dprfish Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 Reading about Hilton Ruiz in the Sam Rivers thread, I decided to seek some stuff out, and found this interesting: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) I must hereby confess that although intellectually I've always known that the way the name of this tune must surely be actually pronounced is far different -- and here's the confession part -- I have always *mentally* 'heard' the name of this song pronounced as "corea" (which sounds like the country "Korea"). Yeah, I *know* that isn't right (and I've always known it), but -- damn it -- that's the way my brain first filed it in the 'great' (really more like 'sorry-ass') filing cabinet in my head. I've never once tried to say the name of this tune out loud to anyone (nor have I ever heard anyone ever say it out loud, save for once a few months ago) -- so how it 'sounds' to me is purely my own mental construction. But that's how it got filed up in my noggin 30 years ago, and it just got stuck that way. Probably a hundred other examples like that I could give -- mostly classical composer names, a few jazz musician names, some place-names too -- stuff I know isn't right, but that's just how I've "thought" about it in my mind's ear (which is stronger than my mind's eye, when it comes to language things -- although oddly, I often have trouble remembering names until I've SEEN them in print). And a few words even. I've never been able to spell holler as anything other than "hollar" without some real conscious effort. I've always spelled it "hollar" - and even though I know that's wrong, that's just how I spell it, cuz that's how it got stuck in my brain from the git-go. Random non sequitur de jour. Edited August 28, 2019 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) Very nice performance. Love la musica latina. The alto saxophone guy is excellent. Giovanni Hidalgo is on congas. He's playing his signature "Palladium" tumbas by Latin Percussion. I have their "Galaxy" tumbas, also a Giovanni signature range, with the same color but no hoops. The Palladium range offers the fairly rare super tumbadora size, but lacks the requinto, at the other end. That piece is on Lee Morgan's superb "Cornbread" album, which has a dream lineup. Thanks for posting. Edited August 28, 2019 by Shrdlu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) More Hilton Ruiz playing jazz. Here is his LP on the DENON label A real hard "cookin'" crew with long solos and great soloists. Highly recommended. Edited December 5, 2019 by jazzcorner text correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sonnymax Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, jazzcorner said: There exist obviously 2 Hilton Ruiz playing jazz. Why do you say there are two? Who is the other Hilton Ruiz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, sonnymax said: Why do you say there are two? Who is the other Hilton Ruiz? On top of this thread the artist looked like a sax player to me. But he is obviously not the leader So you seem to be correct. The speaker in that clip looks like the Hilton Ruiz I know so I have to correct my post. Thanks for the INFO ;-}} Edited December 5, 2019 by jazzcorner text edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 I was in the audience for this one. Giovanni Hidalgo in the lineup as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, sidewinder said: I was in the audience for this one. Giovanni Hidalgo in the lineup as well. Great. I like his style very much (even as Bill Evans & Oscar Peterson fan). Living in a small town near the Rhine river there is not much live jazz available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) Saw him quite a few times - both with George Coleman (smiling Billy Higgins on drums) and various groups of his own. I think the last time was at Royce Hall in LA and it was free ! The RCA Novus releases (‘El Camino’, ‘Strut’) are recommended. Edited December 5, 2019 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 10 hours ago, sidewinder said: Saw him quite a few times - both with George Coleman (smiling Billy Higgins on drums) and various groups of his own. I think the last time was at Royce Hall in LA and it was free ! The RCA Novus releases (‘El Camino’, ‘Strut’) are recommended. I also saw him with George Coleman, Ray Drummond on bass and smiling Billy Higgins on drums ! It must have been early in 1979. I couldn´t have recognized Hilton Ruiz from that Video. I remember him as a small tiny guy….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 I saw him with George at least a couple of times. REAL sad what happened to him. His first solo album was very nice. Here's a track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, BFrank said: I saw him with George at least a couple of times. REAL sad what happened to him. His first solo album was very nice. Here's a track. Underappreciated little SteepleChase gem .... btw Buster Williams (!!) .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 "Ceora" by Lee Morgan, I hadn´t known that tune since I didn´t have the Album "Cornbread", but the trumpetplayer we play with had suggested it for our set list, since than I love to play it, nice changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Gheorghe said: I also saw him with George Coleman, Ray Drummond on bass and smiling Billy Higgins on drums ! It must have been early in 1979. I couldn´t have recognized Hilton Ruiz from that Video. I remember him as a small tiny guy….. Pretty sure it was Herbie Lewis on bass when I saw this group. ‘Amsterdam After Dark’ had just been released and they covered many of the tracks. Both Coleman and Higgins were colossal ! 22 minutes ago, soulpope said: Underappreciated little SteepleChase gem .... btw Buster Williams (!!) .... Got that one on vinyl - will dig out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, sidewinder said: Pretty sure it was Herbie Lewis on bass when I saw this group. ‘Amsterdam After Dark’ had just been released and they covered many of the tracks. Both Coleman and Higgins were colossal ! Btw there is a nice Ruiz + Lewis + Higgins "live" @ Keystone Corner release on Timeless .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, soulpope said: Btw there is a nice Ruiz + Lewis + Higgins "live" @ Keystone Corner release on Timeless .... Not heard that one - interesting ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnymax Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, soulpope said: Btw there is a nice Ruiz + Lewis + Higgins "live" @ Keystone Corner release on Timeless .... Would you please provide some more info on this release? I can't find mention of it anywhere. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gheorghe said: I also saw him with George Coleman, Ray Drummond on bass and smiling Billy Higgins on drums ! It must have been early in 1979. Mentioning George Coleman reminds me of a concert we had in our private jazzclub in Koblenz, Germany with the George Coleman Octet on Dec. 02, 1981 George Coleman (ts & Leader) / Sal Nistico (ts) / Danny Moore (tp) / Mario Rivera (bs) / Bobby Watson (as) / Harold Mabern (p) / Clint Houston (b) / Billy Higgisns (dr) Have to check my fotoarchive for some fotos I shot. Edited December 6, 2019 by jazzcorner typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 It still bugs me that the NO police department classified Ruiz's death as accidental from a fall. I guess in New Orleans, people accidentally fall and bash their heads onto a curb 3 or 4 times before they lapse into a coma all the time. https://www.knkx.org/post/sad-and-mysterious-death-hilton-ruiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 4 hours ago, sonnymax said: Would you please provide some more info on this release? I can't find mention of it anywhere. Thanks. 5 hours ago, sidewinder said: Not heard that one - interesting ! SORRY guys, mixed this up with a Tete Montoliu led trio date .... my senior moments are increasing rapidly 😪 .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 6 hours ago, bresna said: It still bugs me that the NO police department classified Ruiz's death as accidental from a fall. I guess in New Orleans, people accidentally fall and bash their heads onto a curb 3 or 4 times before they lapse into a coma all the time. https://www.knkx.org/post/sad-and-mysterious-death-hilton-ruiz Yeah. Unbelievable! BTW, ‘Amsterdam After Dark’ is a gem, for SURE! "(New) Arrival" from that album is on Hilton's "Piano Man" album, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 8 hours ago, jazzcorner said: Mentioning George Coleman reminds me of a concert we had in our private jazzclub in Koblenz, Germany with the George Coleman Octet on Dec. 02, 1981 George Coleman (ts & Leader) / Sal Nistico (ts) / Danny Moore (tp) / Mario Rivera (bs) / Bobby Watson (as) / Harold Mabern (p) / Clint Houston (b) / Billy Higgisns (dr) Have to check my fotoarchive for some fotos I shot. I saw that group too - I think it had Frank Strozier on alto though and it might have been Idris Muhammed on drums. Unfortunately, I didn’t take notes ! Ronnie Scott’s, circa 1980. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 8 hours ago, jazzcorner said: Mentioning George Coleman reminds me of a concert we had in our private jazzclub in Koblenz, Germany with the George Coleman Octet on Dec. 02, 1981 George Coleman (ts & Leader) / Sal Nistico (ts) / Danny Moore (tp) / Mario Rivera (bs) / Bobby Watson (as) / Harold Mabern (p) / Clint Houston (b) / Billy Higgisns (dr) Have to check my fotoarchive for some fotos I shot. Was a treat for sure .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 6 hours ago, bresna said: It still bugs me that the NO police department classified Ruiz's death as accidental from a fall. I guess in New Orleans, people accidentally fall and bash their heads onto a curb 3 or 4 times before they lapse into a coma all the time. https://www.knkx.org/post/sad-and-mysterious-death-hilton-ruiz I'll tell you what does happen in New Orleans all the time - people with indulgences fuck up with the wrong people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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