job by showing Jackie's sessions by the year they were recorded. It makes it very clear that the albums i like the most are from 1959, 1960, and 1961. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 More accurate (got some dates wrong, lopped off year indications by mistake in copying) and more complete (includes sideman dates): 1960 Freddie Redd - The Music From "The Connection" (Blue Note BLP 4027) Jimmy Smith - Plain Talk (Blue Note BST 84296) Jimmy Smith - Open House (Blue Note BST 84269) Jackie McLean - Capuchin Swing (Blue Note BLP 4038) Lee Morgan - Lee-Way (Blue Note BLP 4034) Donald Byrd - Byrd In Flight (Blue Note BLP 4048) Freddie Redd - Shades Of Redd (Blue Note BLP 4045) The Complete Blue Note Recordings Of Freddie Redd (Mosaic MR3-124) Jackie McLean/Tina Brooks - Street Singer (Blue Note (J) GXF-3067) 1961 Jackie McLean - Bluesnik (Blue Note BLP 4067) Jackie McLean - Bluesnik (Blue Note CDP 7 84067 2) Jackie McLean - A Fickle Sonance (Blue Note BLP 4089) Kenny Dorham And Jackie McLean - Inta Somethin' (Pacific Jazz PJ-41) 1962 (age 30) Jackie McLean - Let Freedom Ring (Blue Note BLP 4106) Kenny Dorham - Matador (United Artists UAJ 14007) Jackie McLean - Hipnosis (Blue Note BN-LA483-H2) Jackie McLean - Tippin' The Scales (Blue Note (J) GXF-3062) Jackie McLean - Tippin' The Scales (Blue Note CDP 7 84427 2) 1963 Jackie McLean - One Step Beyond (Blue Note BLP 4137) Jackie McLean - One Step Beyond (Blue Note CDP 7 46821 2) Jackie McLean - Destination... Out! (Blue Note BLP 4165) Grachan Moncur III - Evolution (Blue Note BLP 4153) 1964 Jackie McLean - It's Time! (Blue Note BLP 4179) Lee Morgan - Tom Cat (Blue Note LT-1058) Jackie McLean - Action (Blue Note BLP 4218) 1965 Jackie McLean - Right Now! (Blue Note BLP 4215) Jackie McLean - Right Now! (Blue Note CDP 7 84215 2) Lee Morgan - Cornbread (Blue Note BLP 4222) Jackie McLean - Jacknife (Blue Note BN-LA457-H2) Lee Morgan - Infinity (Blue Note LT-1091) Jackie McLean - Consequence (Blue Note LT-994) 1966 Lee Morgan - Charisma (Blue Note BST 84312) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 plus the 67 dates listed previously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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