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no, I have to admit where Krupinski would be sorted in there is a black hole in my collection....guess I need to change that and fill that gap.
Cheers, Tjobbe
Okay, but when you mend your black hole, there are several CDs with the UK and DF-Duo and some very impressive solo-CDs, I think, Nate can recommend another (or some other) recording(s) of UK.
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Mr. Bassman
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"not very pleased" ..... it's just that I liked his old French doghouse better!
I know ... it is a 1795er by N. Guinot. -
Ah...Track 3 from Berlin. Good advice Mr. B.
Me and my advices .... 
Yes 
..... but, for some smilings, i thought that you would recognize it without the help *duckandhide* 
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Mr. Bassman
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BOB MINTZER BIG BAND
The DMP CD The First Decade of Bob Mintzer Big Band has been released more then 10 years ago, but is still a remarkable productions containing tracks from the first 10 years of this great big band.
I heard this CD for the first time and was impressed by the clear transparant sound of it, and I'm anxious to find more recordings of this great band. Suggestions welcome !
Durium
I have another recording from the DMP-time with this big-band. It is called Urban Contours and the sound is typical for dmp-records, very impressive and great dynamics. I bought this shortly after the release date, because someone recommended this. The music on this CD shows a strong relationsship to groove and some funky ideas. I liked (and like) this one, because they sound modern to my ears in those days. I was not very introduced to BigBand-Music in those times (and there is a lot uncharted land in this theme for me...)... and this Bob Mintzer was that much different to the things i normally combinded to BigBand-Music in those times (well it was 1989/90). And there was another point of view to this CD: I used this as a kind of reference for sound recording, when we had some listening-sessions. The music "jumped" out of the speakers directly to your ears with that strong, crisp and clear sound. Well... today we are more used to that sound, but in those days it was a real exciting experience!
Maybe this link can be useful for Bob Mintzer (he did a lot of dmp-recordings...) and to the dmp-recordings, too: http://www.dmprecords.com/index.html . I have soem other dmp-CDs in my collection, if there is some interest, i can select them and give you some impressions.
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Mr. Bassman
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Aha, I was wondering if that was Kropinski.... been years since I saw him play but he's pretty unmistakable. -- You a fan of Helmut "Joe" Sachse, the other guitarist in Doppelmoppel? I remember him as been terrific too. He has a few discs on FMP but I've never checked them out....
I know Helmut "Joe" Sachse not very much and i have no recording from Doppelmoppel. I remember some radio-broadcasting some time ago. Maybe there is a bit of music with Joe waiting on the tapes.... I think about some airplay with Baby Sommer .... can't remember by heart. Back to the BFT... it is easyly to hear, that there is no Joe Sachse on this track
.... Kropinski has a special connection to some other musician. This one is not reveiled yet. Okay, mikeweil knows it... because he "ordered" me to put something into this BFT. ... and he is not very pleased.... because he knows something about the instruments of this musician. with regards
Mr. Bassman
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Up for Mr. Bassman, who got curious after telling him about this thread I started.
Any updates, gentlemen?
... i talked to mikeweil about the after-the-gig-ceremonies.... and he invited me to this thread...at first, after stowing away the instruments etc. there is a "have-a-drink" phase, normally mineral water, then it will be followed by the "fridge"-phase for a snack and then a visit to the bathroom. The next phase is "coming-down"... reading newspapers or reading in a book, which waits for me at the cupboard beside the bed, sometimes a bit INet. In rare situations there will be a stop at the whisky-bar and a fine dram closes a fine concert (... or works for the "musicians-food-problems"
....).... but, the last saturday was different..... as I am in this BFT-thing here at organissimo ..., the first after-hour-relaxation-thing was reading the new postings there and... writing some answers. Then there was the normal process... but no whisky at this time, because the sound on stage was THAT perfect 
..... and sleeping-phase after that was very short... the next day there was a trip to Hamburg on the scedule... drink & drive is not my hobby with regards
Mr. Bassman
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... i just returned from a gig with mikeweil and the other friends, who don't share this list....
in a few hours there is the next trip to Hamburg (600km one-way...), but.... here are the comments, I can't go to bed... i have to answer this before... 
Well, Nate, i got your message and i picked the quotes...10: Hm..... violinist & bassist with a very contemporary rhythm track. Enjoyable.Okay.
11: Guitar used as percussion--nice. The kind of track I can appreciate--with all the spotlit breakneck stoptime stuff--even if it's not really my thing, & all the tapping does go on a little too long.... I suppose it could be Uwe Kropinski, judging from the one time I saw him live with Doppelmoppel. Hey ! Here we go..... the guitar player is recognized! Well done.... even the percussion-thing is right. It is the guitar as a percussion-instrument... and we have no overdubs at all. But there is still something missing.... maybe another percussion-specialist ???12: Sounds like a jazz standard I should know but can't place it. I dunno, this is an accomplished track which does exactly what I expect it to--in particular the way the pianist opens the solo, & the habit of plunking the same note in a teasing/playful fashion, is a bit overfamiliar. Can't say who it is, my ability to distinguish between the many post-Evans/Jarrett piano trios is not finely honed.I think, it is not a Jazz-standard in the normal sense.... but they perform it as a "maybe"... it is another kind of "Standard", german people should be able to recognize this one ( the original composer is a "well-known" one in Germany, ... maybe not the Jazz-people
).... Okay, there is somewhat "familiar" in the playing etc., but as they are more the younger guys they will still have some time for a development. 13: Minor-key blues with a trombonist with a few quirky multiphonics things going on, & frazzly alto saxophonist. & for once a pianist who really keeps surprising... some real out-of-nowhere phrases in that solo! No idea who it is, but excellent stuff. I definitely don't know the pianist as he's pretty distinctive. Is the bassist the leader? A little surprised at the ordering of solos, though I suppose it could be that way because the bass leads more naturally back to the head.I can imagine, that you will like some other works of these musicians, they are somewhat a working band and they know each other for a while. I can confirm, that the bass-player is the leader here. They do sometimes unexpected or somewhat surprising things.
14: Hm.... interesting. The soprano sax began in John Surman territory but towards the end of the solo there are a few phrases that are hallmarks of Marty Ehrlich, so I'll go with Ehrlich.... though I hadn't previously thought of them as players who could be confused for one another!! (I guess the link is that both are players with an interest in bringing a certain folk-music quality to jazz.) No idea who the guitarist is. The track is good if not especially memorable.Interesting point... beside it is not Ehrlich, but the folk-music is a clue to this. These people have a strong relationship to the folk-music of their own. I have to give a funny clue.... i got this record as a "try-for-fun" from ebay.... nobody was bedding against me.... so i got this one.... and was pleased to listen to their recording. Sometimes there are very strang ways.... Well, it is not that "giant step", but it is not that bad !
15: An attractive signoff. I'm guessing they're trying for an African flavour here?Oh... no Africa at all ! Maybe in a hidden way ??? VERY hidden... Okay, i give some clues.... this bass-player is a famous one (hopefully ???) and this tune is well-known .... ehhh .... children will recognize this one more easyly.... i guess... more the girls
even the older girls, because it is not a creation of our days, it has some age..... but... this tune is not a folk-tune, it sounds like, but it was composed..... by Jazz-musicians! Can this help a little ?with regards
Mr. Bassman
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2 - john Patitucci?
I am sorry, no. There is no Patitucci in this BFT.... but he was on the "out"-list .... maybe he will join in 2008
The bass-player of #2 is a member of the modern jazz community and has published a bunch of recordings... maybe this special CD is not that well-known or a rare one. In comparison to Patitucci... he is not that involved in the electric-bass, maybe this is a little help ? Another one... he plays sometimes another stringed instrument.
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new update... there are 4 missing now .... or .... no receive-message to me.....
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I'm sorry about not having posted any comments yet. I did listen to the discs but I didn't have the opportunity to take any notes. I am very busy at the moment (have been for at least a month, will be for another two) but somehow had illusions about being able to reserve some time to listen to your discs carefully and comment on the music. I won't be able to do this for some more time even now, it seems. My apologies again.
(Still, I might be able to say a word or two around the time of comments by those who've yet to receive the discs.)
No problem at all.... you can give your comments and impressions at any time.
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So it's got to be the "Old Resin Bass Fiddle Four" doing "No Dogs Allowed"
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Hi Andrew,
thanks for the response
I was expecting when intro ends and the band would start, but unfortunately the whole track was just intro
Okay, now i understand. This song was composed for a quintett and there is a CD with that Version. This one in the BFT is the solo-adaption of this song. It is very interesting, that some people feel, in this solo-performance is something missing. One can "hear" that this tune is not "complete". Okay, it is a modern jazz-tune... maybe the original recording of the quintett is not that fun at all..... but in this solo-performance, you can "hear" the missing parts and musicians.
I don't know the recording, but thick bass sound seemed familiar to me
Yes, it is really a sort of unique sound. If someone listened to this sound for a first time and is introduced to him, he will (mostly) recognize the bass-player on other CDs, too.
with regards
Mr. Bassman
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Microsoft just scored a huge coup. The Mozilla code being open source, they programmed their own version of Firefox, that will likely become the standard browser on office computers (large companies don't trust free software).
Get the brand new Microsoft Firefox 2007 Professional Edition here:
.... i had some real problems with this, because i sipped at a cup of coffee when i started reading this new MS-improvement .... I like to recommend the "develepors" : http://www.msfirefox.com/developers-for-ms-firefox.html
or the nice pic of the CEO in the "career" http://www.msfirefox.com/microsoft-firefox-careers.html
added in the edit-mode: read about the TakeOver technologies and the brand new AKobe Phlash ! Very interesting !!!
someone should safe these sites in case of a normal Microsoft reaction.... hopefully they will keep this a bit alive... They are a real candidate for "best internet-joke Reward 2006" (if this would exist).
with a big
Mr. Bassman
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... and here are the comments... i think i have to give a lot of credits here , but it is a homeplay for mikeweil
Okay, so I finally find the time to stroll the "uncharted territories" of disc 2 .....
Oh... a few marks are still on the map!
Track 1: Now this is one everybody should know, not just bass players .... so you remembered this one: Wait till you hear the live version I have on vinyl!
Die hast du mir bis jetzt vorenthalten.... Schuft ! Yeah, I think everybody knows it now Track 2: An Ornette Coleman tune, If I'm not totally mislead. Nicely done. I'm not a fan of these fast virtuosic players, but this here works and fits the tune very well. Dave Holland? But not quite his sound ....
Tune is not from Ornette. Is Dave Holland a real guess and shall i say something to this or is Dave Holland just a kind of "shooting-into- the-blue"? To the virtuosity-theme... if this is music, it is okay, but if it is not, I call it sports
but this is no sports at all.Track 3: Nice juggling ryhthms in the theme. Or rather the intro. Rhodes and acoutic piano simultaneously? Yeah, this is verrry nice. I'd say this is in 15/8 time divided in 7-8, with tricky triplets in the 8/8 part. I like the soprano player more in the theme, where he displays a round, mellow sound, but he is tempted to the usual runs and trills in the solo. Hard to find an original style beneath the technical aspect these days. That pianist'sconcept is nice,but I like the sound the best, comping on the Rhodes for his own solo. But on the whole, this is a very good piece of music, and they know what they're doing. No idea who they are. Very nice ending!!!
Ah! Another lover of this ending. Tricky music, eh??? I didn't counted it, because you are much better in this
and... well, any idea of a geographical aspect ? Track 4: I should know this, at least the tenor sounds extremely familiar. Archie Shepp? But the music is too dreamy for him. I dunno. No: Charles Lloyd!!! I have heard this type of thing too often ..... the thrill is gone ..... but they do this very well, of course,and he has his story to tell, and it's true. Just not my taste.No, wrong track choosen, no Lloyd and no Shepp. And yes, it is a nice story. This was a CD with some dust on the case.... Sometimes it is not that bad for the collection to do a BFT !
Track 5: Oh - this is from that Latin big band from the country where nobody would look for such a thing? Hehe .... nice version of Jaco's tune! They're in clave, that's for sure! Very nice bass trombone - or is this tuba?Yes, i was sure you would recognize this, we had some of this in one of our listening-evenings ! As you recognized the tune.... what is the remarkable thing in this version ? And it is a Tuba not a bass-trombone.
Track 6: One more Oh!!! I have this legendary LP. Not quite a night in Tunisia. Great stuff! Wild!Yes, not quite a night in Tunesia
As you have this record.... you can imagine, why this is here ... and why it has track #6 Track 7: I was waiting for this guy to appear! Unmistakeable sound, lots of overdubbing. This was a very nice surprise when you played this to me, as I'm not a fan of him, but this is an excellent album!You had this CD some months ago to listen to it. But it is not overdubbing ! It is a bit different. He performed this stuff in a concert.
Track 8: Is this the multi-bass band CD you bought in Vienna? Somewhat lightweight, but the sound is what counts! I took a lightweight-take, thats right. Track 9: The percussion is a little nervous for my taste, and the flutist's approach and intonation too "classical". I was kind of surprised this developped into a big band track. The way the low horns lead the ensemble is what like the best about this.He.. he.. you allready know, who this is
Track 10: Electric oud funk? Sounds pretty much like an oriental band, but then the bass sounds like European player. Don't know what to think of this: The darbouka player hits the "doum" so hard during his break that you can't hear the sound any more, and the conga player for certain is oriental, ,judging from his approach. Is the bassist the leader here. For European oriental jazz it is quite nice, but for an oriental band I would say they stray too far from their culture - but you know I'm very critical about these things .....Hmmmm, it is not a oriental band, but there are several different musicians in this, from different countries and cultures. The bassist is the Leader here, thats right. Hey... it is Mr. Bassman BFT
The CD of this gentleman is sometimes difficult: a bit too much crowd playing together and it is hard to listen to this stuff, because it it that complex and "full". But there exist other works, too ... with a smaller crowd. But interesting, isn't it ? Track 11: Lots of blue danubian basses here .....
humor does belong in music! Shroum shroum! This has me grinning all the way through!We had this in one of our first listening-evenings.... Well... it is a hommage to an instrument.... and the title of this tune states this perfect... now... guess or search
Track 12: This should be Jaco or at least one of his tunes - wasn't there some Jaco tribute involving several bassists? Sounds like this! Cobham-like runs over the toms! Or is this from one of the Havana Jam albums? Alphonso Johnson rather than Jaco?Oh-oh! ... step by step.... not a Jaco tune.... Not a tribute... I know, what you mean, but not this one. Cobham-likes.... Cobham or not.... make a decision .... not Havana Jam .... and now... Alphonso or Jaco ??
Track 13: The late King Albert, unmistakeably. One his original tunes. Some of the drum licks sound a lot like Elvin, but some and the sound so not. A wild guess would be his record with Jaco and Alphonze Mouzon - I have to admit I never heard much of it.Somewhat difficult to tell, well it is AM indeed, but not the late one.... and your wild guesses are not that bad.
Track 14: I love bass clarinet so much, I like this although I find the music a little lightweight. That treble register bass sound I know from somewhere ..... Two basses here, a big fiddle and a bass guitar. Not bad! Interestingly done. I like this much better than I thought I would!Ohhhh, i like BFT
Well, the original tune is a pop-music-classic, maybe that causes the lightweight-factor. Well.... i think you have heard this bass-player live ( maybe an error, but i think you have seen him... ).Track 15: Hahaha!!! Wild! The electric bass comunion! I really dig this kind of stuff! No idea who it is, though. I think, you know, why this tune is in here, we talked about the special theme some weeks ago
Track 16: Verrrrry nice closer! Not Weberhard? I love those harmonics and all! Very tongue-in-cheek!Not weberhard !
Great job, Buddy!!!!
Thanks! Now it's time for a short sleep... tomorrow we will be on the road....
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ahhhhh, blind and deaf
It's the intro to that "Adams universe" and you can find it row seven box 3 in my CD collection...
it's one of those tunes you know you've heard but you cannot link it to the album you have in your collection.
Cheers, Tjobbe
I know this syndrom very well. And now i want to add, why this is in here... because i have the #42 BFT!!!... it was obvious to take a track from the "hitchhikers guide to the universe"... the track "deep thought" (The source of "42") was much too long, so i decided, "Arthur Dent" will do it. For all the people, not knowing Douglas Adams and his nice work, it is a bit difficult to follow, maybe i will add a short version in the answer-thread.
with regards
Mr. Bassman
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Gil Evans
?... just returned from the gig this evening... and risked an eye before i go to bed... ahhhh ! some work to do
Yes, Gil Evans. I was somewhat surprised, that he worked on this tune, but i don't have another recording, is there one published ? MG stated in the booklet, that he only adapted it for this project.
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Mr. Bassman
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I wonder if the arranger is Ernie Fields Jr. His father ran an important territory band in the '30s and had a big hit with "In the mood" in 1960. Ernie Jr has been doing some work with Fred Wesley in Europe.
MG
No, it is not Ernie Fields jr. The person is not that connected to this kind of stuff. So i was surprised, when i read it in the booklet. Giving a clue... the person worked some times ago with a trumpet player and together they realized some fine stuff (well... to me). The arranger is well-known and released a lot using his own name....
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Mr. Bassman
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Okay, it's the central commentator again....
try to fill the gaps laterOkay. I will add mine seperately
track #1: Slim&Slam....track #4: I know that the tune sounds familiar, but what it reminds me of is something I heard on film or TV ...not that I find any unique sounding instrumentalist recognizable.No TV or film... but it sounds a bit pictoral
Track #5: Paquito d'Rivera ?Not that easy... no, but can you recognize the tune ? Nobody recognizes this one... hmmm...
Track #6:no clue...., Turkish tuned In this case... not turkishtrack #7: ECM...Weber would be my first guess... well guessed
track #8: here as well.. I should know that tune in a different interpretationReally ? This would be a surprise to me, but it could be, theoretically. Maybe it sounds familiar, because the composer had something in mind.
track #11 eine kleine Nachtmusik....must be an Austrian who doesn't like to celebrate his birthday (Ups ...was the Waltzer Strauss) Great idea, an anti-birthday-celebration tune. No Mozart, surely. Strauss has some great connection to this. But the tune is a hommage to an instrument.....Track #12: Some Sting live recording ????If i remember that right... Sting was still connected somewhat to Eberhard Schöner in those days, Police was still not in sight
But it is a live recording, any idea ?Track #13: sounds pretty much like Weather report..a Jaco live bootleg ? (mixed the track number somewhat)Uhhhh, not a bootleg at all !!! A famous recording, actually life. And
it is JP !Track#16: Ihr Kinderlein...Süßer die Glocken nie klingen should be Mr Ilg again (have you mixed that ??? mine is skipping somewhat, maybe my player cannot properly read all data)No Mr. Ilg at all. And... not the right title
You like that ?I have done no mixing, i adapted only some output-levels of a few tunes. It sounded a bit weired... the Ballad loud and the high-energy-tune was somewhat soft. But nothing else, no compressor etc. Sorry about the skipping, i burnt it at low speed, but i hadn't tested all CDs.
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Mr. Bassman
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Hi King Ubu! Thanks for the nice statements
Okay, here are the coments, again with the blue-letter-quote-system : #1 nice little opener - setting the theme? This would be too simple ... in a secret way, yes...#2 Everything I Got Belongs to You - a nice old-fashioned arrangement with horn backings. Like the singer a lot, somewhere close to the songbirds but with a heavier touch in the voice, very nice! Sounds like from the 50s? Very nice, although the backings get a bit tiring after a while... don't dare to mention any names...Yes, the songtitle is correct. The recording is from the 50s - 1956 exactly. The singer is great, I like her very much. The bass-player is mentioned in her text... and this gives you a clue, why this is a very special tune for the bass.
#3 That's one of those stiff Glenn Miller riffs, no? The growling brass is cool and the beat is decidedly dry and funky. Not to put this down, but it sounds like something any kind of professional big band could do... nice, but lightweight fun.Well, GM and his band played that tune, but it was written not by GM. The arranger is still not unveiled. Oh well, I think they are a professional bigband, but to me, I am not that involved in BigBands, they sound great . The lightweight-fun-Factor is on a certain level here, but there is a lot of seriosity in it. Maybe it is the GM-Factor ??? But, okay... it's not Giant steps
#4 A very, very nice combination, bass & baritone sax! Tune sounds familiar... a bit tame, bari could try a bit more, soundwise, but it's nice! A combination I'd like to hear more often, for sure!Yes, this track is really a rare thing to be found. A fine tune, well played and a superb recording, to my ears.
#5 Bass sound is pretty ugly, gives this away as a retro recording (prob. by older guys, thus retro is unfair...) of much more recent vintage than it is, stylistically... tenor is pretty nice, drummer I don't like a lot - pretty clichéd bop fillings, all stuff you can hear much livlier and done in a more swinging way on recordings of all the great bop drummers (Max, Philly Joe...).The sound also keeps me from enjoying the bass solo a lot, sorry.
Tenor is the only thing I really like here... the tune sounds familiar, too, but as usual I can't pin it down...
Oh-oh... You can't imagine, who they are ? Okay, the sound is not very well, the bass-player uses magnetic pickups on his doublebass, the recording sounds in the way they sound in reality. I can confirm this, because i listened to them in those days.... back in the 80s. They were not that old on the recording day. Well, the drummer is a case of his own.... The bass-player wrote this tune, I am sure, that this tune is not that familiar. Another info to the sound.... the label is well-known for high-class-recording. There is al least another take in the BFT from that label. But in this case, i can get over this sound, i like this tune anyway, but i can understand, that there will be much more pleasure, if the bass-player had used some other amplification... and... the drummer .... is a case on his own. The Tenor-player is a fine musician, i forgot to mention that, and the piano-player a fine accompanist, isn't he ? #6 Sounds like it could be a Dave Brubeck tune... but the rhythm is even more restrained, Wright would swing in an earthier way and Morello would play a bit more... but this drummer starts building some and gets quite good, too! Tenor is of the "inside" kind of Trane followers, not bad at all, but sound's a bit thin.Not a bad performance at all, but maybe a bit long?
Interesting, Dave Brubeck is always the first name to be mentioned, when there is an uneven rhythm beside the 3..., but not in this case.
#7 Post Bill Evans piano trio? Bass solo is good, but in the intro/theme it's too "glibberish" for my taste...Yes, a post Bill Evans-Trio, i like the "glibberish" - description, but it is a fine balladesk tune. It is a debut-album...
#8 Now we're talkin'! I like this one a lot! Swings quite some, even though there's no drummer. Nice vibes, not sure who, but either some mainstream chap (Hampton) or a rather modest modern one (Charles?). Very nice tenor here! Out of the Hawk bag, but much softer... Lucky T? Long time I played any of his stuff... hm, thinking of Lucky would make Bags the obvious choice, but if that's bag he's quite laidback, not to say restrained! Not Bags & Lucky, no... nice trombone/tenor shout chorus! Nice how at the very end the trombone gets a bit dirty and a wee tiny bit out of line, compared to the very tight surroundings.I am really happy about that enthusiastic statements. One can hear, that there must be a lot of happyness and fun during the record-session. The tune is a hommage to the "old days" if you like. Well, the vibe-ist is noone you have mentioned, but... he likes his Hampton. Weeeelllll, now the big surprise... Tenor is the same musician on #5
... Yes the ending is a kind of a little hurricane, as they blow nicely together. If you would know, who this is, you would be more polite to his dirtyness ... another info... it is indeed the same label as #5 ! #9 Fairly recent recording, not bad, tenor has some nice small sonic inflections, but alltogether this doesn't really convince me.okay, got your point of view.
#10 I love this kind of funk with a real double bass... beats are sort of drum'n'bass-like... a bit of a pastiche, but fun! well, what about the violin-player ? You know the tune ? I am nearly sure, you could know this.#11 This one grows on me... I hit the repeat button a few time because I drifted off, but I begin to like it! The guitar reminds me of some of the tunes on Keziah Jones' great blue-cover album (the blufunk one, before he turned to doing harder stuff).#12 Another post-Evans trio... nice one.
Yes, it is a post-Evans-Trio. The whole CD is nice, i can recommend this, if you like that.
#13 More funky stuff. The combination of sax/trombone is a good one, and too rarely heard, I think. Ray Anderson? Sounds definitely familiar... one of my favourite cuts, with its lazy funky groove!No Anderson on this. Yes, a great band and a nice recording, too. What is your impression about where do they come from ? I can imagine, that there is more stuff played by these musicians, that you will like!
#14 More groovy stuff, good, but not the most involving... not sure if the soprano amounts to much, but I like it, even if it may just be noodling around...Okay, not all musicians are great involvers every day, and sometimes there is some noodling
But it is not on the worse side. Not a great work, but nice, indeed. To which place(country) would you put them ?#15 Is that from Dieter Ilg's folk songs album? I heard another tune from it elsewhere when it came out in the 90s, very nice. Would be a disc to get, eventually! Very nice closer!No, this track is not from Ilg.... but there is one in the BFT
But back to this tune, it is a nice closer and the song is quite familiar... but it is not a folk-tune, beside it sounds like. And i agree, this is a nice closer for the CD#1with regards
Mr. Bassman
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New update on the receiving ... there are still 5 on the way !
...there are still 5 packages missing
Stefan Wood
chris
Eloe Omoe
Hardbopjazz
Martyjazz
have not responded yet. I hope the ministers or chairmen of all mail-services will read this, to hurry up a bit ! These honest people are waiting for their packages ! Let the whip snap and encourage the horses in front of your mail-service coaches !!! (.. or should i say: "Let the snails jump !" ??
refering to "snailmail" )with regards
Mr. Bassman
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didn't notice anybody
thoroughly selected tracks combining a strong even compilaton
thanks!
Andrew
Thank you, Andrew. When i listened to some of the BFT-CDs i had the same symptoms. But, when the answers were given, there was always the "clap-on-forehead"-Syndrom, too. Sometimes i possessed the recording by myself but couldn't remember it. But, as you stated, you have fun when you listen to the compilation, and that is a real main aim in BFT (to me). And we all get some new ideas about one of our favourite things !
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Mr. Bassman
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... here are the remarks to Nate's follow-up remarks to #10-16:
10: hm... one of those world-music/fusiony things. I guess it just sounds too clean & bright for me, though it certainly kept me guessing (the first bass feature with spacey swells & swirls of accordion in particular, plus the bagpipe feature near the end).Yes, there are some incredients of world-music in this cooking. Some critics had a similar impression on this and there was a bit of disappointment, but there were some more enthusiastic critics, too. And a Bass-player has sometimes "weird ears"
I liked this one. But, there are other recordings, maybe they will be more to your enjoyment. 11: Well, no prizes for recognizing the tune! More bass-centric music....The tune is inspired of some classical music... and a hommage to an instrument
12: This is one of those "good for what it is tracks" in a mode that I'm basically not interested in. Hm, two electric bassists....... at first a big grin
, and the assurement, that this tune refers to the special theme. But there is only one bass-player... and it is a live recording, so... no overdubs.13: Well this is a familiar track--it's of course the great AM with Jaco &... I forget who the drummer is, is it Mouzon? I have this on the MPS threefer; here's the original album. I think this track is "Zores Mores". What can I say: classic music. but it's another track ...., have another try 14: Pleasantly mellow but I keep waiting for the players to actually do something other than flipflop between two chords.... It's only when the bass clarinettist steps outside of the key after the 3 minute mark that anything leaps out at me. I take it that multiple-bass combos are a theme of this BFT...Well, the tune has a very simple chord-progression and the performers of this one try to catch that impression. Okay, i have to give hint here.... it is one bass-player here. It is a studio recording and you can imagine... if this is only one bass-player, he did some overdubs. But who is it ? BTW, the song was recognized some posts ago
. The bass-clarinet-solo is nice, indeed ! ... and i know, who this is ... some words to the special theme.... as this is only one bass-player, the theme must be something different...
15: They're definitely pushing it by saying they're "the finest band in town" (one wonders how many actual musicians rather than sequencers participated anyway), but this cheesy mangling of rhythm changes at least made me smile.
Actually, they don't exist any more, and... there is only a drum-machine for BD, HH and crashes, the snare is played by hand from the musician !!!! And a bit overdubs, but they have performed that live (... beside this... i missed the concert...
, but was this a shame ??? ... okay it would have been some kind of a party than a serious concert).16: And a merry Xmas to you! -- Nice to hear an imaginatively reharmonized version of this, usually one of the dullest of Xmas tunes.Ah, another lover of this version of that specific tune, I'm not alone.
and some additional things, to this song,... we (my wife, to be precise) have a version of this tune in finnish, sung by a bass-baritone classical singer accompanied by a church-organ with simple register (no wall of sound). This version is quite okay, not that sweet than other interpretations. Well, i selected this tune because it was the shortest on this recording and... next BFT is in December....
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Mr. Bassman
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Ah, Andrew "dutchmanx" entered his list. Thank you for the nice words and i can see, that you enjoy to listen to the discs. Now, here are my remarks:
1 kinda prologue I guess
You can follow the discussion thread here... you can see, it is unveiled, but your impression is absolutely right, it is a opener
. How do you like this stuff from the older days ?2 when the intro stops... what happens after that ? Can you add some words ?
3 my music4 my music give me more!
That is interesting, because these two are somewhat different. Maybe you can add some more words? If you have the time...6 I can leave without it Well, in the old days of world music there was a lot of "try-and-error" 7 some ECM stuff (let me guess - Eberhard Weber on bass?)Ahhhh !
I can assure you, it is EW! Do you know the recording or was it the impression during the listening-session ? And it is an ECM-work. Now, the album is still unmentioned. Need some homework ??? 
11 some classics - OK but doesn't fit wellokay, accepted.
14 main theme is Police-Walking on the Moon - original is much better Yeah, another credit-point for you, the title is walking on the moon, but i like this one much more. That doesn't mean, that the police version is bad (well, for my ears ).15 I can leave without itI can understand, but why is this tune in the BFT ? any guesses or ideas ? (to this question... tracks 12-16 belong to the same theme).
to the "ok"-remarks i can only say "thats fine" as it seems that you listen to that tunes with a good quantity of enjoying it.
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Mr. Bassman
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At first, MG, thank you very much for this research-work! I'm not that involved into discographic work, but this solves the problem of a first recording of "FFF". This was new for me, that the so-called official first recording was a month later and the one in this compilation delivers the "real" first recording of this tune.
OK, discog fired up. Here are the results (a few years out of date, so they don't reflect the album from which you took the BFT track). I've cut out the personnel details
New York, January 19, 1938
22318-2 The flat foot floogie (unissued) Voc
22319-2 Chinatown, my Chinatown -
22320-2 That's what you call romance -
This is the one you put on the BFT.
Yes, , the first two tracks are in that package. They added a recording No. MX 22321-1 "Oh, Lady be good" from same date and place, "that's what you call romance is not in that compilation.
Interesting that Vocalion issued the other two songs first. They must have thought they had greater commercial potential.
Maybe the pronounciation of "Floogie" during the Februar recording was more precise, just a guess, i can't check that, becouse i don't have that Februar recording (... the so-called original Vocalise release).
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Mr. Bassman
Bob Mintzer Big Band
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For a small sidestep
.... The "Lightnin'" from Klaus Weiss was an outtake in BFT #42.... but I can recommend this, too.... in case of the Mintzer BigBand-recordings. I was not thinking that far, when i noticed this thread.
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Mr. Bassman