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  1. Just dreaming, but if I was independently wealthy, with a bottomless pit of cash, I'd just go ahead and order t-shirts of the entire BN 1500 and 4000 series, plus Patrick Roques Connoisseurs. Patterns would be pretty sweet.   

  2. On 7/16/2022 at 1:38 PM, clifford_thornton said:

    yup. Also with Giorgio Gaslini, Franco D'Andrea, Franco Tonani and that crew. I've heard some very interesting early Gato radio recordings that put his development a bit afield from the "Latin Pharaoh" tag that he eventually embraced.

    On 7/16/2022 at 7:30 AM, JSngry said:

    Not irrelevant. Gato used to be somebody who functioned quite well in certain "avant subcultures" and not just with Don Cherry. 

    Still confused. Huh? What does this suggest? Some sort of conformity on what we mean by "avant"?. I'm further confused.  

     

    Sorry, admitting my ignorance; guess this is where my observations come and get back at me. I'm just a listener, not a musician; on the other hand, thanks for laying down some more artists to listen to! 

     

    Yeah, thanks everyone for these posts! 

    I really like how all of you phrased your thoughts on this! Sorry, JSngry for the confusion I started! 

  3. On 7/16/2022 at 1:38 PM, clifford_thornton said:

    yup. Also with Giorgio Gaslini, Franco D'Andrea, Franco Tonani and that crew. I've heard some very interesting early Gato radio recordings that put his development a bit afield from the "Latin Pharaoh" tag that he eventually embraced.

    On 7/16/2022 at 7:30 AM, JSngry said:

    Not irrelevant. Gato used to be somebody who functioned quite well in certain "avant subcultures" and not just with Don Cherry. 

    Still confused. Huh? What does this suggest? Some sort of conformity on what we mean by "avant"?. I'm further confused.  

     

    Sorry, admitting my ignorance; guess this is where my observations come and get back at me. I'm just a listener, not a musician; on the other hand, thanks for laying down some more artists to listen to! 

  4. Still not following. Agree, about Gato in 66 and 76, apples and oranges is the talk to be had, but what Gato was in the 60's was certainly "reinvented" in the 70's.  I mean there are a slew of players who did this: Ayler (in the 60's) Klemmer, Byrd, Miles even. I guess I just still don't understand your comment. 

    All I'm pointing out is that this live Cherry set is awesome, is all. I never pin-pointed Gato at all.

     

     

    13 hours ago, Rabshakeh said:

    I was going through a bit of a Don Cherry patch a few weeks ago. Still have a lot of love for Mu.

    Special. Great record. Weirdly, Cherry and Blackwell had this bond much akin to Ornette and Haden's bond. That seemed to be the recording history after BN (still have a soft spot for the Empty Fox Hole) and the Impulse(s)! You get the sense these guys were going to play together in one format or another until they draw their last breaths. (and they all did) fascinating!

  5. 16 hours ago, Dan Gould said:

    The Andrew Hill Combo playing "Down Pat" on Ping Records 1003, recorded in October 1956. The musicians are: Von Freeman: ts Pat Patrick: bars Andrew Hill: p Malachi Favors: b Wilbur Campbell: dr

    Woah. Sun Ra-ish sounding, I think I read here a thread/tie between Hill and Ra talking/collaborating in Chicago in the 50's (dunno who or where)

  6. 9 hours ago, JSngry said:

    One could be far less shrewd than to use those records and the relevant BNs to veer off into an exploration of prehistoric (lol) Gato Barbieri... 

    I'm not following a word you said here. Gato? 60's v. 70's? Why don't we talk about 60's v. 70's George Benson? Irrelevant. 

  7. Cherry's BN's are spectacular, and to think who he had as sideman....wow! We don't even need to rehearse the Atlantics with Ornette (beside the one will seemingly never hear) Wow!

  8. About Patrick Roques, I believe he carried the Reid Miles torch very fine, and the Connoisseur series album covers he either designed or gave a "facelift" to were very fine indeed: Patterns, Medina, Jack Knife, Solid, Vertigo, Third Season, Thinking of Home, Dance with Death (all the Hills he designed) were awesome! 

    Is he still active? Is he designing the Tone Poets covers now (that weren't originally issued?) What does he look like? Is he alive? Can't even find an image of this dude on Google even. 

     

     

  9. Since this is a Don Cherry corner, I'd like to add that I still think his three BN's are superb as well as the live set released by ESP (three volumes me thinks) Why not did ESP make this a boxset? 

  10. On 7/2/2022 at 0:45 PM, Holy Ghost said:

    Would like it, but anything after his "retirement" are not of interest, which is why I sat on this set, probably too long. 

    I suppose the bigger problem for me, is that I've been buying all the reissues in the traditional cd format for the last 20 years, and now, as much as I like uniformity, I ask, why didn't Columbia start this box set at the beginning???   Frustrating. 

  11. 1 hour ago, Pim said:

    Fully agree! Simmons remains such a underrated figure. I’ve always loved the way he connected bop and free jazz and his warm voice. A very creative and original artist. I always wonder why for instance the Japanese reissue companies never issued such a record as Rumasuma. Glad I secured a vinyl copy last year.

    11 hours ago, felser said:

    'Rumasuma' is badly in need of a CD issue.  Should have been a no-brainer OJC.  We've been waiting for over 30 years!  The other huge miss by OJC is 'Home' by Gary Bartz with Woody Shaw.

     

    Never heard it, is it worth the cd wait?

    A stupid question to some, but I'm entirely out of the vinyl market.  

  12. 10 hours ago, felser said:

    'Rumasuma' is badly in need of a CD issue.  Should have been a no-brainer OJC.  We've been waiting for over 30 years!  The other huge miss by OJC is 'Home' by Gary Bartz with Woody Shaw.

    Totally. So happy I jumped on Burning Spirits, promo used! But come on, Bartz, Shaw, Contemporary, in that really interesting period, period? Neglected! And I mean that part of Contemporary, not the Peppers, Hawes, or the Manns ( and I like that later period where Mann was getting freer (Kessel, Tal too.) Deserves reissues! 

     

  13. This dude is heavy, and anytime I see one of his records, I jump on it, besides the ESP's, I have a weird one on some weird label. Don't understand why he's not in Don Ellis or Albert Ayler's world, he should be. 

     

  14. On 6/27/2022 at 8:23 PM, Hoppy T. Frog said:

    I was lucky to have seen them a couple times when it was both Ralf and Florian. But their live show rarely changes and with only one original member I passed this time around. 

    I get what you mean, I love 311, and after seeing their live show several times, their show doesn't change much either. HOWEVER, this is my first time seeing this band, but it'll probably be my last too. 

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