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Here's the blurb on "The Peace-Maker" from dustygroove.com, just for more info...
A fantastically beautiful record that stands as the first meeting between Bobby Hutcherson and Harold Land -- an album that's possibly even better than the more famous Blue Note work by the pair! This is one of those "once in a lifetime" jazz sessions -- filled with magical interplay that's made the record a favorite with collectors for years, and done with a sound that's as lyrically graceful as it is soulful and righteous! Hutcherson's vibes are at their warmest 60s mode, but still have some of the angularity of his more modern sides for Blue Note -- but Land is the real discovery here -- as he steps out with a fluidity that surpasses any of his earlier hardbop albums, a flowing exploratory style expressed on both flute and tenor -- with a mode that's years ahead of its time, and sounds a lot more like work on labels like Strata East or Muse from the 70s. Tracks are nearly all originals by Land, and are the kind of thoughtful jazz compositions that show up on a rare few records from the 60s -- all of them are great, and sparkle with creativity and a subdued sense of righteousness. Titles include "One For Nini", "Angel Dance", "The Peace Maker", "40 Love", "Stylin", and "The Aquarian".
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Reese and the Smooth Ones is one of my favorite AEC records.
Chuck, coming from you that carries a lot of weight! Thanks!
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The Redman is a keeper. I like his The Ear of the Behearer even better, but Tarik is a nice complement to that album. Fine Ed Blackwell on it as well.
Thanks, I will check it out, and the other one you mentioned too. Tarik caught my eye because of Blackwell and Malachi Favors, and also because of the price (6.99)!
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i think there is also an enja disc with a mixed bag of performances on it which i have never heard-but one of the longer performances is by land/hutcherson. also has karin krog and bill evans with tony oxley?
Yeah, the performance on that Enja disc is killer...same group except Hal Galper replaces Stanley Cowell.
And yes, there are a number of phenomenal performances of the group from Europe in 1969 and 1970. Most have Cowell, a couple have Galper on piano.
The holy grail for me would be finding some video of this group! I don't know if it exists, but I feel like there's a chance, since they performed quite a bit in Europe and so much of it was well documented. The Europeans certainly did a better job of taping and broadcasting this kind of stuff.
Here's something I've wondered about, though...there was a TV program called "Mixed Bag" on WGBH-TV in Boston in the late sixties and I think Bobby Hutcherson did one of these programs...don't know if Harold was involved or not. I've looked around for info on this show but found nothing. Does anyone know whether any of that footage still exists?
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I too would be curious as to the merits of "The Peace Maker", webbcity can you elaborate a little more on this one please?
I love the group on this disc...Hutcherson sounds amazing as always, Buster Williams' bass and Donald Bailey's drumming are splashy and a bit loose...groovin'. I don't honestly know much about Joe Sample but I like his piano playing on this a lot. And Harold's playing at this point was going through big changes...obviously much more modern than the bop stuff from the 50s and early 60s, but he's not yet at the point he was at on Hutcherson records like Medina and Total Eclipse. The tunes on The Peace-Maker are generally blues-based, so it's not nearly as abstract as those two Hutcherson records I mentioned simply because of that. But the playing is energetic! Definitely very 60s sounding in some ways, although it also reminds me of the 70s Strata-East label style a bit. So it is kind of looking ahead and backwards at the same time. Nice tunes by Harold. "The Aquarian" is one of my favorites. And the title track is beautiful, in my opinion.
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(...) the Sextett's Arista/Novus LPs have good music, but not great sound.
charles
edited to reflect the correct spelling of the 7-member "sextett"
Personally, I think Threadgill's RCA/Novus cds are some of the best music he made.
Think of Rag, Bush And All!
Rag, Bush, and All is killer! But yeah, there's definitely something wrong with the sound on that one...it sounds like it's underwater. I always have to crank the treble on that one.
My current favorite is You Know The Number. "Theme from Thomas Cole" blows my mind. Frank Lacy's trombone punches me right in the face. And the sound on this one is phenomenal, in my opinion.
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Is it just me? I've bought probably 4 or 5 Black Lion CDs and most of them seem to have problems...
On their release of Stanley Cowell's "Brilliant Circles," one of the channels is about 1/3rd the volume of the other and the EQ is very dull. And because of the way the album was mixed, that means it's tough to hear some of the instruments. This sounds like it was dubbed off a bad tape deck.
Cowell's "Travelin' Man" (aka "Blue for the Viet Cong") sounds OK, but again, I think the channels are slightly out of whack causing the drums to be overpowering on a couple of tunes. Is this the case with the original?
I've also heard some other oddities, including a Tete Montoliu release on Black Lion that had digital glitches & skips all the way through it.
The thing is, you can usually find Black Lion CDs for pretty cheap, and I want to consider purchasing their disc of the Art Ensemble of Chicago's "Tutankhamun"...but I'm feeling a little wary about that. Any thoughts?
Tim
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Like the subject says, these are some LPs/CDs I'm looking for some opinions on before I plunk down any $$$. Have you heard any of these? A couple of them are fairly obscure...I haven't found anything on either the Joe Masters "Jazz Mass" or the Dwight Dickerson LP.
Joe Masters- Jazz Mass (Columbia)
Dwight Dickerson- Sooner or Later (Discovery)
Robin Kenyatta- Beggars & Stealers (Muse)
Dewey Redman- Tarik
Art Ensemble- Reese & The Smooth Ones
Thanks!!
Tim
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am i right to assume "the peace maker" is not a very um cosmic session?
i see bailey and sample and i imagine this session is more towards "virgo vibes" bluesy swing than the deeper blue note hutcherson/land vibe?
i am interested in buying "the peace maker" but if it is pretty earthbound swinging stuff i can pass for japanese import prices.
i think i remember mr. chuck didn't love this session but dan gould liked it a lot?
I'm a big fan of this one, but yes, if you are comparing it to Hutcherson's Medina, Spiral, or Total Eclipse, this one is a lot less abstract and closer to "mainstream" I guess, whatever that is. In my opinion though, a great recording. Donald Bailey's harmonica on the second cut is pretty funny, but I like it... :-)
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I wish his Mainstream lps would be reissued in total. Mosaic Select anyone?
Absolutely. "Choma," "A New Shade of Blue" and "Damisi" are fantastic. And there must be some alternate takes out there...
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Anybody out there a Harold Land fan?
Me, though it sounds like you've got a lot of stuff I don't have yet. I trust you have the Carmell Jones Select and the Curtis Counce Group albums...Land is in top form on these.
Yes, excellent stuff! He sounds incredible on Carmell's recordings. And "Jazz Impressions of Folk Music" is on there too. I actually avoided that recording for a while because I thought the concept was a bit too goofy. I mean, I couldn't imagine that an album containing "Hava Na Gila" and "On Top of Old Smokey" could be any good. Boy, was I wrong...
Tim
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xoscia's dance (spelling?) is an album that didn't connect with me totally but is worth a listen if you are a land fan. it's on muse and from 1980. billy higgins is that star of this show, though-doing some interesting stuff on the cymbals, IMO. bobby hutcherson shows up, but unfortunately, only in a limited (3 song?) capacity.
I felt the same about that album, but it's one I return to a few times every year. I also have Harold playing with Jimmy Liggins and his Drops of Joy in the late 40s. I do like to remember where these guys did their training.
MG
I like Xocia's Dance, but I agree it's a bit uneven. A few of the tunes on there really blow me away though..."Dark Mood" is one of my favorite Land compositions.
What is the Jimmy Liggins recording? I'd love to hear more Land from that period. I have some early tracks he did on a compilation called "Black California" and they're outstanding.
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I was playing a gig in Vegas in 1981 and saw a TV commercial that Tony Bennett did for the Chamber of Commerce (or something like it).
Upon further reflection, I believe that the commercial was for the Las Vegas Jazz Society.
I wish I could find recordings of Harold with Tony...I know he did several tours with him. Surely one of them was recorded for a radio broadcast?
Tim
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This is a GREAT disc! And frankly, I need to listen to it more, so thank you for posting this, I'll pull it out now!
I was very happy that Blue Note decided to reissue this one, I had been looking for it for a while but only found people selling it on ebay for $35 or more.
Tim
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Count me in also as a very big Harold Land fan, there are quite a few threads on his work on this site which delve into the various recordings. Of the obscurities of note it's worth mentioning Bobby Hutcherson's 'Inner Glow' (King Blue Note, hopefully to be reissued by Mosaic as part of a Mosaic Select) and that lovely laid-back session with strings 'A Lazy Afternoon'. What amazed me was that as recent as 1999 when I caught his band at a gig he was still playing in that exploratory style he used on the Land/Hutcherson albums. Obviously influenced by Coltrane but with his own somewhat angular/sour tone adding an intriguing edge and element of unpredictability. A wonderfully individual tenor stylist - always instantly recognisable.
I do have a copy of Inner Glow on tape...it's an interesting record. Some good stuff, but Harold I think only gets one solo on the whole album. I do hope Mosaic releases it though! A Lazy Afternoon is fantastic.
Wow, you saw him live. Sadly I started getting into his music just shortly before he passed away, so I never had the pleasure of seeing him.
Tim
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Tim,
Are you familiar with the bit-torrent download site, Dimeadozen.org? There were some awesome private recordings of Land available in the last few months, including a 1965 show in Seattle with Monk Montgomery and Philly Joe, a 1958 concert with Elmo Hope, as well as an appearance of the Land-Blue Mitchell group shortly before Blue died.
Hi Dan,
Thanks, yes, I'm on dimeadozen and have grabbed the recordings you mentioned...both the '58 and the '65 show are amazing! Those shows popped up because I made a similar request fro Land material on the Dime Yahoo group. And I was actually the one who uploaded the '78 show with Land & Mitchell too.
Still holding out for some video...I know Harold made a bunch of TV appearances including one with the Harold Land/RED Mitchell group on Jazz Scene USA in 1960 or so. But I would kill for any audio or video from 1966-1975!
Tim
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Anybody seen something like this? I haven't come across a complete Cowell discography but would like to. I should think it would be pretty extensive.
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I'm a little late to this thread, but I have to say...
Bobby Hutcherson – Happenings
FINALLY! I've been waiting for this one to come back in print. A phenomenal record.
And I guess I must be dull too, 'cause I also like Mobley's "Another Workout."
Tim
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Anybody out there a Harold Land fan? I got into his playing about five or six years ago, starting with his classic hard bop albums like "Harold in the Land of Jazz" and "The Fox," then getting into his more adventurous stuff from the 60s and 70s with Bobby Hutcherson and his own albums on Cadet and Mainstream. My two favorites are probably "The Peace-Maker" and "Choma (Burn)." Killer stuff.
"The Peace-Maker" is now available as a Japanese import on CD, but I'm still holding out for a domestic release (I have the LP to tide me over until then). I think Verve owns the Cadet catalog now if I'm not mistaken.
I've also heard talk of Mosaic releasing a Hutcherson/Land Select edition set late this year. I hope that's not just a rumor, I've been bugging them about this for years!
For the last several years I've been obsessed with tracking down anything I can that Land has played on. Having picked up most of the commercially available recordings and hard-to-find LPs I'm now on the lookout for the really rare/unissued stuff, whether it's recordings, interviews, film (especially!) or whatever...please drop me a line if you hear of anything!
Thanks,
Tim
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I had no idea he was so sick. This is terrible news.
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Jim Hall It's Nice to be With You - Jim Hall in Berlin $4
I LOVE this record! One of my favorite Jim Hall recordings. There is some beautiful really beautiful playing on this one.
And Tom...is that you? I think we may know each other from Dime.
Tim
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Hello, just found this thread and not only am I jumping on it late, I am very sorry to be the bearer of some terrible news...it seems that Jackie McLean passed away yesterday. What a terrible loss.
Jazz Alto Saxophonist Jackie McLean Dies at 73
http://www.boston.com/news/local/connectic...ist_dies_at_73/
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Art Ensemble of Chicago - Nice Guys
Love this one...I'm on a big AACM kick right now...
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there is no jazz in Southern Maine -
Apart from Kevin's previous response, there are couple more answers to this:
1. Yes there is, in my living room (I live in Kittery)
2. That's part of the problem, why do you think I started the site?
Part of the goal of the site is of course to get people out to see shows that are already happening. The other part is to eventually create NEW opportunites, put on concerts and so forth. It's going to be a long road.
Tim
Stanley Cowell discography?
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Wow, this looks really interesting. Went to the website and saw issue no. 586 with Stanley on the cover. There's a full discography in there? I may have figure out how to order this...too bad the magazine is in French, I won't be able to read the interview...but I assume the discography will be easy enough to figure out.
Thanks!
Tim