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Neither aspirational enough or realized enough to be particularly inspiring.

In truth (and with a buttload full of hindsight made possible by all kinds of then-unknown-to-the-beneral-public recordings and such), what this music sounds like to me is like, Chick and Holland kept pushing Miles to go more "free" or "out" or whatever adjective you want to use, and Miles gave them their head to a good degree, but not totally, and finally told them to get their own band if that's what they wanted to do. This music sounds like that - like a Lost Quintet Gone Free - a lot more than I realized when just listening to the two LPs of it that I had back years ago.

The problem, though, is one of personnel. Miles held those bands together even as he let the people play their thing. Their is no suck connective force here. Woody Shaw is not Miles (nor does it seem that he's given that much to do anyway), Benny Maupin is not Wayne (and he gets in some good playing, but geez, take most any of his spots here, listen to what's going on underneath, and imagine what would be going on if Wayne was there instead(, and Hubert Laws is technically but (mostly) not temperamentally a good fit for what's going on here.

So before too much longer, Corea and Holland would break from Miles, find Altschul, and then Braxton, and that's a whole 'nother story. But this music right here, mostly, as they say, "of historical interest", imo.

 

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Neither aspirational enough or realized enough to be particularly inspiring.

In truth (and with a buttload full of hindsight made possible by all kinds of then-unknown-to-the-beneral-public recordings and such), what this music sounds like to me is like, Chick and Holland kept pushing Miles to go more "free" or "out" or whatever adjective you want to use, and Miles gave them their head to a good degree, but not totally, and finally told them to get their own band if that's what they wanted to do. This music sounds like that - like a Lost Quintet Gone Free - a lot more than I realized when just listening to the two LPs of it that I had back years ago.

The problem, though, is one of personnel. Miles held those bands together even as he let the people play their thing. Their is no suck connective force here. Woody Shaw is not Miles (nor does it seem that he's given that much to do anyway), Benny Maupin is not Wayne (and he gets in some good playing, but geez, take most any of his spots here, listen to what's going on underneath, and imagine what would be going on if Wayne was there instead(, and Hubert Laws is technically but (mostly) not temperamentally a good fit for what's going on here.

So before too much longer, Corea and Holland would break from Miles, find Altschul, and then Braxton, and that's a whole 'nother story. But this music right here, mostly, as they say, "of historical interest", imo.

 

Very interesting thoughts ! 

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Done a lot of listening to old favorites lately when home due to some component swapping and tube-rolling, and yesterday I didn't get much listening in as I was with my Dad all day.

Things are settled nicely and I'm listening today for pleasure! I started off with Antonio Carlos Jobim "Tide" which is a great Deodata-arranged session that I hadn't listened to in too long. . . .

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Then I had a hankering for Ms Betty Carter, the dynamic bandleader and trail-blazing singer. This is one of her great Verve releases, "Droppin' Things" on Verve cd. There was no one like her!

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Then I moved on to Miles Davis, "Miles Smiles," the 20 bit Sony LP facsimile cd reissue. . . . TONY!

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And I'm listening now to a rare mother-daughter jazz release, Toshiko Akiyoshi and Monday Michiru "Jazz Conversations"
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Featuring the now late Mr. Bill Smith on clarinet.

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Chet Baker with the NDR Big Band.  I'm so used to hearing the Chet Baker of this era (late 1980's, 1987 in particular here) playing in trio, quartet or at most quintet settings, that it is somewhat disorienting to hear him backed by a full big band.  I will have to give this a second listen to really put it all together and properly evaluate it.

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