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How could the Red Sox let Victor Martinez go the Tigers? Dan?
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Very disheartening to read about the passing of such a good person in the prime of life. I wish the very best to you, your daughters and loved ones.
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to answer the prior question about what is meant by he "does everything right, but just does not interest me."
Well, he plays nice notes and proper rhythms, doesn't embarass himself, is a pro and is always prepared.
as for playing "at" the music instead of inhabiting it, harder to define, but clear to me, anyway - it's kind of like those programs that do human speech, everything is correct in terms of pronunciation and grammer, but it sounds programmed and second hand. He is, to me, liked a VERY advanced version of one of those programs (like Sonny Stitt on a bad day).
I'm sure this will piss a few people off, but I am posting here under my first amendement rights. Feel free to dis a few of my favorites (like Dexter Gordon, Oscar Peterson.......) -
Well, I'm glad you took the trouble to elucidate what you meant, but again, there will be subjective differences in how one personally applies your definition of "playing at", etc. Peterson to me is the epitome of sounding programmed, even second hand despite the formidable technique, and more importantly has never moved me emotionally, unlike Joe. OP has however, countless times, moved me to lift the needle off the record as I have tried often to grasp his appeal. On the plus side, we both love Dexter!
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Henderson's one of those guys who does everything right, but just does not interest me.
somehow he always seems like he's playing at the music instead of inhabiting it.
I'd be interested to know who else in your opinion "does everything right" yet holds no interest for you. Also, can it be verbally explained how one plays "at" the music instead of "inhabiting it"? I know each to his own, but for my money, Joe's '60s Blue Note output in particular, either under his own name or as a sideman for Horace, KD, McCoy, Andrew, constitutes some of the most exhilarating modern jazz I've ever heard and I've put in more than 45 years worth of listening and attending. Obviously, no minds will be changed, I just had to put in a solid word for one of the really great tenor saxophonists of all time.
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i was watching the lee morgan/john gilmore/john hicks/victor sproles/blakey band on that uk tv program, and i was thinking my god. if only blakey was still w/ blue note, this band would of made a KILLER record together. just like the video. instead they went over to
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limelight ....and some mediocre sessions that produced some stuff for compilations, think. THINK: if there had been a blue note lp w/ that jazz 625 lineup....It's difficult to figure out exactly what were the contractual arrangements during Blakey's Blue Note years. While making several sessions for Blue Note spanning the years 1960-64, he and the Jazz Messengers also made excellent recordings during that time for Impulse and Riverside. It appears that the Lion and the Wolff in at least a few instances did not demand exclusivity from the artists they recorded.
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Twenty-five years ago, November 1985, Joe Henderson and his trio, featuring Joe Henderson on tenor saxophone, Ron Carter on double bass and Al Foster on drums performed three days at the famous Village Vanguard in New York City.
These concerts were recorded and released by Blue Note and still belong, together with the Sonny Rollins Village Vanguard concert of November 1957, the Coltrane Village Vanguard recordings of November 1961 and the Chick Corea Blue Note Club recordings from 1998, to the best live recordings in Jazz ever.
Joe Henderson Trio at the Village Vanguard - 1985: State of the Tenor
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My wife and I had just recently been married and we were there. Saw Joe many times, always dug him.
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Nathan Davis Quartet - Jazz in a Benedictine Monastery
It has its moments.
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I never owned the original 2 CD set, but I did pick up the 7 CD box last year and have been gradually wending my way through it since the summer. I'm 5 CDs in and this is really magical music. I've heard Getz music from the 50s, 60s, and 70s and, while I like it, none of it comes close to matching the depth of this stuff.
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I suggest picking up the late '80s Getz quartet (with Barron) live stuff, all of which I find excellent: ANNIVERSARY (EmArcy), SERENITY (EmArcy), SOUL EYES (Concord) and YOURS AND MINE (Concord). Getz's playing as well as Barron's are superb on these albums as well. I listen more to these sets because I prefer the presence of a rhythm section, but I too enjoy the 2-CD PEOPLE TIME set as well.
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Speaking of Trane, enjoy very much Wes' cooking rendition of "Impressions" on this live 2-LP set recorded in Paris, March '65.
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The Candid Dolphy CD has take 3 of 'T' Ain't Nobody's Business if I do' (7:42) which is a different take from the Candid Newport Rebels original (7:11).
The Mingus Candid CD (Reincarnation of a Love Bird) has a different take (take 4) of 'Wrap Your Troubles In Dreams' (3:55) that is different from the Candid LP (3:47).
Thanks. I have the original LPs and the Candid CDs and had never realized that these takes differed, particularly the Abbey as I've listened to her version of "T'aint...." quite a few times over the years.
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No wonder that Tampa Bay simply dropped Burrell earlier this season. Simply awful at the plate. Should be either dropped way down in the batting order or benched.
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Theory is great is baseball, but you need outs, and Feliz hasn't pitched in a lot of days, so use him fer cryin' out loud! I mean, he gets the third out, and he can pitch the bottom of the 9th.
That's the type of thing that if the manager's instincts play out, he's a great manager, and if they don't, he's an idiot.
OTOH, as much as I admire the "you're my guys, yesterday was then, this is now, just play baseball" approach, not just on this team but as a "life principle" in general, at some point loaded guns need to be held to the heads (and/or groins) of the entire Rangers bullpen and one or two need to be fired, just to set an example.
Enough is more than enough.
Did you catch the split second shot of Holland screaming into his glove when he saw Washington coming out to relieve him? The man was definitely immersed in a hellhole of his own making.
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Ron Washington did not manage the 9th well at all -- not even using Feliz?? They needed to keep it to a two run lead, and Ron was acting like it was the middle of July.
Especially when you realize that Friday is an off day, why not bring in Feliz to at least keep it at 2-0? But once it became 9-0, Ranger hitters looked especially beat in their last turn at bat.
Still can't get over how Kinsler's shot didn't head out after it hit the top of the wall. At 1-1, it's a different game.
However, the Ranger bullpen is turning in a disgraceful performance, no other way to put it.
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I was born in 1954 and didn't really become aware of team sports until I was 8 years-old...the year was 1962. Giants made the WS only to lose to the hated Yankees in 7 games.
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I'm a bit older, a Yankee fan, and I recall pacing like crazy watching the 9th inning of the final game when Willie McCovey finally ended it by smashing a line drive to Bobby Richardson, the Yankee 2nd baseman, with men on 2nd and 3rd, 2 outs bottom of the 9th, score 1-0. A true game of inches. The Yanks had scored the only run much earlier when the Giants conceded the run in order to turn a double play in a bases loaded, no out situation. Closest WS in history. The teams alternated victories, i.e., Yanks won games 1, 3, 5, 7, Giants won 2, 4, 6. I recall reading the NY papers the following day in which several Yanks admitted that the Giant team was their equal and the Series could just as easily gone the other way.
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Well, now that we know who the WS teams are, I'll add one comment. Taking DH Vlad Guerrero out of the lineup for the 1st two games of the Series hurts the Rangers for sure.
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Love the clarinet. PM sent.
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FWIW, when the umps blew that call, I had a hunch that would actually work out in the Rangers favor because, even though the run scored, Swisher's still batting and he's been in a horrible slump this entire series. Sure enough, Swisher grounded out, but then the next batter doubled. Had that call been reversed, instead of a tie game, it's a 2-1 game and the Yankees would still have been batting.
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Not necessarily. With Swisher on 1st, perhaps the 1st baseman holds him closer to the bag and then is able to snare Posada's ground ball before it caroms off the bag for a double. On another note, I look at the replay and wonder how the home plate ump could have missed the call. There's no way for the ball to ricochet the way it did unless it hit Swisher which it obviously did.
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Shit. You mean there was a game last night?
Not really. Only one team showed up.
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Yankees just got a gift on the play where the batter was hit, but not a single ump saw it. A-Rod was able to score on the past ball which shouldn'ta been a past ball. Hope that play doesn't determine the outcome.
I shouldn't worry. 6-1 Rangers, 2 outs in the top of the 8th. Yanks looking extremely pathetic. Give Rangers all the credit. They made lots of 2 out hits in this series with men on base, Yanks did not. As an AL fan, I wish you luck in the Series.
P.S. Love that Andrus fellow at short.
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See, you Giants, Phils, Rangers, and Yankees fans have it rough...all this worrying, fearing your team might not win it all. The rest of us have it made....Take this Braves fan for example. Big news here. Melky Cabrera was released. We might be able to ship Kenshin Kawakami back to Japan, and have a team there pick up half of his 6 + million dollar contract! With the saving right there, the Braves will easily be able to pay Carl Crawford 20 Mil a year for the next 6 seasons!
Yep, I really feel y'alls pain!
Heard the news about Melky. I can't understand it. I liked him when he was with the Yanks. Threw people out taking the extra base, a switch hitter with pop and the ability to hit in the clutch. What happened with the Braves?
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Let's not forget the troubles the Rangers have had at home in October. Best thing for them is to come out relaxed and smack Sabathia around, and have Wilson pitch as well as he did in the first game - and a lefty in the Bronx is at an advantage. I'd want to get this over with and not let the Yankees get any ideas.
"Ideas" won't do the Yanks any good. Clutch hitting, an ability to throw base runners out, bullpen effectiveness, decent starting pitching, and finding a way to control the bats of Young, Hamilton and Guerrero, would do well to extend the series. To expect all of that to happen is not at all realistic and of course, losing Tex defensively (his offense was non-existent) hurts. However, I've felt all along that the 2010 Yanks are not World Series championship caliber and so I cannot say that I'm very surprised by how this series has turned.
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My take on Cliff Lee. If he's a Yankee, you go to the World Series next week. If he's not, you go home this week.
Dan, I wish I shared your enthusiasm for a comeback, but New York bats are so quiet that even with some decent pitching, I can't see it happening. As a group, they are hitting just .188 in the ALCS. The fact of the matter is, this is an aging ballclub with marginal pitching that is getting zero production from Texiera (.000) and Rodriguez (.154). These are the guys who make huge money and, at least in theory, are supposed to be doing the heavy lifting this time of the year. As much as i'd like it to be otherwise, I'm afraid the Yanks have left the building.
Add the fact that Jeter is striking out more often than I'm customarily used to - see the way he totally failed to at least move Gardiner to 3rd with no outs last night - and this series is becoming an exercise in total Yankee bat futility. Also, I love the way Tex plays 1st base, but when, if ever, is he going to learn to hit a two strike curve ball? He's become an automatic out with two strikes as long as the pitcher can get an off speed pitch over any part of the plate.
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As bad as tonight's game was and that the Yanks are now down 2-1, I think Girardi should still go with AJ tomorrow night as much as I can't stand to see him pitch. One, JG already stated the guy is to start Game 4. Two, AJ is being paid royally to be a Yankee. Three, see if AJ can regain his past effectiveness in a clutch game. Four, if he screws up (as I expect), do everything you can to get rid of him prior to next season. Five, a loss and the Yanks are still alive having to win 3 straight in order to advance, but at least they have their top three starters going with full rest.
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After we beat the Rays and got that monkey off our back, I - and many others - were saying that whatever happened against the Yankees would be ok, that just getting to this level was a major milestone for the franchise, and even if we got swept by the Yankees again, that it would be ok. Not as in "oh well!", but as in "let's build from this and keep growing".
But to blow that lead the way we did, to just have a complete meltdown comparable to every other mentally dysfunctional Metroplex sports franchise, was painful to watch. These guys, I was hoping, were not the head cases that everybody else was. But there it was. For 1/18 of a game, they were the old Rangers, the Cowboys, and the Mavericks all rolled into one. And 1/18 of a game was all it took.
Hopefully the guys will remember how this felt, and hopefully they will resolve to never feel that way again. If they lose the series, they lose it. I was expecting them to, to be honest. But dammit, lose it honestly, don't just give shit away. Lose with pride, not shame.
Time will tell.
Jim, I understand the troubled-Texas-legacy issue, but still, I’d rather lose the way they did last night than the way the Yankees did today. Last night Texas lost because of one abysmal half-inning. NY lost today because they were dominated inning after inning…pretty much the way they were last night, with the exception of that 8th inning. Texas has outhit and outpitched us, and we’re extremely lucky to be leaving town tied 1-1. I don’t like losing close games, but I hate like hell just getting beat up for several hours straight. The only thing the Yankees can be proud of is their bullpen performance--and they got their workout because NY's starters were so awful.
Gutcheck time for NY on Monday night the way it was for Texas today. Pettitte on the mound, at Yankee Stadium—they have got to beat Cliff Lee. Screw this “win four around Lee’s starts” notion (and anyway, by those lights we’ve now given away our one non-Lee loss). And congratulations again to the Rangers for showing up in a big way today.
Well, at least it’ll be a pleasure to watch Lincecum-Halladay, after two such embarrassing outings from the Yankee starters.
I don't understand your thinking at all. It's much better psychologically for players as well as fans to get blown out like the Yanks did today, than to lose like the Rangers did last night, blowing a five run lead. Today, I saw that Hughes didn't have it and that the Yanks could hardly get a clutch hit, and I was out of there after four or five innings. Just a forgettable game, we'll get 'em next time (I hope). But to be up by five and to watch your team melt in the late innings, that truly is aggravating for any fan and very disheartening to the players on the losing team.
Keith Jarrett on a Rant
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If you can find it or access it somehow, listen to the "Piano Jazz" program KJ did with Marian McPartland, She was gracious and effervescent as usual and he came across as a total a**hole. He refused to duet with her on a tune she "suggested" claiming unfamiliarity, even though these suggestions are discussed and agreed to in advance, etc. His whole attitude reeked of self-importance and condescension, rather nervy in terms of Marian's longevity and stature as the long time hostess of a terrific radio program. The man is insufferable. I'm glad that his vocal mannerisms when he plays turns me off so much, that I never have the urge to listen to his trio, much less his solo, recordings. (I do like quite a few of the Impulse '70s material with Redman & Haden however).