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  6. John Coltrane - Ascension and Edition II

    in Discography

    Posted · Edited by Deepak

    The best source I know is the interview that Frank Kofsky did with Bob Thiele for the "Coda" John Coltrane Memorial Issue(May ,1968-- an issue I still have). And it says the opposite. Coltrane and Thiele thought the first take was better but Coltrane took a tape of take 2 home.When the first take was issued Trane called Thiele and said he'd been listening to take 2 and he liked it better. So they used Take 2 which is labeled Edition 11 for future pressings.

    I love Wikipedia but it's often wrong. (As is every other encyclopedia.)

    Thank you. And I agree with you on Wikipedia, which is why I was looking for the source of that information.

    Anyone have a link to Chuck's memories of one or some of the early (earliest?) public discoveries of the multiple released takes of Ascension - back in the day? Some fascinating discussion, as I recall. (On my iPhone at the moment.)

    Would love to read that!

  7. Classical Music Box Sets

    in Classical Discussion

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    When a box costs a dollar or two a disk, I'll take a risk and not worry if I love each and every disk in the box. I enjoy casting my net wide.

    Some labels actually do have a unique "personality". A box set on Mercury Living Presence or RCA Living Stereo makes sense. A box set on EMI or DGG doesn't really make the same kind of sense.

    I'm curious what differentiates RCA Living Stereo and Mercury Living Presence from EMI and DGG? The one area that stands out is the former two are audiophile favorite labels from Harry Pearson's talking them up. Is there anything that differentiates them musically and performance wise?

  8. John Coltrane - Ascension and Edition II

    in Discography

    Posted

    I am finally going to hear Ascension Edition II. I never picked it up on CD when it was reissued, but found a copy on vinyl for cheap. I'm very familiar with Ascension and enjoy it quite a bit. I'm curious which one everyone here prefers?

    Also this quote from Wikipedia:

    Two recordings of "Ascension" exist, called Edition I and Edition II. Edition I is the second recorded take of the composition and was originally released on Impulse in February 1966 (catalog number A-95). Because of vinyl limitations, it was divided into two parts. Edition II is the first take and Coltrane's preferred version.

    For the bolded part there is no reference. Does anyone know the source of this information?

  13. The Great Concert of Charles Mingus on vinyl

    in The Vinyl Frontier

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    Does anyone have the 3 LP set The Great Concert of Charles Mingus? It was released by Prestige on the green label. Pressed in the late 60s/early 70s.

    The CDs sound very poor. I know there were recording limitations, but it sounds severely rolled off as well. I'm wondering if the vinyl is any better?

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    I have a French stereo and also a Japanese mono copy.

    Both are very very good fidelity vinyl, but not on Prestige, both on America records ( 30 AM 003-004-005 )

    Thank you. What label is the French stereo pressing on?

  17. Hank Mobley - The Feelin's Good

    in New Releases

    Posted

    AP did No Room For Squares. I agree MM should have released the original sequence of Straight No Filter

    Ah, darn, you're right. But no matter - once one of these companies put out "No Room For Squares" or "The Turnaround" using the LP sequence of tunes, all of them should come out that way or else you get duplication of tunes.

    Michael Cuscuna wrote the album notes for the Music Matters reissue of The Feelin's Good. I can't really glean any new information why it was released this way. My only speculation is they wanted to release an album with all the March 7, '63 material on a single album.

  18. Hank Mobley - The Feelin's Good

    in New Releases

    Posted · Edited by Deepak

    i dont think ive seen that cover photo, so this is a comp?

    It's the same as the original "Straight No Filter" CD released in the late 80s. It's not the same as the LP of "Straight No Filter" so Music Matters decided to give it a new name & cover.

    Remember, when "The Turnaround". "Straight No Filter" and "No Room For Squares" were first released, Michael Cuscuna put the music onto CD in session order, which was very different from the original LPs. When they reissued these CDs (two in the RVG series and one in the Connoisseur series), they reverted back to the LP sequence.

    The thing I really don't get about Joe Harley's decision here is that he already reissued the original LP version of "No Room For Squares", which has two tunes that will be reissued on this new double LP. Why not just reissue the original LP sequenced version of "Straight No Filter"?

    Anyone who bought Music Matters version of "No Room For Squares" already has two of the tunes and when you're talking about a 45 rpm release, that's almost two LP sides.

    AP did No Room For Squares. I agree MM should have released the original sequence of Straight No Filter

  19. Hank Mobley - The Feelin's Good

    in New Releases

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    Joe Harley (one of the people in charge of Music Matters) has said on the Hoffman board that there are a few criteria they use when they choose what to reissue- do him and his brother (Ron) think the session is good musically. Will it be something that will sell well, remember these are $50 each. In some instances they have reissued albums they felt are exceptional, but caused some backlash from subscribers (ie Out to Lunch, Evolution, Destination Out!). And are the tapes in good condition/is the sound quality acceptable, though this is a secondary thought as they've released many lesser sounding titles.

    Overall looking at their catalog they have released plenty of adventurous titles beyond the scope of what has been released in the past. They've always said they aren't trying to recreate replicas of old reissues, so cover art differs in some cases.

    He has said he is not a fan of soul jazz. That's why there aren't many soul jazz titles. Chad Kassem (Analogue Productions, Acoustic Sounds) is a big soul jazz fan so his company has released lots of those Blue Note albums on 45 rpm LP and SACD.

    You can email Joe through their website. I haven't communicated with him recently, but he has promptly replied to my queries in the past.

    Unrelated to Music Matters, but it looks like EMI are archiving their Blue Note tapes in 32 bit/ 192 khz digital so hopefully many of these lesser known sessions will be available as downloads in the future, where the risk should be less than a physical product. I too would be ecstatic to see Natural Essence reissued.

  20. How we've changed re. Mosaic

    in Mosaic and other box sets...

    Posted · Edited by Deepak

    I wish they'd think outside the box a little bit more. I would like to see more avant-jazz material from the 1970s and later, personally. The reissues of big bands from the 1930s and 1940s get old for me really quickly.

    Agreed. I jumped at the opportunity to get the Sam Rivers Rivbea set.

  21. BNLA Series, more 999 Yen reissues from EMI Japan

    in Re-issues

    Posted

    I own the TOCJ-8676 release as well as the American CD reissue from the 90s. I've also got the original LP and a later Japanese LP reissue. Why the obsession? It's simply one of my favourite albums ever and I was searching for the best sounding version.

    From what I can recall nothing beats the original LP. I'll get back with a fresh opinion when I've had time to check the different versions again, probably this weekend.

    It was even worse than I remembered: I've got both Toshiba and King LP pressings in addition to the US Liberty release.

    Anyway, the Malcom Addey remix is better than I remembered and I clearly prefer it to the TOCJ-8676 which I find too loud and compressed. The mix and soundstage of Addey's remix is somewhat different from the original LP, but I can't say I prefer any of them over the other.

    I believe this was first reissued on CD in the "Collector's choice" series. Some (all?) titles were reprinted a few years later and my copy of the US CD version actually has "(p) © 1995" on it. It's the same 1988 Malcolm Addey remix though.

    Is the US Liberty LP mastered by RVG and is better than the Japan King?

    The HDTracks download is a touch on the bright side, but it has more resolution than the original CD.

  23. John Coltrane The Complete Sun Ship Sessions Mosaic 3 LP set

    in Mosaic and other box sets...

    Posted

    Damn, 30 bucks an lp!

    yeah ... given the price differential with the CDs and the nature of this materials - breakdowns, false starts, etc., I can't see why the lps would interest anyone ...

    The LPs will be great and LP-buyers don't have so much to go after any more. I am certainly going to buy the CDs (my LP set-up is a bit rusty). I think people will be interested and if my LP set-up were in order I would be too.

    I'm not sure... I'm a big fan of vinyl and will probably go for the CDs. I really don't want to listen to take after take of the same song on vinyl. I will miss the 12x12 size booklet which is easier to read.

    If you don't buy the vinyl from Mosaic, you can get 10% off at many retailers (ie SoundstageDirect) lowering the vinyl price to $81.

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