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Many thanks! I'm sure Chuck will provide all this information at project's end and I will be sure publicise this as and when the information is available if I have any advance notice. I'm really looking forward to what previously unknown goodies may turn up in the late 40s recordings!
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I wrote this on the Steve Hoffman forum about the 'temporary' discography I put on my blog:
"I've had look again at the discography I put on the blog and Volume 1 courtesy of Spotify!
I'm sure there will be more corrections to be made - but I wrote up the discography in session order as it appears in The New DESOR and Timner (Fifth edition). i can see that at a couple of points it is at variance with the running order on Volume 1. I can't explain that but thought that publishing the recording sessions as they have been catalogued was the thing to do - even if there is variance. I believe a revised version of Volume 1 will appear at some point and perhaps that will resolve these anomalies. To my discography, I have added the take numbers for Washington Wobble and I Can't Give You Anything But Love. It should be possible to follow which take is on which date because the recordings still occur in the same order in both lists (if that makes sense). With regards to vocalists on this latter number, i guess the In Order list is in error. Listening again to these tracks, I do believe the discography I put out is correct in identifying the vocalists as Irving Mills and Baby Cox.
...I believe at the project's end, Chuck is going to make available all the information he has accessed for these releases which will be all our Christmases come at once for Ellington enthusiasts and which will I hope and expect render my own 'stop gap' account on my blog redundant!"All definitely a work in progress!
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The 'Azure' label was a series of cassettes produced privately by the Duke Ellington Music Society and impossible to come by nowadays, I think. The Jazz Violin Sessions have been released by La Maison du Duke in France. That release is likely still available to members of La Maison. The details are here:
http://www.maison-du-duke.com/c7j8vr2v58/fichiers/CD_Fiche_MDD008.pdf
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You're welcome! Thanks for visiting.
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This is the information I have managed to glean about the footage...
https://villesville.blogspot.com/2019/11/perdido-and-more.html
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Just passing on info of a proposed Duke Ellington Conference - the 25th in the series of International Study Group conferences - which will be held at The Royal Birmingham Conservatoire, Birmingham, UK 25-27 May 2018. A 'Call for Papers' has been issued and further details are available here.
Many thanks!
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The only 'new' material on here is the single CD of Gröna Lund material which does not replicate anything from the earlier 2CD set but is only about thirty minutes long and consists mainly of 'the dreaded medley'. Everything else has been out before on individual releases, including the DVD material - the Goodyear jazz show. Worth bearing in mind if you have collected all the previous Storyville releases, though.
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I have a Woody Herman Capitol Recordings to add to the list at £100 - A Basie Roulette Studio and a Basie Roulette Live box - again £100 each. Just for local pick up - or I will deliver between the outskirts of London (don't fancy driving through London during the Olympics!) and Carlisle - plus points east and west for petrol at cost.
Thanks for looking!
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I have the following Mosaic boxes for sale but for local pick up only in Bury, near Manchester UK -or I'll happily deliver them within a 300 mile radius for petrol at cost.
£70.00 each
Anita O'Day: Complete Verve and Clef recordings
Peggy Lee/ June Christy: Complete Transcriptions
Stan Kenton: Complete Capitol Recordings 1943-47 (slight 'ding' to box corner - as bought. Everything else is mint)
Oscar Peterson: Complete Clef/ Mercury Studio Recordings 1951-53
Harry James/ Gene Krupa Complete Capitol Recordings.
I also have a copy of the 18 disc Nat 'King' Cole Trio set which I would sell for £250.00 - again, there eis a slight ding to the box corner - but otherwise mint - all but the first disc still sealed.
All in excellent condition - O'Day/ Christy/ Lee/ Peterson sets still sealed.
Please PM me if interested.
Thanks!
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That July 3rd, 1941 small group session from LA with Lawrence Brown, Ben Webster, Harry Carney, Duke, Blanton, and Sonny Greer (Menelik, Subtle Slough, etc.) may be just about my favourite session in the history of sound - I love Rex Stewart.
Seconded. I have the 10" 'X' disc of that on RCA amongst other sources for this music. It is sublime.
Rex Stewart features as major character in the children's novel Riding on Duke's Train by Mick Carlon which was part of my Christmas reading. I found the novel rather charming!
Many thanks for the thread. I am pony just beginning to explore Rex Stewart's contribution to the Ellington Orchestra - and his own work solo.
As a discographical enquiry - is the album Rex Stewart in Paris on the Barclay label (I think) the same material as the 10" Ellingtonia on Dial? Many thanks.
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It may just be a finicky customer - don't let that take away any of the pleasure of owning this set. A lot of these titles have seen cheap PD issues over the years - I think it's great that they are finally being made available legitimately - and a 'complete works' version.
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The Ella set is currently withdrawn from Amazon.co.uk because they claim the product was "not as described". Anyone know why this might be the case? Thanks.
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I sprang for the Hampton - mainly because of the Ellingtonians featured direct from the original metal parts!
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The boxes are also just a glossy photo pasted on a box, not embossed like earlier versions. And the prices are little better than secondhand. Thumbs down.
I didn't think the prices were up to much!
Could be a case of getting the 'fearless leader' and 'side steps' boxes for me, then.
Thanks for the responses.
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In an email today from True Blue Music, they say the Complete Coltrane on Prestige, Davis Chronicles: Complete on Prestige, Evans Complete Riverside, Monk Complete Riverside, Tatum Complete Pablo Group and Solo Masterpieces are to be re-issued mid- July - prices in the region of $80-$180.
I might spring for the Monk. I'm interested in the Coltrane, too -but which is better sound/ completist wise? The Coltrane Complete or those three five-and six-disc sets Fearless Leader, Interplay and Side Steps? Any advice appreciated. Cheers!
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There is an ebay auciton presently for eight sketches by Paul Gonsalves. The sketches are owned by one of the sons of Joe Castro. In the item description, the vendor writes about Doris Duke and the jam sessions recorded at Falcon Lair. I am now aware that one such session has been released on CD (Zoot Sims with the Joe Castro trio Live at Falcon Lair)but in his description, the vendor writes:
"I'm selling these to finish a body of Jazz created in the 50's to 60's at Doris Duke and my father's home's Falcon Lair and Duke Farms. The transfer of the Masters has taken 11 years 500+ masters never heard soon to be released all very high quality. Zoot-Getz-Mulligan. Gene Ammons, Teddy Edwards, Leroy Vinnegar, Lucky Thompson, Oscar Pettiford, Dexter Gordon, everyone."
Is much known about the recordings from these sessions? Are copies in circulation or is this something of a find? I've posted details about the auction and a link ($15 000 for 'buy it now'!)at my blog villesville.blogspot.com (can't get the hyper link to work. Sorry!)
I have no connection to the vendor or the auciton - just interested in the recordings, Doris Duke (who I must admit before today I knew nothing about) - and interesting Ellington connections to a record label he shared with Castro. Any further information greatly appreciated.
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Same material.
Cheers!
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At the risk of making a nuisance of myself, there are the albums Atmosphere for Thieves and Lovers, Duke's Up in Bed with the same cover and at least one more album - the name of which escapes me at the moment - with that same cover. Are these albums drawn from the Sunday/ Saturday sessions, Bill Coleman etc - or are these further performances in Ben's discography?
Thanks!
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Thank you for all the replies and thanks, Chuck, for pointing me in the direction of this material on CD.
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I don't have access to Lord and would be very grateful if someone could tell me the relationship between the 'Saturday','Sunday' and 'Midnight' sessions at the Montmartre on vinyl Black Lion and the Black Lion Webster CDs - three, i think, collected at one time in a box set. The Black Lion recordings of Ben in Europe are very confusing for me - so any help appreciated.
Thanks!
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A couple of people (including me) have been trying to get access to the original tapes. I think (hope) that Steve lasker has been haviang more success than I have.
I understand that a Cd which comes as part of a DVD package on Bud Shank called Against the Tide contains one track from the score pre: studio musicians being added - I think. I just bought the DVD recently but have not had a chance to listen yet.
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Don't know if other folks in Europe have seen this one but I saw this in my local Tower, 4 discs and it was only €6.99!!!
I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet though so can't comment on the all important sound quality.
Here's the track listing, it has a few previously unreleased items as well.
Disc: 1
1. It Don't Mean A Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing)
2. Lazy Rhapsody
3. Blue Tune
4. Baby, When You Ain't There
5. St. Louis Blues
6. Creole Love Call
7. Blue Harlem
8. The Sheik Of Araby
9. Best Wishes
10. Blue Ramble
11. Clouds In My Heart
12. Blue Mood
13. Ducky Wucky
14. Jazz Cocktail
15. Lightnin'
16. Swing Low
17. Slippery Horn
18. Drop Me Off In Harlem
19. Happy As The Day Is Long
20. Get Yourself A New Broom
21. Bundle Of Blues
22. Sophisticated Lady
23. Jive Stomp
24. Harlem Speaks
25. Daybreak Express
Disc: 2
1. Ebony Rhapsody (Rehearsal For "Murder At The Vanities")
2. Ebony Rhapsody - pt 2
3. Solitude
4. Saddest Tale
5. Moonlight Fiesta
6. In A Sentimental Mood
7. Showboat Shuffle
8. 8 Merry-Go-Round
9. Reminiscing In Tempo
10. I Don't Know Why I Love You So
11. Isn't Love The Strangest Thing?
12. Clarinet Lament
13. Echoes Of Harlem
14. Trumpet In Spades
15. Yearning For Love
16. In A Jam
17. Exposition Swing
18. Uptown Downbeat
19. Scattin' At The Cotton Club
20. Black Butterfly
Disc: 3
1. The New Birmingham Breakdown
2. The New East St. Louis Toodle-o
3. Caravan
4. Azure
5. Chatterbox
6. Diminuendo In Blue
7. Crescendo In Blue
8. Harmony In Harlem
9. Dusk On The Desert
10. Steppin' Into Swing Society
11. Prologue To Black And Tan Fantasy
12. The New Black And Tan Fantasy
13. Ridin' On A Blue Note
14. Lost In Meditation
15. The Gal From Joe's
16. Scrounch
17. I Let A Song Go Out Of My Heart
18. Braggin' In Brass
19. Carnival In Caroline
20. I'm Slappin' Seventh Avenue
21. Dinah's In A jam
22. Rose Of The Rio Grande
23. Pyramid
24. A Gypsy Without A Song
25. The Stevedores Serenade
Disc: 4
1. Prelude To A Kiss
2. Hip Chic
3. Buffet Flat
4. Jazz Potpourri
5. TT On Toast
6. Battle Of Swing
7. Blue Light
8. Old King Dooji
9. Boy Meets Horn
10. Slap Happy
11. Pussy Willow
12. Subtle Lament
13. Schmorgasbord And Schnapps
14. Portrait Of The Lion
15. (I Want) Something To Live For
16. Solid Old Man
17. Way Low
18. Serenade To Sweden
19. Bouncing Bouyancy
20. The Sergeant Was Shy
21. Grievin'
22. I Never Felt This Way Before
23. Tootin' Through The Roof
24. Killin' Myself
25. Country Gal
I've sent for this release from Amazon.co.uk On the Duke-LYM discussion list, one poster commented on the sound which is apparently good. I am amazed to see this set issued at this price. indeed, I am amazed to see Sony issuing any new CDs - much less Ellington's thirties period. Surely many of these titles are seeing their first 'official' release on CD? I cannot wait for this set to arrive and audition it. In the age of the download - and the CD nmeltdown - I am encouraged ny this. Maybe much more of Ellington's catalogue ios going to be re-issued?
the material on these CDs was earmarked by Mosaic was it not for later this year? Hope that release isn't scuppered by this issue. Any news on where Mosaic are at with their Ellington orchestra 30s re-issue?
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As for the Miller/Thornhill/Evans evolutionary link, so long as we don't go too "literal" on that, I can see that, yeah, for sure. The thing about Miller's band that sometimes gets overlooked is it's extreme diversity in repertoire, and as you note, the sheer quality of the writing no matter what the "type" of material. Perhaps that's a "technical" vs "spiritual" issue, but there's no way that muisc of any kind is strictly "either/or" when it comes to that!
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Again, please allow me to implore anybody & everybody who gives even half a damn to go back and listen to the intro on Finnegan's chart of "Serenade In Blue" for Glenn Miller & then ponder why it means to write something like that for a song like that for a band like that and have it pass into the "popular canon" w/o anybody seemingly as much as batting an eye.
It means you a bad mutterfunker, that's what it meansl.
Billy may wrote the intro to Serenade in Blue after Bill Finegan couldn't quite come up with what Glenn Miller wanted - although the rest of the arrangement is his. But yes - Bill Finegan was a superb arranger. Billy Strayhorn was a great fan of his work with Glenn Miller - which says everything about the quality of his work. Miller's work is often denigrated and whilst its true, it was 'pop' music for the kids and they played far too many novelty numbers, Miller never short changed his audience with the quality of the band's writing - and Bill Finegan was an essential part of that - not just 'Little Brown Jug' or 'Song of the Volga Boatmen' but even on the ballads his work is rich. Check out the end of Finegan's arrangement of the ballad 'Don't Cry, Cherie' where he manages to interweave the French National Anthem! I honestly believe Glenn Miller's band - and Bill Finegan's writing in particular - influenced the Claude Thornhill band (Thornhill played piano for Miller in his first band IIRC) - and thereby Gil Evans' writing. If Gil Evans created the Birth of the Cool, the 'Miller Sound' was its conception.
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Thank you - I'll delete the footnote!