Michael Fitzgerald Posted September 7, 2005 Report Posted September 7, 2005 What can you say when the artist's own website has this kind of misinformation? The only useful thing I can think is to have a "count the errors" contest. http://www.tonyscott.it/discography.htm ========================================== # 015 Recording date: Live concert recording 1959, unknown month and day - NYC, USA unknown place TONY SCOTT QUARTET Producer: Tony Scott Engeneer: Tony Scott O riginal: Signature SM(S)600 - Tony Scott: Gypsy Tony Scott (cl, bar), Mundell Lowe (g), Jimmy Garrison (b), Pete LaRocca (d) 01 - It’s a small world (I. Burke/ J.VanHeusen) 7.52 02 - Everything’s coming up roses (R.Carpenter) 6.51 03 - I had a dream (V.Duke/ I.Gershwin) 3.30 04 - Some people (Tony Scott) 8.48 05 - Little lamb (take 1-ballad) (E.Burnett/ G.A.Norton) 12.15 06 - Little lamb (take 2-rhytm) (N.Washington/ V.Young) 10.00 07 - You’ll never get away (G.DeDaul/ P.Johnston/ D.Raye) 8.55 08 - Cow song (J.Gillespie/F.Papparelli) 8.20 09 - together wherever we go (J. Garrison) 14.27 10 - Rose’s town 1-10 Signature SM(S 6001 Gypsy -.LP (USA) 1959 ------ FSR 574 Unknown Titles =============================================== Truth is, there's an error on EVERY single tune. One of the musician's names is misspelled. There are wrong tune titles. One of the issue numbers is wrong. Even the mistakes have mistakes!!!! Perhaps someone who owns this one can confirm - or more likely refute - that it's a "live concert recording". I gotta think that the producer and "engeneer" are incorrect too. What is really amazing is that in addition to copying errors from other sources, someone MADE UP composers. Those weren't copied wrong, confused by identical titles, someone just plain MADE UP wrong details. And honestly, the correct composer credits are not difficult at all. There's only ONE title that is even possibly not a standard part of the hit show "Gypsy" by Jule Styne & Stephen Sondheim ("I Had A Dream" - which is a theme from the show, not a song - so *maybe* an "impression" by Scott and his buddies). Mike P.S. - note the timings. In the late 1950s, a single 12" 33 1/3 LP with a total playing time of.....over 80 minutes? Quote
Stereojack Posted September 8, 2005 Report Posted September 8, 2005 What can you say when the artist's own website has this kind of misinformation? # 015 Recording date: Live concert recording 1959, unknown month and day - NYC, USA unknown place TONY SCOTT QUARTET Producer: Tony Scott Engeneer: Tony Scott O riginal: Signature SM(S)600 - Tony Scott: Gypsy Tony Scott (cl, bar), Mundell Lowe (g), Jimmy Garrison (b), Pete LaRocca (d) 01 - It’s a small world (I. Burke/ J.VanHeusen) 7.52 02 - Everything’s coming up roses (R.Carpenter) 6.51 03 - I had a dream (V.Duke/ I.Gershwin) 3.30 04 - Some people (Tony Scott) 8.48 05 - Little lamb (take 1-ballad) (E.Burnett/ G.A.Norton) 12.15 06 - Little lamb (take 2-rhytm) (N.Washington/ V.Young) 10.00 07 - You’ll never get away (G.DeDaul/ P.Johnston/ D.Raye) 8.55 08 - Cow song (J.Gillespie/F.Papparelli) 8.20 09 - together wherever we go (J. Garrison) 14.27 10 - Rose’s town 1-10 Signature SM(S 6001 Gypsy -.LP (USA) 1959 ------ FSR 574 Unknown Titles OK, I think I've got it sorted out. The discographer has garbled the information between two different sessions. The Gypsy session is not live, it is a studio recording, and the only information we have as to a recording date is the year 1959, NYC. I assume that this was recorded at a studio in New York, and probably not engineered by Scott. Although a producer is not credited, my guess would be Bob Thiele, who oversaw most of the Signature sessions. All of the songs are written by Jule Styne and Stephen Sondheim. FSR 574 is the catalog number of the Fresh Sounds reissue. My copy does not give timings, but I can tell you where these timings come from. The correct titles and playing order are: I Had a Dream Some People Small World Little Lamb (ballad) Little Lamb (rhythm) You'll Never Get Away From Me Cow Song Everything's Coming Up Roses Together Wherever We Go Rose's Turn All of the composers and all but the first two timings you have actually belong to the Muse LP's "Golden Moments" (Muse 5230) and "I'll Remember" (Muse 5266), recorded live by Tony Scott on August 1 & 9, 1959 at the Showplace, NYC, and released in 1982 and 1984 respectively. The sound quality is that of a good amateur recording. The two albums were also issued on 32Jazz 32136. Golden Moments Like Someone In Love (Burke-Van Heusen) 5:35 Walkin' (Carpenter) 12:26 I Can't Get Started (Duke-Gershwin) 3:30 Free and Easy Blues (Scott) 8:48 My Melancholy Baby (Burnett-Norton) 12:15 I'll Remember Stella By Starlight (Young-Washington) 10:00 I'll Remember April (DePaul-Johnston-Raye) 8:55 Night In Tunisia (Gillespie-Paparelli) 8:20 Garrison's Raiders (Garrison) 14:27 Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted September 8, 2005 Author Report Posted September 8, 2005 Excellent catch, Jack. That's the next item in the discography. It still has some problems, but...... I can only assume that "copy-and-paste" was the cause of the confusion. But still some sloppiness (SM(S)600 vs. 6001) and the dreaded thought of "It's A Small World" (after all) vs. "Small World" (isn't it?) - which is wrong in Jepsen, Bruyninckx, and Lord too. The "Rose's Town" error comes from Jepsen, who also skips the second "Little Lamb". 'twould be nice if between 1964 when that volume of Jepsen came out and today in 2005 there could be some progress.... Mike Quote
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