RDK Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 I guess my point is this....we accept that there ARE new "standards" being written in the pop field when it comes to our favorite jazz players playing them....Bjork, Coldplay, Radiohead, come to mind as all being overdone by the Berkley crowd (now replacing the overdone Stevie Wonder for jazzers). Why not Spandau Ballet, Billy Idol or Van Halen...or are those guys considered too, too, too mainstream to have not been considered. Miles Davis didn't think so. ...and no, I CAN'T believe I'm defending this crap at all... ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 It's kitsch, OK? Kitsch! KITSCH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 (edited) I think this recording is at a much higher level than the others you compare it to. O.K...take away the Nirvana song which is obviously a mistake...but there's some surprising stuff that's obviously been scrutinized as to it's remaked-ness, so to speak. Van Halen's "Jump" really kicks. Rem's "Everybody Hurts",....and others. Hey, I don't like Paul Anka's singing...it's schmalzy...he sucks. But the arrangers, musicians and recording engineers did a good job and some of the songs actually work. I guess my point is this....we accept that there ARE new "standards" being written in the pop field when it comes to our favorite jazz players playing them....Bjork, Coldplay, Radiohead, come to mind as all being overdone by the Berkley crowd (now replacing the overdone Stevie Wonder for jazzers). Why not Spandau Ballet, Billy Idol or Van Halen...or are those guys considered too, too, too mainstream to have not been considered. Miles Davis didn't think so. ...and no, I CAN'T believe I'm defending this crap at all... ← It's "schmaltzy," OK? Schmaltzy! And Berklee, no? BERKLEE! (I'm such a schmuck). Edited August 12, 2005 by Kalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Stream Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I think this recording is at a much higher level than the others you compare it to. O.K...take away the Nirvana song which is obviously a mistake...but there's some surprising stuff that's obviously been scrutinized as to it's remaked-ness, so to speak. Van Halen's "Jump" really kicks. Rem's "Everybody Hurts",....and others. Hey, I don't like Paul Anka's singing...it's schmalzy...he sucks. But the arrangers, musicians and recording engineers did a good job and some of the songs actually work. I guess my point is this....we accept that there ARE new "standards" being written in the pop field when it comes to our favorite jazz players playing them....Bjork, Coldplay, Radiohead, come to mind as all being overdone by the Berkley crowd (now replacing the overdone Stevie Wonder for jazzers). Why not Spandau Ballet, Billy Idol or Van Halen...or are those guys considered too, too, too mainstream to have not been considered. Miles Davis didn't think so. ...and no, I CAN'T believe I'm defending this crap at all... ← It's "schmaltzy," OK? Schmaltzy! And Berklee, no? BERKLEE! (I'm such a schmuck). ← Agreed...I'm the world's WORST speller.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe M Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 John Clayton's arrangement of Smells Like Teen Spirit swings hard. Could do without the lyrics though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randissimo Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I listened to about 5 minutes of the Fresh Air show yesterday and dumped it. Tuned in today and about a half hour in Terry announced "part two" of the Anka interview. I turned the radio off. He sounded like the most egocentric a-hole on earth the first few minutes of the first day. What was she thinking! If that was "the point" it backfired for me. ← How do we get Organissimo on Fresh Air? Or any NPR show for that matter?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rat Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I listened to about 5 minutes of the Fresh Air show yesterday and dumped it. Tuned in today and about a half hour in Terry announced "part two" of the Anka interview. I turned the radio off. He sounded like the most egocentric a-hole on earth the first few minutes of the first day. What was she thinking! If that was "the point" it backfired for me. ← How do we get Organissimo on Fresh Air? Or any NPR show for that matter?? ← Hmmmmm. . . . Get Larry Bell to sing "Nothing But Flowers" with you (and 101 strings). --eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randissimo Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Maybe this belongs in another topic.... Just asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randissimo Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I listened to about 5 minutes of the Fresh Air show yesterday and dumped it. Tuned in today and about a half hour in Terry announced "part two" of the Anka interview. I turned the radio off. He sounded like the most egocentric a-hole on earth the first few minutes of the first day. What was she thinking! If that was "the point" it backfired for me. ← How do we get Organissimo on Fresh Air? Or any NPR show for that matter?? ← Hmmmmm. . . . Get Larry Bell to sing "Nothing But Flowers" with you (and 101 strings). --eric ← That's funny !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I listened to about 5 minutes of the Fresh Air show yesterday and dumped it. Tuned in today and about a half hour in Terry announced "part two" of the Anka interview. I turned the radio off. He sounded like the most egocentric a-hole on earth the first few minutes of the first day. What was she thinking! If that was "the point" it backfired for me. ← How do we get Organissimo on Fresh Air? Or any NPR show for that matter?? ← You have to become a more egocentric a-hole than Paul Anka, Randy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 (edited) How do we get Organissimo on Fresh Air? Or any NPR show for that matter?? ← Try writing a song called "Terry Gross." Edited August 18, 2005 by alankin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I think this recording is at a much higher level than the others you compare it to. O.K...take away the Nirvana song which is obviously a mistake...but there's some surprising stuff that's obviously been scrutinized as to it's remaked-ness, so to speak. Van Halen's "Jump" really kicks. Rem's "Everybody Hurts",....and others. Hey, I don't like Paul Anka's singing...it's schmalzy...he sucks. But the arrangers, musicians and recording engineers did a good job and some of the songs actually work. [...] ...and no, I CAN'T believe I'm defending this crap at all... ← Maybe they should release a Music Minus One version, dropping the vocals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Twizzle Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Check Mr. Personality out here The guys get shirts.... ← Here's Anka's reaction to the "The guys get shirts" recording: Anka: That was recorded 15 years ago by a real snake that we fired. We had a nice big moment on Howard Stern, where he played the tape and he absolutely agreed with it. He said "I've done that. I do that." And everybody does. I think any guy running a company gets the whole point of that tape. I'm a real stickler for detail, and I have a real strong responsibility to my audience. When I'm up on that stage, anything I do has to be as perfect as possible for the consumer and for whomever. I don't just go to work and take the check and run. What happened there was there were a lot of mistakes in the band, in the sense that we'd rehearsed it one way, and we'd have a cutoff, where everybody has to end together. The other thing was that we'd spent a lot of money getting guys dressed so there was uniformity. And the guys just dropped the ball. You know, a lot of musicians—some of them are drinkers, some of them are doing dope and what have you, and you learn that, you know, later in the gig. It's like hiring people—the résumés are one thing, and everybody's on their best behavior, but until you get somewhere into the voyage and you realize you've got some bad apples in there, that's when you have to deal with it. It's a funny tape; that's me; I'm that way. People don't toe the line, they're out. http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2005/08/it...e_a_tough.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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