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I guess I somewhat regret purchasing the Chico Hamilton set, particularly when the best stuff on the set has been reissued by Lonehill Jazz. I probably could have spent the money elsewhere. But it's not really that big of a deal.
Guy
Based upon the current rate at which they are releasing material, I think that just about every Mosaic set is going to end up on Lone Hill sometime in the next few years!
My only regret regarding Mosaic sets is having sold my Nat King Cole set for $400.00 three years ago ... I could probably get almost twice as much today.
(I have started a separate thread to discuss Lone Hill reissues)
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Blue Note jumbled up the typewritten pages of the notes I wrote for the LP issue of this back in 1979, and apparently the CD retains the original incoherent jumble. This came up here a ways back, and I explained how to un-jumble things; if that post can't be found and anyone cares, I'll try again.
My Mosiac set containing the material from this session includes an additional track, "My Old Flame" (5:16). Apparently this is NOT on the reissued CD. Is this correct? And if so, why was this left off?
My Old Flame was on the original lp and is on the new cd.
Thanks, Chuck. I was going by the track listing on Amazon.com ... they do not show this track. Now .. the next question, owning the Mosaic material, should I bother getting this RVG edition? I have never found that much difference in remastering quality between RVG's and Mosaic ... but then I can no longer hear dog whistles either.
CORRECTION: I see now that it is on the Amazon track list; I was just reading the titles in a different order to that in the Mosaic discography .. sorry bout that! I need another cup of coffee!
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Blue Note jumbled up the typewritten pages of the notes I wrote for the LP issue of this back in 1979, and apparently the CD retains the original incoherent jumble. This came up here a ways back, and I explained how to un-jumble things; if that post can't be found and anyone cares, I'll try again.
My Mosiac set containing the material from this session includes an additional track, "My Old Flame" (5:16). Apparently this is NOT on the reissued CD. Is this correct? And if so, why was this left off?
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If you check out Amazon.com for various Criss-Cross releases, invariably you will find them available for about $13.98 for NEW Cds from two Amazon participating associates ... "Import-CD Specialists" or "Caiman". I have had very good luck with both of these suppliers.
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Joe, I switched to Mosiac CDs about 1996 .... I still have the Buddy DeFranco and Shorty Rogers sets on LP ... but I no longer own a record changer ... anyone open for a swop for the CD sets?
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I am never sure that all Mosaic sets are shipped in some sort of rational numerical order. For instance, I got this set as a preorder the first day it was available, and my number is 1204 ... I guess that there might have been 1200 others just pining away for this great material ...
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I received a note from Concord yesterday (Tuesday) to say that "box is in the mail" ... I guess I am just a sucker for the those nice neat little boxed sets ... I never bought the K2 reissues, because I still have the big blue box, so this will be something to look forward to. This will be my fourth edition; the sale of just one of my original 1950s hardcover albums back in 2001 more than paid for his set.
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Pardon my bringing this thread up again, but I must compliment the Andorrean Pirates at Lonehill (which I am ambivalent about) for their recent reissue of the four albums from the 1950s featuring Cleveland as leader. This 2-CD collection contains the following very hard to find albums, especially on CD (God Knows! I have been continuously thwarted in my attempt to get a winning bid on some of these on Ebay in the past):
Introducing Jimmy Cleveland
Cleveland Style
A Map of Jimmy
Rhythm Crazy.
A Saturday afternoon well spent ... I just love this period and style of jazz, (New York in the late 50s -- I should also note that I equally enjoy the West Coast sounds from L.A. during this same period). These albums have great arrangements by Quincy Jones, Benny Golson, Gigi Gryce, and Ernie Wilkens, and wonderful stuff from sidemen such as Art Farmer, Lucky Thompson, and Benny Golson. My question for Mike Fitzgerald (or anyone else) reading this post, is why did Jimmy Cleveland, prolific as he was as a session player, make so few albums as a leader? Was there some "incident" which turned him off from this role?
Garth,
Houston.
I have looked for these as well. Anyone have a good line on the Lonehill release that Garth references here.
Thanks
This album is available on several sites on Ebay (such as CD Hut) for $18.99. Considering that I have seen individual CDs of "Introducing JC" go for more than $45, this a bargain, and the sound is excellent.
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Pardon my bringing this thread up again, but I must compliment the Andorrean Pirates at Lonehill (which I am ambivalent about) for their recent reissue of the four albums from the 1950s featuring Cleveland as leader. This 2-CD collection contains the following very hard to find albums, especially on CD (God Knows! I have been continuously thwarted in my attempt to get a winning bid on some of these on Ebay in the past):
Introducing Jimmy Cleveland
Cleveland Style
A Map of Jimmy
Rhythm Crazy.
A Saturday afternoon well spent ... I just love this period and style of jazz, (New York in the late 50s -- I should also note that I equally enjoy the West Coast sounds from L.A. during this same period). These albums have great arrangements by Quincy Jones, Benny Golson, Gigi Gryce, and Ernie Wilkens, and wonderful stuff from sidemen such as Art Farmer, Lucky Thompson, and Benny Golson. My question for Mike Fitzgerald (or anyone else) reading this post, is why did Jimmy Cleveland, prolific as he was as a session player, make so few albums as a leader? Was there some "incident" which turned him off from this role?
Garth,
Houston.
I have looked for these as well. Anyone have a good line on the Lonehill release that Garth references here.
Thanks
This was the best deal hat I found ... considering thaat I have individual CDs go for more than $50 this is a good deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/JIMMY-CLEVELAND-Comple...1QQcmdZViewItem
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Pardon my bringing this thread up again, but I must compliment the Andorrean Pirates at Lonehill (which I am ambivalent about) for their recent reissue of the four albums from the 1950s featuring Cleveland as leader. This 2-CD collection contains the following very hard to find albums, especially on CD (God Knows! I have been continuously thwarted in my attempt to get a winning bid on some of these on Ebay in the past):
Introducing Jimmy Cleveland
Cleveland Style
A Map of Jimmy
Rhythm Crazy.
A Saturday afternoon well spent ... I just love this period and style of jazz, (New York in the late 50s -- I should also note that I equally enjoy the West Coast sounds from L.A. during this same period). These albums have great arrangements by Quincy Jones, Benny Golson, Gigi Gryce, and Ernie Wilkens, and wonderful stuff from sidemen such as Art Farmer, Lucky Thompson, and Benny Golson. My question for Mike Fitzgerald (or anyone else) reading this post, is why did Jimmy Cleveland, prolific as he was as a session player, make so few albums as a leader? Was there some "incident" which turned him off from this role?
Garth,
Houston.
I have looked for these as well. Anyone have a good line on the Lonehill release that Garth references here.
Thanks
This was the best deal hat I found ... considering thaat I have individual CDs go for more than $50 this is a good deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/JIMMY-CLEVELAND-Comple...1QQcmdZViewItem
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Thanks, David Ayers and everyone, for the interesting, if confounding, bits of information. Now where does everyone weigh in on on the pellet with the poison issue? Is it in the vessel with the pestle or the chalice from the palace?
No .. it is the flagon with dragon that has the pellet with the poison ... Let's hope that the new folks at Verve continue to reissue the important catalog in a decent CD format, and not just as downloads...
Garth,
Houston.
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Intriguing entry in Jack Goodwin's Warne Marsh discography - would anybody know anything about this?
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50-0300 HADDA BROOKS.
NYC, c. March, 1950.
Lee Konitz, as; Warne Marsh, ts; Hadda Brooks, p, vcl (b), unknown, b & d.
1 HADDA'S BOOGIE DLGF-50286 ?
2 I HADN'T ANYONE TILL YOU DLGF-50287 ?
all R London 30116
Don't know anything about the recording, but I can tell people something about Hadda: I worked with Hadda Brooks for a month, give or take, at a watering hole that will remain nameless here in NY in 1994. She was a wonderful ballad singer and boogie woogie (yes, you heard me) pianist. Brooks achieved some measure of fame in the '40s appearing in films like Out of The Blue and another with Bogart, (can't recall the name) usually in nightclub scenes as the sultry chanteuse. She was quite a beautiful woman back then and just barely escaped major stardom, best as I can figure. The last picture she was in was "The Crossing Guard" with Sean Penn, where she sang one of her signature songs, "Anywhere, Anyplace, Anytime" to him. She was a joy to work with, especially since the owner of the joint went out of his way to torment her, myself, and the bassist. We ignored him and pulled together to have a wonderful run. I still remember the way she did "The Thrill is Gone" rubato with me strumming and the bass (Morris Edwards) bowing. It gives me chills to think about it. Her other specialty numbers included That's My Desire, Don't go to Strangers, and the last night when we basically said screw the owner and played for us, she got up from the piano and spanked All Of Me. She was a champ.
Sorry I don't know anything about this date. It sounds kind of bizarre, actually---but, hey, you never know. They're all great musicians. But 'Hadn't Anyone till You' was another of her signature tunes. Probably they were all in London separately and somehow Warne and Lee wound up backing her on her gig which was recorded. Stanger things have happened.
And I hope you all didn't mind the reminiscing. It's just that I want people to know what kind of singer and person Hadda was.
The Humphrey Bogart film referred to is IN A LONELY PLACE (1950) ... co-starring Gloria Graham, and directed by Nicholas Ray. This film is now considered to be one Bogart's absolute best, and has increasingly attracted the attention of film scholars as being a classic 'film noir'. ... Hadda Brooks is prominently featured in a nightclub scene singing a "full" version of "I Hadn't Anyone Till You" while Bogart and Graham are sitting at her piano bar. Interestingly she still gets accolades from my very jaded students, many of whom have never heard anything like this before. Fascinating how real talent always wins through eventually.
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Hmmmmmmmmm ... I must admit I feel sorry for anyone not "moved" by the opening of "Hello, Young Lovers" from this set .... pure (bop) jazz trombone at its absolute best .... But, different strokes .... that's what makes art ...
In this vein I must confess that I have never "gotten" the mystique surrounding Wayne Shorter as a player, who I find boring, although I do like his compositions; and I just do not "get" the enthusiasm for Lee Morgan's "lotsa notes without a coherent theme" playing (Art Farmer is my man!) ... so throw bricks ... I am ready ...
Garth,
Houston.
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Pardon my bringing this thread up again, but I must compliment the Andorrean Pirates at Lonehill (which I am ambivalent about) for their recent reissue of the four albums from the 1950s featuring Cleveland as leader. This 2-CD collection contains the following very hard to find albums, especially on CD (God Knows! I have been continuously thwarted in my attempt to get a winning bid on some of these on Ebay in the past):
Introducing Jimmy Cleveland
Cleveland Style
A Map of Jimmy
Rhythm Crazy.
A Saturday afternoon well spent ... I just love this period and style of jazz, (New York in the late 50s -- I should also note that I equally enjoy the West Coast sounds from L.A. during this same period). These albums have great arrangements by Quincy Jones, Benny Golson, Gigi Gryce, and Ernie Wilkens, and wonderful stuff from sidemen such as Art Farmer, Lucky Thompson, and Benny Golson. My question for Mike Fitzgerald (or anyone else) reading this post, is why did Jimmy Cleveland, prolific as he was as a session player, make so few albums as a leader? Was there some "incident" which turned him off from this role?
Garth,
Houston.
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I will happily admit that even an old dog like me has learned a lot from this board, and my musical tastes, so carefully honed over the years, have been greatly expanded by listening to what people have to offer on here. Why else would I buy Allen Lowe's wonderful compendium "The Devlin' Tune" or where else would I learn about those great inexpensive box sets from European sources ... So, yes, I am spending more ... and enjoying it as much as I ever did.
As I have mentioned a few times, I sold my 8,000+ LP collection in 2001 ... but Damn! I already have about 3,800 CDs now ... what happend to my plan to downsize? I put a great deal of the blame on my membership on this board.
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Hmmmmmmmmm ... as I already have all of this stuff in my third generation format (The Big Blue Box) I wonder what the likelihood is of this great set becoming available at Your Music for about $24.98 sometime in July??
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Another sad day as one of my early heroes departs. How well I remember those yellow label 12" Prestige albums that I had specially imported into South Africa from the U.S. by friendly merchant sailors in the late fifties. (That was the only way I could get them after reading the reviews in Metronome or Downbeat). There were always arguments among my small group of jazz friends as to the merits between West Coast altoists like Bud Shank and Herb Geller, and the East Coast players like Jackie Mclean and Phil Woods ... I liked them all, and now Bud and Phil are making albums together (a very good one too, on Jazzed Media). Mclean has left behind a wonderful legacy of music for us to enjoy ... RIP Jackie!
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I have just about everything that this band made available commercially ... It took me some time to convince others in the 70s and 80s that this really was a GREAT jazz orchestra. I used to feature the CBBB regularly on my radio show, and they never failed to elicit lots of mail and phonecalls. That two drum sound with Kenny Clare was amazing, and when Joe Harris played tympanies on occasion that was enough to send shivers up my spine... We must also not forget how much Sahib Shihab contributed to the "sound" of this band ... his flute and baritone are indispensible to what Francie Boland was trying to achieve, and his career was revitalized in this ensemble ...
Garth,
Houston.
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Okay, tried to watch it again and actually read that it's a SOUNDIE! They were printed backwards on the film since they were projected onto a mirror then onto the back of a screen for viewing, not completely unlike today's rear-projection TVs.
'Twas an optical delulsion....
Ted, first, as I told you once before, I loved your show when I lived in Toronto, and later in the internet ... what are you up to these days?
Reading the comments to this soundie was almost as interesting as the viewing of it. There is one letter from the daughter of one of the Marimba Queens providing wonderful backgound details. ... What a hoot this is ...
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In my neverending quest to bring you folks the greatest in soundies, here is a true gem .. enjoy!
http://www.archive.org/stream/SoundieF/SoundieF_256kb.mp4
Garth,
Houston.
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SHAME! SHAME! All of you ... Go stand in the corner!
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After a sunny week diving in Cozumel, I come to this discussion a little late, so everything that needs to be said has been said. I just counted 45 MJQ CDs and 3 Box sets of MJQ material on my shelves (I include the Milt Jackson "Early Modern" on Savoy as a proto-MJQ project) ... I say this not to brag (as I am sure that Peter F. probably has a larger collection) but more to show my LOVE of their music, and my intense committment to it since acquiring my first 10" in 1954 (I have also not included the 24 John Lewis separate CDs in this counting).
Favorites .... "The Last Concert" 2-CD set has it all ... and I have always been mesmerized by John Lewis's "creative" comping behind Milt Jackson on the the "Fontessa" b-side -- the first time I became aware of this joyful aspect of their ensemble playing. I can honestly say that as many times as I have listened to this group, I always seem to disover something new in further listenings. Leaning back in my leather chair, a glass of good wine in my hand, in a dim light late at night, listening to the MJQ swinging away is as close to heaven as I can get here on this earth.
Garth,
Houston.
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I am not sure whether this has been posted here yet ... sorry if it has. In any case, this footage speaks for itself .... it just blew me away. Here is rare photage of Bird and Hawkins. I particularly like the little scene where Pres enters and puts on his porkpie hat before playing! Bill Harris and Flip Phillips also make great contributions ... So, if you have not see it before, and apparently few have, enjoy ...
http://www.dailymotion.com/alternativa/video/53031
I am also not sure if this is the right place to post this topic .... but it features "artists", right?
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Happy birthday! If you were born 1970, then you & I are the exact same age!
Uhhhh... I don't think so. Happy Birthday Garth!!!
C'mon Joe .. we old professors have to stick together ... no one in Hollywood ever reveals their age !!! Thanks for the b'day wishes though ...
Lone Hiill Reissue Program
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Have you checked the Lone Hill catalog recently? Can you overcome your feelings of guilt?
Seriously, I am amazed at what Lone Hill as recently made available, and they are certainly showing the American record company laggards how to do it. Yes, I know that by not paying anything for this material they can turn a profit with relatively low unit sales, but still ... why did they reissue the Jimmy Cleveland material, and not Universal. The same goes for the wonderful Maynard Ferguson "west coast" material that has been totally unavailable since the mid-fifties! The whole Norgran/Clef/Verve fifties catalog is going to be their playground in the next four years ... maybe some of those lost gems will finally see the light of day sometime soon. And, their liner notes are improving quite a bit, but still leave much to be desired.
Any yes ... I do have some feelings of guilt ... bu not enough to stop me from picking up some neglected gems.
http://www.freshsoundrecords.com/newreleases.php