Quasimado Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Just reading an old ‘Do the Math’ interview Ethan Iverson did with Wayne Shorter (2015). Wayne talks briefly about appreciating the Tristano people (among others), and Ethan has added a brief excerpt from an unreleased session of Wayne soloing with the Johnny Eaton group (1956), playing “What is this Thing Called Love”. I had heard talk of Warne being an influence on Wayne, and never paid it any special heed, but here it sounds as if Wayne is almost channeling Warne in his solo, even including quotes from the melody of Lee’s “Subconscious Lee” (same changes). Wayne was obviously very familiar with the music of the Tristano people, and of Warne in particular. You can listen to the excerpt - it's about halfway through the interview – a fine solo … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasimado Posted January 5 Author Report Share Posted January 5 The site is here: https://ethaniverson.com/interview-with-wayne-shorter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 I discovered Plugged Nickel Wayne about the same time as I began a deeper dive into .Wayne. The kindred spiritness was immediately apparent imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 "Whoa. Uh oh, spaghetti-o! Now we’re talking!" Great opening line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 5 hours ago, Quasimado said: ... and Ethan has added a brief excerpt from an unreleased session of Wayne soloing with the Johnny Eaton group (1956), playing “What is this Thing Called Love”. Is this THE Johnny Eaton of the below release? https://www.discogs.com/master/1321415-Johnny-Eaton-And-His-Princetonians-College-Jazz-Modern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Not all that comparable to the excerpt featuring Wayne Shorter but not quite as subpar IMO as the devastating review by Nat Hentoff in Down Beat reads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Who’s “Jimmy”? WS: Oh, yeah. Well, actually a lot of us played like him. There’s a guy from Jersey City, what’s his name, Jimmy…he played really like Charlie Parker. It was a close match. He knew all the stuff, “Star Eyes” and all the breaks and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said: Who’s “Jimmy”? WS: Oh, yeah. Well, actually a lot of us played like him. There’s a guy from Jersey City, what’s his name, Jimmy…he played really like Charlie Parker. It was a close match. He knew all the stuff, “Star Eyes” and all the breaks and all that. ? Jimmy Halperin. Not sure. Maybe not old enough. Edited January 5 by jlhoots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Rabshakeh said: "Whoa. Uh oh, spaghetti-o! Now we’re talking!" Great opening line. Yeah — reading that’s gonna keep a smile on my face pertineer all day! And I can SO hear Wayne saying that too — but not just hear him — it’s that look in his eyes as he said it (which is just as easy to imagine, as hearing him). Classic Wayne! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 That bit of Wayne/Warne is pretty wonderful. Fascinating interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 Good interview, although, in classic Iverson style, it ignores the last five decades entirely. You would think Shorter retired after he left Miles Davis and never recorded again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cayetano Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 On 1/5/2023 at 3:03 PM, Rooster_Ties said: Who’s “Jimmy”? WS: Oh, yeah. Well, actually a lot of us played like him. There’s a guy from Jersey City, what’s his name, Jimmy…he played really like Charlie Parker. It was a close match. He knew all the stuff, “Star Eyes” and all the breaks and all that. Jimmy Lyons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 I thought that at first, too, but Lyons wasn't in Jersey very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Not Jimmy Ford either, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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