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All these years later I still miss BJP and cherish the odd evening to myself to immerse into the world of Big John Patton
Tonight Dec 8th December it is the Minor Swing release
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Imagine the squeals if they surprised us and turnout a nice odds and sods set ( a little like some of the older Japanese rarities)
I know there is not a great deal
and the prospect might not be real
but I would still squeal!
In all seriousness the prospect of another nicely compiled box of new bits and pieces along the lines of a Lost Grooves plan would just be enough
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Same here - nowadays all these Mosaics have the same material I have where as previously they had absolute hidden treasures like the Larry Young or Hank Mobley or Lee Morgan sets that back then were really impossible to find on CD
However that said - these are lovely sets to see - especially the Joe Henderson and Sonny Clark -
I would love to have seen one that tied up a few artists like Baby Face Willette/Freddie Roach - or as others have said - long since unseen one LP wonders.
Nowadays I still enjoy the ones I bought - last one was the JJ Johnson and the two Vee Jays with Lee Morgan Wayne Shorter and Paul Chambers and Wynton Kelly =they were nice sets
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oh and that weird bid band thing from 1964 Big-Band Live at the Vestlandhalle, Recklinghausen, Germany, 1964
Not one song but all this
Donald Byrd Big-Band. Feb 26, 1964
Recklinghausen, Vestlandhalle Germany
WDR-Broadcast
Donald Byrd (tp),
Benny Bailey (tp),
Jon Eardley (tp, contra alt-tp),
Idrees Sulieman (tp, as),
Johnny Renard (tp, mellophone),
Albert Mangelsdorff (tb),
Eje Thelin (tb),
Ake Persson (tb),
Nat Peck (tb, v-tb),
Hans Koller (ts),
Johnny Scott (as, fl, a-fl, cl),
Klaus Doldinger (ts, as, ss),
Johnny Griffin (ts),
Sahib Shihab (bs, fl),
Rolf Kühn (cl, ts),
Ingfried Hoffmann (p, org),
Pierre Cavalli (g),
Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen (b),
Egil Johansen (dr),
1 Hey day (Peck) (4:32)
2 Night song (Doldinger) (5:12)
3 Conversations (Shihab) (7:42)
4. Concerto for Benjamin and Jonathan (Eardley) (10:36)
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On 11/12/2022 at 11:16 PM, mikeweil said:
Donald Byrd live:
Second volume was issued of the first two. The last one was the co-led Byrd/Adams group.
Also to add in the mix there was a radio dub (not "released") but recorded on WBCN Boston 1973-09-04 - cracking tracks see attached
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On 11/30/2022 at 12:53 PM, EKE BBB said:
So would I. Not many issued Kenny Dorham sessions are weak, from my perspective.
That is true - I have a fair few that were also radio broadcasts and would love to see more issued - as they did with the Half Note sessions
I just gave the Blue Lament another play and in particular Mason Dixon Line - I still like it
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Wow - this I missed - now watched
What a lovely lovely treat I never ever thought I would see.
and then to learn about Tina Brooks as well - luck is in the room
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i had some rough cuts of this a few years ago
now sounds a lot brigther
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After all these years Dan well done
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Well
I have a fair bit of Kenny Dorham
This is not his best but nor is it his worst.
If you can snaffle a copy as this may not get released officially (but you never know) then do
It is better than 60% of what I have heard of Kenny Dorham
in my sonically challenged world
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Open House Plaint talk two fer never ever lets me down
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Well it is mostly free. Free = no moderating = shanty town but I do find it useful and have scrubbed up a few sites where they lack recordings
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Used many paper based discographies
They take enormous effort
I could pick faults but they have been in my opinion excellent.
To monetise online ..maybe the best offer is a trial membership access...so many logins for a fee
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There used to be an army of regulars that used to go to the Manchester Jazz Society - to listen to jazz records who waxed lyrical about seeing many of these Manchester gigs - not sure how many more of them are still with us
Time gone by I used to turn up with my latest Mosaic Box set or new Blue Note CD and try to get them into the "new stuff" from the 50's and 60's - they used to call me the Blue Note Kid
Still here: https://twitter.com/jazz_manchester?lang=en
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1 hour ago, bertrand said:
We have live recordings from Smoke?
Yup. And many others. PM me or email andybleaden AT gmail.com
There are loads in all reality
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On 09/01/2021 at 3:20 PM, Dan Gould said:
Dan - just sent you an update message with track in question to hear for yourself - let me know if the track does not work.
Looking around I found a WHOLE heap of Big John recordings I forgot I had so - thanks! That's my evening planned!
On 09/01/2021 at 3:20 PM, Dan Gould said:So I attained a new Percy France recording, October 1988 at Flamingo Lounge in Brooklyn. Percy announces musicians at the end of set 1 ... and its "John Patton" on piano, and Wes Anderson on drums. And I am thinking, I'll never know who these two guys are, any google hit will be for Big John, and for Wes Anderson the saxophonist.
Now it's been pointed out that maybe it actually could be Big John on piano?
My thought is "no" because Percy doesn't introduce him as such and there's no special crowd reaction either. Then again the crowd is not too excited in general.
Does anyone know definitively where Big John would have been in 1988? (Where is Soul Stream aka Mike Flanigan when you need him?)
Maybe someone knows of a John Patton pianist in the late 80s on the NYC scene?
I gotta admit, the thought that this maybe could be Big John on piano with Percy France is pretty exciting.
edit to add: there's also the intriguing possibility that Leonard Gaskin brought his Walkman to record this gig, specifically because it was BJP?
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Just nipping in to say hi, thanks and wow
If you are still stuck. Go back to the live recordings we have of BJP at Smokes and with Ed Cherry etc later as there is lots of him in between sets and doing announcements...always sounded a little clipped or nasally as if he had a cold. My ears or a crap mic maybe but there were loads of him. announcing a little Rhthmaning was was that comes to mind.
Last clue - with the photo - compare that to his face on the old release of Soul Connection...similar but not same time on Nilva
To be very very specific as I have it on here now...
On the live at the Jazz Bakery (grim sound quality ) there is him talking away before each track
Counting them all in
Better than that
There is a whole 53 seconds of John talking in between Scrapple
Live at Smoke July 27th 2001 Disc 3
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Those Japanese Critique books were lovely just lovely to have in my hands....still have them.
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well. the stamp collector in me is not very strong. I had lots of Big John Patton bootlegs ..listen to a few live shows...mostly prefer the official recordings
Like hearing rare Grant Green, Blakey, Mobley, Byrd, Morgan etc
but still in love with Sidewinder, Night In Tunisia....Roll Call....Ethiopian Knights etc but lack the time to enjoy even them let alone the rare unreleased Blakey Blue Notes or Patton late sides with George Braith or the Byrd big band radio set or Dutch Mobley sets....
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Without wishing to be sounding over the top this is just 100% of what I needed to hear.
Beautiful
From an old Herbie Nichols fan with an old Mosaic box set to go and find again and put on
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wow
what a find indeed
dare i ask if it sounded good?
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I bought this late 80's on cd- still have it. My fav Lonnie Smith Blue Note....then i bought Turning Point
I spent the last few years between one or the other....then i found Finger Licken Good....First track Hola Muneca
on repeat every single time I play it
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On 18/07/2020 at 3:46 AM, JSngry said:
There are those who would LOL at that statement while suggesting that the the "classic Blue Note era" had already ended by then.
It went down hill at Blue Note when they started recording.
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Get your views on this @bertrand
Never enough Larry Young
Mosaic Sets but Especially Tina Brooks
in Mosaic and other box sets...
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Mine was the Larry Young set
I had recently bought a big box of jazz lps (pre ebay) and some of them were Blue Notes - originals too
My local jazz record shop in Manchester UK (Decoy Records) had a look and out from under the counter popped a Larry Young Mosaic set - AND a box of the Other Side of the 1500 Series (Japanese LPs)
I went home happier than I had ever felt trading records. Larry Young I had only heard I think 3 tracks of and there was all his stuff and his sides with Grant Green ....and then that Japanese Blue Note set.
Still have the Larry Young set - my favourite still.
Bought all the Blue Note boxes and loved ringing up from the UK (as fast as I could as it cost a fortune) to place an order for the next one or ones I had missed.