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  3. Pony Poindexter, any fans?

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    i met pony in the late 80s when he was visiting germany for the last time and stayed with a good friend of mine. we drove him to several concerts in the mannheim area where he put up a little stand to sell his book. i still have the copy he gave me, with "to bill cosby" whitened out and my name over it, lol. i remember going backstage with him in mannheim to greet art blakey. for some reason woody shaw was also there, suddenly standing in front of me, holding out his hand and introducing himself.

    i remember that he didn't talk much and that he seemed not to be in good shape. he did like to smoke the green. i think he died a few months later. i have a tape somewhere with a gig he did on an earlier visit, no sax, just singing, with my buddy on piano and a local rhythm section, iirc. i could find it if it's of any interest.

     

    i'd love to see the photos from frankfurt. any idea who was playing with pony?

     

    and +1 to the recordings with rene thomas. 

  4. BFT 171 Discussion Thread

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    1. old devil moon. bobby hutcherson, late period?

    3. fantastic bass player, could it be george tucker? is yusef lateef involved?

    13. just friends. first vibraphone solo sounds like terry gibbs. i enjoyed his combo records on jasmine.

    15. jim halls debut as a leader with carl perkins and red mitchell. seven come eleven, associated with charlie christian, whose influence is obvious here.

     

  7. Review of the two Grant Green Resonance releases

    in Jazz In Print - Periodicals, Books, Newspapers, etc...

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    i'm not sure how much money you can actually grab from releasing Grant Green material ;)

    the paris session could've been left alone, since there is video already. but i'm happy for everything new that we get. i mean, the holy barbarian session is probably not of great artistic value but gives a great snapshot of grant's development. surely there is historic value in releasing unissued material?

    is it a bit odd how cuscuna likes this release so much when he is appearantly still sitting on better grant green material? and is it true that he writes in his liner notes that cannonball brought grant to NYC? wasn't that lou donaldson?

  12. GRANT GREEN TRIO

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    On 28.3.2018 at 10:16 PM, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

    No, it's too big for the board to accept. Send me a PM with your e-mail address on it and I'll send it, one way or another.

    MG

    claude was kind enough to mail me the fifth tune. it's definitely attila zoller. 

  14. GRANT GREEN TRIO

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    On 24.3.2018 at 6:32 PM, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

     

    Track 1 on the LP is Grant Green, playing a blues figure that turns into something like 'Cantaloupe woman' then IS 'Cantaloupe woman' at the end.

     

    the track is cantaloupe woman, but played as a 12-bar blues instead of the original 16-bar blues form. the only thing they add at the end is the chromatic fall to the VI chord. but they still leave out 4 bars of the original tune.

  15. GRANT GREEN TRIO

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    On 24.3.2018 at 6:32 PM, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

    Well, I've ripped the tracks now. One problem, on the second track, my LP seems to have developed a fault in the seven years since I played it last and after six minutes and keeps repeating. Well I stopped it and can't be asked to try and locate the fault and give it a going over with an oily cloth.

    However I'm going to attach them both.

    Track 1 on the LP is Grant Green, playing a blues figure that turns into something like 'Cantaloupe woman' then IS 'Cantaloupe woman' at the end.

    Track 2 sounds like something GG MIGHT have played if he were feeling in a hard bop mood and not really feeling himself. It's not Kenny Burrell, so maybe it's actually Atilla Zoller. I wouldn't know an Atilla Zoller if it bit me on the bum, so can anyone identify it?

    Oh, it's too big to upload. I'll send the rip of the 2 tracks to any volunteer.

    MG

    the material is from the 1966 newport guitar workshop. GG plays cantaloupe woman, zoller plays straight no chaser and darn that dream, and burrell plays an untitled blues.

    hth

  17. BFT 165

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    4 hours ago, felser said:

    Older than GG Jr.  Not a big name like Green or Benson!

    wow. looking very much forward to the reveal on that one. i can't come up with a single name. it's not sonny greenwich either.

  18. BFT 165

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    track 2: the guitar player is fantastic. really channelling early 70s grant green but adds a little something. it's not grant but incredibly close. not benson but again very close. i'd say GG jr. but the recording seems older? i want more.

  21. Lewis Porter on sources of Coltrane's Impressions

    in Jazz In Print - Periodicals, Books, Newspapers, etc...

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    2 hours ago, JSngry said:

    The melody staying the same in both sections is the Turrentine version, from Sugar. That's what is (or was, for a loooong time, no idea what the current ones have) in The Real Book.

    The person making the disparaging comment was a reasonably well-known obscure trumpeter that I had occasion to jam/hang out with one afternoon in NYC. He was on a rant about people no longer learning by ear and that was part of his rant (which also included a "yeah, that's why I'm never going to be this type of player" reality check for me story about how he got a call for a tour with Horace Silver and had to learn the book literally overnight. Not everything Horace ever wrote, just things that were going to be played on the tour. Like, yeah, I don't learn anything that quickly, even sometimes my own writing...so, stay local, right?)

    No sense in "name dropping", because it was just one afternoon out of both of our lives, but a lesson learned is a lesson learned.

    thanks, i see now. i always thought that the "lamp is low" quote was a part of the tune. after all it's a "pavane" as well (by ravel), so i always thought of it as trane's little inside joke. but i find porter's response in the comments still mildly confusing:

    " You might have read in my book that the bridge was possibly taken from "The Lamp is Low." I no longer believe that, because in fact it is false that Coltrane plays the same bridge in every single performance. As I wrote above, "the bridge is basically the A theme played a half-step higher, as Coltrane himself sometimes performed it."

    even if it's false that trane did play it *everytime* it's still taken from "the lamp is low"? even if there are unreleased versions of trane playing the "turrentine" version (i haven't heard any) do they outnumber the released versions (which all have "lamp is low" afaik) by such a margin that it can be concluded that the "turrentine" version is actually the correct one, as porter seems to imply? that can't be right. i don't get it.

      

  24. BFT 162 REVEAL

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    On 30.9.2017 at 6:04 AM, medjuck said:

     

    9. “Getting Pesonal”: Nelson Symonds from cd of the same name. Symonds guitar, Jean Beaudet Piano, Normand Guilbault, bass, Wali Muhammad, drums. 1991.  Between fall 1961 and spring 1965 I probably saw Nelson play 50 times.  He played with The Charlie Biddles Trio which had Biddles on bass and Charlie Duncan on drums and they played in various clubs around Montreal nearly every week.  I saw them by themselves and also backing Benny Golson, Jackie Mclean, Art Farmer and Thad Jones amongst others. I’ve been told that Nelson had sat in with Trane and Miles and  that both had offered him jobs which he couldn’t take because he couldn’t get a green card.   Those were probably apocryphal stories but I believe that this did happen with Brother Jack McDuff and George Benson got the job instead.

    I didn’t know Nelson had ever made a record but one day I was in a cd store in my small home town and came across a used copy of this.  Thirty years after I first saw him Nelson had lost some of his steam but it’s hard for me to be objective.  (Just found some better examples of his playing  on YouTube where in one comment someone claims they first heard about Nelson from Wes Montgomery.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9GUA8fJWgM

     

    that's a great recording of milestones. much more aggressive than the other one. did he sound like that in the 60s? greenwich must have taken a few pages out of symond's book as well. do you remember the chord solos? there seems to be little on youtube that shows what he seemingly was capable of. to floor wes montgomery with chord solos is certainly something! 

    thank you for that blindfold test.

     

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