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1 hour ago, bresna said:
I don't like that this story has gotten so much traction with #MeToo headlines. To my eyes, it's really not. #MeToo is really for all the women who have been forced to remain silent in the face of sexual harassment and even rape.
To be clear, if Grand had come out and said that Steve Coleman asked her for sex as payment for sax lessons and she had to walk away without getting those sax lessons, she could post away with that #MeToo hashtag and we'd likely all be behind her. I know I would be. But that's not what happened here. The jerk inappropriately propositioned her and she said, "Sure," and then kept at it for 6 years. 6 years. That sounds more like #WeToo.
You've got it backwards: the story here is not that he made an inappropriate proposition: that happens in thousands of bars every night. The story is that he treated her badly once she became a paid member of his band: that's the #metoo part. But she kept going back for more abuse, so I have little sympathy for her. IMO #metoo is about men in positions of power abusing their power to to get sex from the women under them. The key word is power and it's why women often have to bend over backwards to depict their "victimizers" as powerful men. That's why Louis CK got a raw deal: he made an inappropriate proposition but he was not in a position of power to exploit anyone. Likewise, Coleman was not in a position of power over Grand -- at least not until she put him in one. It's not as if you have to fuck Steve Coleman to have a career in jazz. Steve Coleman is not the Harvey Weinstein of jazz.
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27 minutes ago, Guy Berger said:
This is gross but also a useful reminder that misogyny is still pretty common in jazz.
Your saying so doesn't make it untrue or misogynistic.
Also, unless occasionally listening to jazz and posting here counts, you can't say I'm "in jazz."
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19 hours ago, Niko said:
ok, you guys have won, I am speecheless... what do people mean when they say the jazz world is toxic and unwelcoming for women... hmm... and now she even dares to diminish his income by complaining about the sex-for-tutelage arrangement she willingly entered... and the judge refuses to let her pay for the financial damage because due to a new law she is entitled to having an opinion on what happened... such an unfair world for men in their best age
Perhaps the jazz world is is toxic and unwelcoming for women because everyone assumes they're all whores who got where they are on their knees. Grand used her pussy to gain entrance into the jazz world and then complains because her hard work, ability, and talent aren't taken seriously. She complains about the "systematic abuse of women all across the board" but does she ever stop to to consider that she's part of the problem? She writes "I'm letting it happen to other younger women, I'm letting people get away with things they shouldn't be getting away with." Yes, and why is that? Because when the next young woman approaches Coleman, he's going to expect the same thing from her that Grand willingly gave to him. If Grand had refused him, maybe he wouldn't expect it so readily. Grand teaches men not to respect women. Nobody respects a whore.
"The strangest thing is that he's told many people about my ability and my talent; but to me, he would say that I would've never gotten to where I was if it wasn't for him and for his attraction for me. It was like all the hard work I put in didn't matter to him."
"I was trying to keep a professional vibe while in public. I felt that people knowing that we were sleeping together would mean that they would not value me or respect my abilities..."
"What hurt me and discouraged me the most was the fact that it seemed my hard work or ability did not matter when it came down to being a professional musician."
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17 hours ago, mjazzg said:
I'm sorry but I still don't buy it. A 52 year old man presented by a 17/18 yo female offering whatever from whatever experience or perspective, that man should be thinking "this isn't right" no matter how much she"s pushing it or he's wanting it.
There's posts perilously close to victim blaming and prurience amongst other things in this thread which make for uncomfortable reading. As I said upthread, let's stop dancing on pinheads
I'm not victim blaming because there is no victim here. She could have walked away at any time long before they started having sex, back when he showed her photos of her he took while she slept, back when he told her hanging out "in my case and in the case of other young women, meant having sex with whoever you were hanging out with." And she could have walked away at any time afterwards. But she chose to keep coming back.
"I felt I HAD to do this because I was getting to be in the best musical environment I could possibly be in, and I didn't wanna lose that. ... There was many times where I played into his game. Where I said what he wanted to hear. Where I initiated conversation with him, and when I tried to keep in contact when he had told me to leave him alone. I simply felt that if I lost contact with him, I would lose contact with music, with my purpose in life, and with my work."
Women like this want to absolve themselves of all responsibility and blame all of their bad decisions on The Toxic Males.
Also, note that according to her own narrative she had turned 18 by the time he convinced her to "be intimate with him."
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2 hours ago, bertrand said:
1) At least digitize the damn tapes.
Who? Who do you propose pay to digitize the damn tapes? You seem as keen as anyone to see it get done, so why don't you put up the money?
2 hours ago, bertrand said:2) How do you know 'no one' would buy it?
Because you said "they have no commercial potential."
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13 minutes ago, bertrand said:
You're right, let's just let the tapes disintegrate because they have no commercial potential.
In what world do people pay to produce CDs that no one wants to buy?
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45 minutes ago, mjzee said:
How does one narrow the stereo width using Audacity (what are the settings or the workflow)? I'm assuming this is different than making it mono.
The way I did it was to split the track to mono then use the panning sliders. When it sounds the way you want, mix and render to recombine the two mono tracks into one stereo track. Finally, select Amplify and reduce the volume if the default value is negative.
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For my own entertainment I remixed this album to move the instruments nearer the center. Here's a sample, with the original below for comparison.
Original, wide-separation, mix:
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What's this about Sony no longer leasing to other labels? Not having access to 1/3 of the canon could be a death blow for MoFi.
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I wonder how or if the tapes travel. Presumably MoFi wants to work with the first generation tapes, and if the labels have any sense they want to loan those out about as much as museums want to ship Rembrandts.
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Am I correct in assuming that Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab and its like are independent companies unassociated with any major record label? They lease the masters from one of the big three, or whoever owns them, sprinkle a little fuckin' fairy dust over the bastard, and then sell the results to audiophiles? Is that how it works? So in theory I could start my own "audiophile" label if I could convince anyone to loan me the masters of a classic album.
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The time between the first two beats is much shorter than the time after the second beat, so he's keeping some odd time. Also, I think he's scat singing.
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More likely they're playing free jazz. I don't know what time signature they're playing but it's obviously not 4/4.
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A chimp is an ape.
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https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/12/chimps-create-rock-music-throwing-stones-trees
Kalan says the behavior could also be a display of male dominance, because the main rock throwers are usually adult males. There’s also the chance the chimps just do it for fun, although Kalan thinks this in unlikely. “Play behavior is a little less structured, a little more impromptu,” she says. (One of chimps’ favorite ways to play is grabbing each others’ feet while walking so they fall over, she notes.) Still, Kalan can’t rule out this hypothesis completely—nor the idea that the stone-throwing behavior is just the chimps’ very own version of rock music.
Has Ginger Baker has been reincarnated as a chimp?
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I converted the tracks to mono in Audacity.
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4 hours ago, sgcim said:
One thing I noticed after I wrote about some of these violent episodes with jazz musicians; they all involved drummers or trumpet players doing the aggressive acts. Clifford T. even mentioned an incident with Richard Williams.
You might be onto something, but what about Mingus?
QuoteThe trumpet and the drum set are the most physical instruments to play
The honkers, shouters, and bar walkers might say otherwise.
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14 hours ago, BillF said:
Jazz musician as murderer?
Not to diminish the importance of domestic violence, but it's one thing to hit your wife; it's quite another to go to work and punch one of your co-workers. I don't mean one is worse than the other, I mean socially it has much different consequences (usually).
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Didn't Wynton describe jazz as "men working together" in the Ken Burns Jazz doc? Maybe he should have said "men fighting together".
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After watching this clip in another thread and hearing the anecdote about Mingus punching Dolphy in the head, I started wondering why Dolphy would put up with such abuse. Then after recalling the incident in Miles' autobiography (IIRC) about punching Coltrane in the stomach, I started wondering about how common such violence was among jazz musicians. The only similar case I can recall hearing of in a rock band is Ginger Baker/Jack Bruce, and Ginger was of course a jazz drummer. Was there some sort of 'hazing' dynamic in the jazz world?
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15 hours ago, BillF said:
Now listening on Spotify to "It's All Right with Me" from the Gate album. Lovely stuff! :-)
It's also on Youtube. I don't care for the wide stereo separation.
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And where can I find these 8? allmusic doesn't even have a discog page for him.
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14 hours ago, JSngry said:
That does not rule out Alphonseo Trent, it merely delays the inevitable. Some things are bigger than personal taste, you can run, you can hide, you can absolutely refuse to engage, but still, there they are. There they are.
A discography of 8 songs? Do you think perhaps you're being a tad precious?
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20 minutes ago, Brad said:
It’s entirely up to you how you want to approach it and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that’s plan because it’s your plan. On the other hand, I’ve found that listening to one musician may lead you down a different path than you had planned. You might be on I 95 and all of a sudden you exit for a reason and next thing you know you’re on Route 301.
That's true. I haven't made any rules for myself, only rough plans -- and I often fail to follow my own plans.
Steve Coleman & #MeToo Moment in Jazz
in Jazz In Print - Periodicals, Books, Newspapers, etc...
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OK I'm out. When mods start deleting big chunks of threads that's my cue to leave. If I wanted that kind of Big Brother shit I'd go hang out in Hoffman. You can delete my account too. I won't be coming back.